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fkl

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  • jojee2k6 said:
    Yes Thanks @fkl, I really appreciate your valuable advice, and sorry as I also got confused after reading various opinions on it.

    OK so One PCC I can get from my home town for entire period since 18th birthday till now, and also my CNIC (Pakistani ID Card and Passport Record contain both present and permanent address of my home-town).

    Now, Please advice me what I should do regarding Address history in EE profile, and for PCC, below is my detailed scenario:

    • 2005-2008: Karachi (was doing Job, not getting points for that job, but will mention that job in personal history. also no record on my CNIC and passport about that address in Karachi)...Should I mention it in my Address History in EE Profile?
    • 2008-2012: Islamabad (pursued M.Phill and Job from there, I will gain points for that job but still no record of that address in my CNIC and passport. Should I mention it in my Address History in EE Profile?
    • Now should I get one PCC only from my home-town, covering one address? as People here telling me, PCC is being issued city-based, and not covers multiple addresses. So, What I am supposed to do?

    As in Address History, I would be mentioning above addresses, though no record on my CNIC and passport about those addresses, as always present and permanent are of home-town. But, if I mention all these addresses, then PCC would contain only one address (i.e. my hometown).

    Sorry again, It seems this all is messed up now, and I really stressed now, same situation with my wife, she also had been to multiple cities (education/job, etc), now what you advice after realizing my scenario...

    Guys, pls. advice.
You are most welcome. You should keep your home town address and claim this was always your permanent address and put this in your address history (for entire period since the age of 18 to date) and only submit PCC from here.

Just don't put karachi and Islamabad in address history but then not submitting PCC from there

Although there have been posts in the past here where people say this should still be fine (i.e. write all cities in address history but submit a single PCC from home town only), i remember others having issues with it, so i wont take a chance.

People do above all the time (i and many close friends did the same few years ago, to avoid pains of getting PCC from each city (and even multiple Police stations with in a single city. I had lived at 5 different addresses in Lahore and at least 3 different ones in Karachi over the course of 15 years or so. So it was close to impossible to do that from every location)
 

jojee2k6

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fkl said:

  • You are most welcome. You should keep your home town address and claim this was always your permanent address and put this in your address history (for entire period since the age of 18 to date) and only submit PCC from here.

    Just don't put karachi and Islamabad in address history but then not submitting PCC from there

    Although there have been posts in the past here where people say this should still be fine (i.e. write all cities in address history but submit a single PCC from home town only), i remember others having issues with it, so i wont take a chance.

    People do above all the time (i and many close friends did the same few years ago, to avoid pains of getting PCC from each city (and even multiple Police stations with in a single city. I had lived at 5 different addresses in Lahore and at least 3 different ones in Karachi over the course of 15 years or so. So it was close to impossible to do that from every location)


  • That's really quite comforting to know about it, I had also thought about it. Well, just to further highlight and confirm:

    - on My CNIC and passport, both permanent & present addresses have been of my home-town (i.e. Multan).
    So, if I don't mention in 'address history' Karachi (job exp.without claiming points, but in personal history) & Islamabad (education+job exp. with claiming points), then that's the point which troubling me: "CIC or Visa Officers" will check my education and job experience is from KHI & ISB, yet PCC is only from Multan and Address history contains only Multan address, not others, why not applicant mentioned KHI & ISB addresses in address history though completed studies and jobs from there.

    - For my wife, CNIC present address is KHI and Permanent Address is Multan (as of mine). So, in her case, which address I should maintain ONLY, in her address history, and from which city I should get PCC (khi or mux)?? Or I maintain as well for her the same MUX address, as our current address is abroad since we r living out of pakistan?

    Sorry, If bothering you...but I got pretty messed up here.
 

jojee2k6

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  • jojee2k6 said:
    That's really quite comforting to know about it, I had also thought about it. Well, just to further highlight and confirm:

    - on My CNIC and passport, both permanent & present addresses have been of my home-town (i.e. Multan).
    So, if I don't mention in 'address history' Karachi (job exp.without claiming points, but in personal history) & Islamabad (education+job exp. with claiming points), then that's the point which troubling me: "CIC or Visa Officers" will check my education and job experience is from KHI & ISB, yet PCC is only from Multan and Address history contains only Multan address, not others, why not applicant mentioned KHI & ISB addresses in address history though completed studies and jobs from there.

    - For my wife, CNIC present address is KHI and Permanent Address is Multan (as of mine). So, in her case, which address I should maintain ONLY, in her address history, and from which city I should get PCC (khi or mux)?? Or I maintain as well for her the same MUX address, as our current address is abroad since we r living out of pakistan?

    Sorry, If bothering you...but I got pretty messed up here.
@fkl, please assist in above situation...or other seniors ,,,
 

fkl

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    jojee2k6 said:
    That's really quite comforting to know about it, I had also thought about it. Well, just to further highlight and confirm:

    - on My CNIC and passport, both permanent & present addresses have been of my home-town (i.e. Multan).
    So, if I don't mention in 'address history' Karachi (job exp.without claiming points, but in personal history) & Islamabad (education+job exp. with claiming points), then that's the point which troubling me: "CIC or Visa Officers" will check my education and job experience is from KHI & ISB, yet PCC is only from Multan and Address history contains only Multan address, not others, why not applicant mentioned KHI & ISB addresses in address history though completed studies and jobs from there.

    Yes, this is what countless others (including myself) have done. CIC doesn't really go that deep comparing cities in my opinion as long as it is the same country AND THE ENTIRE period since the age of 18 is covered. Technically you might have kept residence still some where did a distant learning program or you might have been commuting weekly, thats just a make up answer or the employer or institution allowed remote work / distant learning. If CIC goes that deep, they would have to account for all the above possibilities, which they certainly don't.



    - For my wife, CNIC present address is KHI and Permanent Address is Multan (as of mine). So, in her case, which address I should maintain ONLY, in her address history, and from which city I should get PCC (khi or mux)?? Or I maintain as well for her the same MUX address, as our current address is abroad since we r living out of pakistan?

    I assume you are submitting NIC as part of your application, so i suggest getting PCC for this one from Karachi too (only because her NIC shows that). From what i understand, your spouse's period of living in Karachi was before your marriage since it doesn't make sense that only her NIC was updated in that time if you were married.


    Sorry, If bothering you...but I got pretty messed up here.
 

Siddiquis

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Dear All,

I understand i am in a serious problem, in my ECA (from CES) "form" for my post graduate studies (Masters) i had written the tenure from July 2011 to Dec 2013 (two and a half years). This is due to the reason that i was awarded the degree in 2014, and i was not sure about the exact tenure of my studies.

Now this tenure overlaps with my employment in Qatar.

My questions are;

If i change the dates in eAPR they can ask CES for the form i submitted in which the aforementioned tenure is written ..

However the ECA i received from CES is for two years only (i mean i can change the dates, if they dont ask CES about my form)


Please help!
 

jojee2k6

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fkl said:


  • @fkl, many many thanks for detailed elaboration and making it easy for me, please check my inline responses in red:

    Yes, this is what countless others (including myself) have done. CIC doesn't really go that deep comparing cities in my opinion as long as it is the same country AND THE ENTIRE period since the age of 18 is covered. Technically you might have kept residence still some where did a distant learning program or you might have been commuting weekly, thats just a make up answer or the employer or institution allowed remote work / distant learning. If CIC goes that deep, they would have to account for all the above possibilities, which they certainly don't.
    Perfect, that makes sense, and now I am very clear, so I will get PCC from multan covering period since 18th birthday till now, and will not mention any ISB, KHI address, as passport/CNIC reflects both same present and permanent address i.e. of Multan. Great, thanks you really made it easy for me.
    I assume you are submitting NIC as part of your application, so i suggest getting PCC for this one from Karachi too (only because her NIC shows that). From what i understand, your spouse's period of living in Karachi was before your marriage since it doesn't make sense that only her NIC was updated in that time if you were married.

    Well I would not be using CNIC in EE, and perhaps it's not necessary, only passport suffice, I was just discussing by taking into account the CNIC record. So yes, she was living in karachi and applied for CNIC modification after marriege through Karachi, for this reason her present address is of Karachi, and permanent from Multan (i.e. of mine). but it's about CNIC, regarding the Passport which I recently applied for her renewal, permanent is of Multan (same as mine) and Present is our current in Abroad. But about karachi, she lived there for couple of years to complete her masters, besides always have been to Multan. what you advise, should I still get KHI PCC, just because her CNIC shows present address Karachi, and besides her permanent address on both Passport and CNIC is of multan (same as mine). CIC checks CNIC data as well? As for Karachi, PCC would cover only the stay period of her Masters, not from 18th birthday. What you suggest?
 

jojee2k6

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  • jojee2k6 said:
    @fkl, many many thanks for detailed elaboration and making it easy for me, please check my inline responses in red:

    Yes, this is what countless others (including myself) have done. CIC doesn't really go that deep comparing cities in my opinion as long as it is the same country AND THE ENTIRE period since the age of 18 is covered. Technically you might have kept residence still some where did a distant learning program or you might have been commuting weekly, thats just a make up answer or the employer or institution allowed remote work / distant learning. If CIC goes that deep, they would have to account for all the above possibilities, which they certainly don't.
    Perfect, that makes sense, and now I am very clear, so I will get PCC from multan covering period since 18th birthday till now, and will not mention any ISB, KHI address, as passport/CNIC reflects both same present and permanent address i.e. of Multan. Great, thanks you really made it easy for me.
    I assume you are submitting NIC as part of your application, so i suggest getting PCC for this one from Karachi too (only because her NIC shows that). From what i understand, your spouse's period of living in Karachi was before your marriage since it doesn't make sense that only her NIC was updated in that time if you were married.

    Well I would not be using CNIC in EE, and perhaps it's not necessary, only passport suffice, I was just discussing by taking into account the CNIC record. So yes, she was living in karachi and applied for CNIC modification after marriege through Karachi, for this reason her present address is of Karachi, and permanent from Multan (i.e. of mine). but it's about CNIC, regarding the Passport which I recently applied for her renewal, permanent is of Multan (same as mine) and Present is our current in Abroad. But about karachi, she lived there for couple of years to complete her masters, besides always have been to Multan. what you advise, should I still get KHI PCC, just because her CNIC shows present address Karachi, and besides her permanent address on both Passport and CNIC is of multan (same as mine). CIC checks CNIC data as well? As for Karachi, PCC would cover only the stay period of her Masters, not from 18th birthday. What you suggest?
@fkl, pls. assist about my wife's PCC as well, read above my response. Thanks!
 

fkl

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  • jojee2k6 said:
    @fkl, many many thanks for detailed elaboration and making it easy for me, please check my inline responses in red:

    Yes, this is what countless others (including myself) have done. CIC doesn't really go that deep comparing cities in my opinion as long as it is the same country AND THE ENTIRE period since the age of 18 is covered. Technically you might have kept residence still some where did a distant learning program or you might have been commuting weekly, thats just a make up answer or the employer or institution allowed remote work / distant learning. If CIC goes that deep, they would have to account for all the above possibilities, which they certainly don't.
    Perfect, that makes sense, and now I am very clear, so I will get PCC from multan covering period since 18th birthday till now, and will not mention any ISB, KHI address, as passport/CNIC reflects both same present and permanent address i.e. of Multan. Great, thanks you really made it easy for me.
    I assume you are submitting NIC as part of your application, so i suggest getting PCC for this one from Karachi too (only because her NIC shows that). From what i understand, your spouse's period of living in Karachi was before your marriage since it doesn't make sense that only her NIC was updated in that time if you were married.

    Well I would not be using CNIC in EE, and perhaps it's not necessary, only passport suffice, I was just discussing by taking into account the CNIC record. So yes, she was living in karachi and applied for CNIC modification after marriege through Karachi, for this reason her present address is of Karachi, and permanent from Multan (i.e. of mine). but it's about CNIC, regarding the Passport which I recently applied for her renewal, permanent is of Multan (same as mine) and Present is our current in Abroad. But about karachi, she lived there for couple of years to complete her masters, besides always have been to Multan. what you advise, should I still get KHI PCC, just because her CNIC shows present address Karachi, and besides her permanent address on both Passport and CNIC is of multan (same as mine). CIC checks CNIC data as well? As for Karachi, PCC would cover only the stay period of her Masters, not from 18th birthday. What you suggest?
You are most welcome. Per your above detail, i believe you can skip submitting Karachi PCC for your spouse and just keep the ones from Multan. NICOP is certainly not required in PR. I never submitted those for myself, nor spouse.
 

rafzy

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Visa Stamped ... Alhamdulillah

EE App Submit:07/08/2016
FSW ITA:02/11/2016
EAPR Submit & AOR:24/11/2016
Meds Passed: 30/11/2016
BG in Progress: 16/12/2016
RPRF Req: 19/12/2016
RPRF Paid: 19/12/2016
PPR Req: 19/01/2017
App Approved & Closed: 24/01/2017
 

Guybrush

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rafzy said:
Visa Stamped ... Alhamdulillah

EE App Submit:07/08/2016
FSW ITA:02/11/2016
EAPR Submit & AOR:24/11/2016
Meds Passed: 30/11/2016
BG in Progress: 16/12/2016
RPRF Req: 19/12/2016
RPRF Paid: 19/12/2016
PPR Req: 19/01/2017
App Approved & Closed: 24/01/2017

Great, Congratulations :)

Also, I believe now you would stop asking everyone about their BG in process date and VO etc. ;D
 

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Hey folks,

Does anyone here know from where and how to attest matric and HSSC certificates/transcripts in Islamabad ?

Need it for WES.

Urgent help would be appreciated :)

Thanks!
 

syedahraza

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Arslanellahi said:
Hey folks,

Does anyone here know from where and how to attest matric and HSSC certificates/transcripts in Islamabad ?

Need it for WES.

Urgent help would be appreciated :)

Thanks!
Are you currently in Pakistan?
 

syedahraza

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rafzy said:
Visa Stamped ... Alhamdulillah

EE App Submit:07/08/2016
FSW ITA:02/11/2016
EAPR Submit & AOR:24/11/2016
Meds Passed: 30/11/2016
BG in Progress: 16/12/2016
RPRF Req: 19/12/2016
RPRF Paid: 19/12/2016
PPR Req: 19/01/2017
App Approved & Closed: 24/01/2017
Congrats rafzy. Really happy for you.
 

syedahraza

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Arslanellahi said:
Yes, I am in Pakistan. Islamabad.
Contact IBCC office:

Address:
Inter Board Committee of Chairmen,
Plot No. 25,Street 38, G10/4,
Near Federal Govt. Employees Housing Foundation (FGEHF),
Islamabad,
Phone: (051)9330251, 9330252,9330253,9330254

Details of attestations are given on:

http://www.ibcc.edu.pk/index.php#openModal