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Ontario PNP application package returned

kovthe

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Jul 10, 2015
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Hi, my package was returned about in 70 days. No tracking details provided. It came as a surprise.
 

rafzy

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kovthe said:
Hi, my package was returned about in 70 days. No tracking details provided. It came as a surprise.
Was your package sent back to you through snail mail or theough any fast courier service like fedex or dhl ?
 

CPRaspirant

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kovthe said:
Hi, my package was returned about in 70 days. No tracking details provided. It came as a surprise.
Hi ,

Then how can we calculate "30 days" by when we can resubmit the application? There are also chances that package is returned to us after the 30 days or late enough that we cannot resubmit the application .
 

CanadaWeCome

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kovthe said:
Hi, my package was returned about in 70 days. No tracking details provided. It came as a surprise.
What is stated as the Reason(s) for Rejection? And had you received AOR before? If yes when?
 

kovthe

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My package was returned by some courier service(it took around seven days). They had also attached a letter stating reason for return. This letter was dated 18th November. I am not sure 30 days will be counted form 18th November or form the day I received the package. Ideally it should be from the day I received.

I did not get any AOR. I am still facing issues in getting reference letters, as my past and current employers are not willing to give a reference letter as per my requirement. Not sure what to do.
 

CanadaWeCome

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kovthe said:
My package was returned by some courier service(it took around seven days). They had also attached a letter stating reason for return. This letter was dated 18th November. I am not sure 30 days will be counted form 18th November or form the day I received the package. Ideally it should be from the day I received.

I did not get any AOR. I am still facing issues in getting reference letters, as my past and current employers are not willing to give a reference letter as per my requirement. Not sure what to do.
What is the Reason for Rejection though?
 

CPRaspirant

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kovthe said:
My package was returned by some courier service(it took around seven days). They had also attached a letter stating reason for return. This letter was dated 18th November. I am not sure 30 days will be counted form 18th November or form the day I received the package. Ideally it should be from the day I received.

I did not get any AOR. I am still facing issues in getting reference letters, as my past and current employers are not willing to give a reference letter as per my requirement. Not sure what to do.
Hi ,

I also could not get reference letters with required details mentioned from my employers , alternatively I have taken reference letters on plain paper from my colleagues and attached an LOE along with email communication with company HR( Where I requested for reference letter) .

As per my understanding many employers don't provide reference letters in the required format hence providing alternate documents along with LOE should be accepted .
 

CPRaspirant

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Hi Kovthe ,

Try to resubmit the application considering 18th Nov only as the start date of given 30 days.

I came to know in one thread that they return the package via Purolator parcel service , Please check whether your package was also returned through Purolator.
 

CPRaspirant

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CanadaWeCome said:
What is the Reason for Rejection though?
Hi ,

As per my understanding the application is not rejected instead returned because it was incomplete due to below reasons .


a) List of of places visited(page 2,section 6) in Canada information in Application
b) Employers reference letter
c) Statement of intent and ties in Ontario is also required.
 

kovthe

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You are right its not rejected. However I am unable to get reference letters as per CIC guidelines. The HRs of previous and current companies are not assisting. They are ranting that they already had given service letters as per the company policy, and they cannot give any customized service letters as per my requirement. I find it quite unreasonable, still can't help it. So standing frustateed and guessing my options. Ontario says it needs reference letters, and my companies say they cannot give. Even managers are telling they cannot go "against company policy"
 

rajkamalmohanram

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kovthe said:
You are right its not rejected. However I am unable to get reference letters as per CIC guidelines. The HRs of previous and current companies are not assisting. They are ranting that they already had given service letters as per the company policy, and they cannot give any customized service letters as per my requirement. I find it quite unreasonable, still can't help it. So standing frustateed and guessing my options. Ontario says it needs reference letters, and my companies say they cannot give. Even managers are telling they cannot go "against company policy"
I'm on the same boat and any reasonable immigration officer worth his qualifications will know that not all companies will issue such a letter. Get it from a colleague and attach his business card/Employee ID card. When there is nothing you can do about a situation, think of a best alternative!
 

whiteblanket

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Somewhere in this forum I read if they refuse to give the employment reference letter in the specified format, take print out of that refusal and provide as much proofs as possible:
tax statements
probation - confirmation letters
yearly hike - performance bonus letters / contract renewal
paystubs , bank statements
Providing all these should be reasonable for acceptance.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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whiteblanket said:
Somewhere in this forum I read if they refuse to give the employment reference letter in the specified format, take print out of that refusal and provide as much proofs as possible:
tax statements
probation - confirmation letters
yearly hike - performance bonus letters / contract renewal
paystubs , bank statements
Providing all these should be reasonable for acceptance.
Yes, correct. Provide an alternate document, proof of genuine efforts of trying to get a letter and all other supporting documents including but not limited to what is mentioned above!
 

kovthe

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Jul 10, 2015
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The application form states that "This form is to be completed and signed by the applicant. Please print clearly. All fields on this form must be completed. If questions are not applicable, mark the space with “N/A”. The application will not be processed if it is illegible or incomplete."

So in case I do not have middle name in my name, should i put N/A in "Middle Name" and similarly should I put N/A in "1.a List any other names used including name at birth, maiden name, previous married name, aliases and nicknames. Provide details."

Just trying to be extra cautious before resending my application.

Please suggest.
 

rafzy

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kovthe said:
The application form states that "This form is to be completed and signed by the applicant. Please print clearly. All fields on this form must be completed. If questions are not applicable, mark the space with “N/A”. The application will not be processed if it is illegible or incomplete."

So in case I do not have middle name in my name, should i put N/A in "Middle Name" and similarly should I put N/A in "1.a List any other names used including name at birth, maiden name, previous married name, aliases and nicknames. Provide details."

Just trying to be extra cautious before resending my application.

Please suggest.
This is correctly done by you. Being extra cautious, put N/A in every empty space even if you have filled the immediate row above the space where you are putting N/A so that OINP officials have absolutely no reason to return your application.

Better safe than sorry.