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one-year pilot OWP for spouses and common-law partners

Andy312uk

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Jan 30, 2015
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Ponga said:
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She must now wait for the OWP to be issued after she receives AIP.

She is still out of status and it is far too late to apply for a Restoration of Status.
Thank you for your reply, it is disappointing considering the advise given by CIC call centre
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Andy312uk said:
I submitted Sponsership, PR and OWP for my partner together with all medicals and fees upfront as recommended by cic call centre agent, AOR 6th June 2014, her vistor visa expired 31st may 2014, we did not renew it as an CIC call centre a gent said there was no need as she would have implied status,
We have just found out today that she is not eligible for the pilot scheme due to being out of status for 5 days

Finally my question, what are our options, the remaining time based on the current 17 month time scale , leaves about 10 months to AIP
But if new OWP was submitted now, it would only be 4months, should we be applying again? Or just wait
Should we be applying for a vistor visa ?

I am now so confused as to her status, and what we should be doing as everything we have done so far has been as suggested by CIC call centre agents
What country is she from? If visa-exempt, then she could take a quick trip to the US, and on re-entry to Canada she would get a fresh new visitor status and would no longer be out of status. Then she could probably also submit her OWP app since she would be in status.

Of course the big risk is being denied re-entry and having the inland app cancelled. However if visa-exempt the risk should be small, you'll have to figure out if it's worth it to try and get the OWP.
 

Andy312uk

Newbie
Jan 30, 2015
5
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Rob_TO said:
What country is she from? If visa-exempt, then she could take a quick trip to the US, and on re-entry to Canada she would get a fresh new visitor status and would no longer be out of status. Then she could probably also submit her OWP app since she would be in status.

Of course the big risk is being denied re-entry and having the inland app cancelled. However if visa-exempt the risk should be small, you'll have to figure out if it's worth it to try and get the OWP.
Hi we are both from the uk, British citizens, I have PR
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Andy312uk said:
Hi we are both from the uk, British citizens, I have PR
She can NOT apply for a visitor "visa", as UK citizens are visa-exempt. She only get visitor "status" when coming to Canada. And since it's been 90 days since her "status" expired, she can no longer request to restore that status.

As I said, the only way for her to get legal status again is to leave Canada and then re-enter. If she re-enters successfully that would automatically give her new "status" in Canada, and she could immediately apply for her OWP.

It's too bad you didn't do an outland app as she would probably already have PR by now or close to it, but that is water under the bridge. Research the risks involved in leaving/re-entering Canada, and see if it's something you would want to try to speed up her OWP. In showing a PR app in progress, traveling with you, and able to explain previous overstay if asked... risks of being denied entry by CBSA should be small, but of course not guaranteed.
 

Ponga

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Oct 22, 2013
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Rob_TO said:
What country is she from? If visa-exempt, then she could take a quick trip to the US, and on re-entry to Canada she would get a fresh new visitor status and would no longer be out of status. Then she could probably also submit her OWP app since she would be in status.

Of course the big risk is being denied re-entry and having the inland app cancelled. However if visa-exempt the risk should be small, you'll have to figure out if it's worth it to try and get the OWP.
Not sure if that would solve the OWP issue, since she was out of status when CIC received the Inland application. It would, however, resolve her visitor status issue.
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Ponga said:
Not sure if that would solve the OWP issue, since she was out of status when CIC received the Inland application. It would, however, resolve her visitor status issue.
It's up to your interpretation: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/work/admissibility/open.asp
qualifying foreign nationals who have submitted an application for permanent residence under the spouse or common-law partner in Canada (SCLPC) class.
Officers will issue open work permits to SCLPC applicants if they meet the following requirements:
-a PR application has been submitted under the SCLPC class;
-a Canadian citizen or permanent resident spouse has submitted a sponsorship application on their behalf;
-the SCLPC applicant resides at the same address as the sponsor; and
-the SCLPC applicant has valid temporary resident status (as a visitor, student or worker).
Case processing centres will ensure that the requirements are met and conduct a systems check to identify any adverse information on either the sponsor or the applicant that would render the applicant ineligible to receive an open work permit. If there is information that an applicant is inadmissible, their application for an open work permit will be refused


There is nothing that says valid status is required at time you submitted the app, only that status is required when the OWP is processed. Note they use the present tense "has" status, instead of past tense "had" status, so status right now seems to be more important than what status was back when app was submitted. So as soon as a person out of status re-gained their status, they could turn back into "qualifying" OWP applicants.

Again though, it's up to your interpretation.
 

Andy312uk

Newbie
Jan 30, 2015
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All immigration and border control really seems to be the way the individuals interpret the official guide lines it seems
 

Ponga

VIP Member
Oct 22, 2013
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Rob_TO said:
It's up to your interpretation: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/work/admissibility/open.asp
qualifying foreign nationals who have submitted an application for permanent residence under the spouse or common-law partner in Canada (SCLPC) class.
Officers will issue open work permits to SCLPC applicants if they meet the following requirements:
-a PR application has been submitted under the SCLPC class;
-a Canadian citizen or permanent resident spouse has submitted a sponsorship application on their behalf;
-the SCLPC applicant resides at the same address as the sponsor; and
-the SCLPC applicant has valid temporary resident status (as a visitor, student or worker).
Case processing centres will ensure that the requirements are met and conduct a systems check to identify any adverse information on either the sponsor or the applicant that would render the applicant ineligible to receive an open work permit. If there is information that an applicant is inadmissible, their application for an open work permit will be refused


There is nothing that says valid status is required at time you submitted the app, only that status is required when the OWP is processed. Note they use the present tense "has" status, instead of past tense "had" status, so status right now seems to be more important than what status was back when app was submitted. So as soon as a person out of status re-gained their status, they could turn back into "qualifying" OWP applicants.

Again though, it's up to your interpretation.
That could very well be, but until a person that has applied without status (or has since lost their status) feels like taking the risk of leaving and returning, followed by an OWP...we'll never really know.
 

jwilcanada

Full Member
Jan 19, 2015
21
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I'm just about to post my application for an open work permit. I submitted my SCLPC application May last year and my current work permit expires in just over 2 months.

From all the info Ive read all I have to do is complete IMM5710e, pay the fees of $155 and post the receipt and IMM5710 form with a cover page explaining that I have already submitted the SCLPC application and now applying for an open work permit to CPC in Vegreville?
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Not sure if this has been posted, but a friend of mine recently got OWP under this pilot program, and very easily used the OWP to register for OHIP. The 3 month waiting period starts as of date of the OWP.

So there should be no need for an actual job offer, before you can register for OHIP. OHIP person said with this class of OWP (via being sponsored) a job offer is not required.
 

rhcohen2014

VIP Member
Apr 6, 2014
4,935
185
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
March 17, 2014
Doc's Request.
April 11, 2014
AOR Received.
May 8, 2014
File Transfer...
May 9, 2014
Med's Request
upfront
Med's Done....
Nov 15, 2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
July 15, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
July 25, 2014/ received August 1, 2014
LANDED..........
August 29, 2014
Rob_TO said:
Not sure if this has been posted, but a friend of mine recently got OWP under this pilot program, and very easily used the OWP to register for OHIP. The 3 month waiting period starts as of date of the OWP.

So there should be no need for an actual job offer, before you can register for OHIP. OHIP person said with this class of OWP (via being sponsored) a job offer is not required.
yes, people have mentioned the class is "27" and there have been no reports of issues getting ohip. at least CIC did something right!
 

raffylopezcutora

Star Member
Jan 10, 2015
57
1
Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Mississauga - inland app
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
October 19, 2014
AOR Received.
September 9, 2015
Med's Request
September 15, 2015
Med's Done....
September 29, 2014 - upfront
Interview........
October 28, 2015
LANDED..........
October 28, 2015
Rob_TO said:
Not sure if this has been posted, but a friend of mine recently got OWP under this pilot program, and very easily used the OWP to register for OHIP. The 3 month waiting period starts as of date of the OWP.

So there should be no need for an actual job offer, before you can register for OHIP. OHIP person said with this class of OWP (via being sponsored) a job offer is not required.
Do you know when did your friend submitted his OWP app under the piloy program?.. I submitted mine las Jan 19 so far nothing from CIC yet..
 

wanderer1974

Newbie
Feb 4, 2015
1
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We applied for PR in Sept 2013. We are still waiting to hear about phase 1, my approval as sponsor.

We sent in the OWP app under the new pilot program the first week of Jan 2015. We are going crazy waiting for a response as 17 months of unemployment is enough to make anyone stir crazy. Does anyone know the timeline on this? I know they say up to 4 months but any good news on seeing it sooner?