OINP Application sent in November 2015

[ingeb]

Hello anyone who got a PFL have any news yet? I got the PFL on November 4th, and sent them the documents the next 2 days and didn't hear anything back from them. It's been a year since my application.....

No news yet. Received PFL on Nov 2 and replied the same day. As usual complete silence after that..
413 days and counting..

 

[reef]

Hi Everyone,

I have some information about the situation in Ontario. Not completely new, but a confirmation of what we already knew.
Last Saturday I visited Destination Canada in Brussels and I finally got to talk to an Immigration officer from Ontario. She confirmed that the number we call is no longer in use by the customer Service representatives, because these people have been moved over to help with our files. As for E-Mail responses, there are only 3 People who check our emails.
So definetely understaffed!

 

[g126]

No news yet. Received PFL on Nov 2 and replied the same day. As usual complete silence after that..
413 days and counting..

Wow... 413 days...

I'm so sorry about that! I hope your situation is resolved soon.

 

[MichaelCorleone]

Urgent Help Required: Raj and others
Due to new changes I got 50 points for my employment now I am 498 without PNP. might get ITA next round

I had not included my wife in the application until this point thinking that I would make changes once i receive my nomination from oinp.

Now questions
1. I feel that i should include my wife's name in the profile. This will take away 30 -40 points ? do you guys agree
2. What are the implications If I don't do it ? Was this one of the reasons for my delay in nomination ???

Please help

As per CIC website, spouse visa is taking around 18 months (including sponsor verification). It is always advisable to include spouse and other dependants as accompanying. Only downside is higher fees but saves a lot of trouble later on. Your spouse / dependants can always return if they want to complete their school/college year or continue with current work while you get settled there.

 

[cococly]

As per CIC website, spouse visa is taking around 18 months (including sponsor verification). It is always advisable to include spouse and other dependants as accompanying. Only downside is higher fees but saves a lot of trouble later on. Your spouse / dependants can always return if they want to complete their school/college year or continue with current work while you get settled there.

Something interesting that I found and also heard from a close friend of mine (Husband is a Canadian Citizen) , his wife who has already lived in Canada for 10 years, need to wait more than 2 years for PR, whereas if they went back to their home country, the processing time for PR for his wife would be 1 year.

 

[bgj]

No news yet. Received PFL on Nov 2 and replied the same day. As usual complete silence after that..
413 days and counting..

same here. I wish they don't take 9 months for this

 

[MichaelCorleone]

Something interesting that I found and also heard from a close friend of mine (Husband is a Canadian Citizen) , his wife who has already lived in Canada for 10 years, need to wait more than 2 years for PR, whereas if they went back to their home country, the processing time for PR for his wife would be 1 year.

you are absolutely correct. inland applicants for spouse visa have time frame of 26 months and outland have time frame of 18 months. This makes sense also, families who are separated need to be united first. Any family who are already together can wait a bit longer for visa.

here is the official link to get visa processing times:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/

 

[g126]

you are absolutely correct. inland applicants for spouse visa have time frame of 26 months and outland have time frame of 18 months. This makes sense also, families who are separated need to be united first. Any family who are already together can wait a bit longer for visa.

here is the official link to get visa processing times:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/

Usefull info +1

 

[rohitbites]

Received PFL on 5th Nov. Emailed them all the docs they requested today. Waiting season begins...

 

[PiyushAgrawal06121985]

Received PFL on 5th Nov. Emailed them all the docs they requested today. Waiting season begins...

Good luck mate!

 

[gayathry84]

It's been 10 days since I sent addition documents. No response at all. Is this normal ?

 

[rohitbites]

The initials of the officer who sent me PFL were 'JC'. Is there anyone else who got PFL with JC as the officer?

 

[GodLuck]

Yes... quite a few people actually... I think that so long as you address correctly OINP's concerns you're fine!

I read on the forum (not sure which thread now) of someone who had received a PFL as the officer was not convinced with his ties to Ontario. He was CEC working in another province, but forgot or did provide a decent letter of intent to reside in Ontario. He replied to the PFL stating that his company was ready to transfer him to their Ontario office and that he had family in Ontario with whom he was going to live as soon as he moved. He provided the appropriate documents (family's ID, house lease and a statement saying he'd be welcome to live there) and was nominated about a week later.

It's all about addressing their concerns!

Some people claimed to have received confusing letters with no clear concerns, whcih is a pity, in this case you should seek advice from a lawyer or perhaps skilled immigration consultant.

What you need to be extra careful about with a PFL is that it's you last and only shot to convince them to nominate you, so you need to be convincing!

Very helpful comment. I sent my application one month after you guys, and same as you I have received an unclear PFL on my FSW experience, I will try to find a lawyer to consult.

Good luck to every one

 

[rohitbites]

PFL - Procedural Fairness Letter is what you get before they reject you... It works like this, they'll analyse your file and make a decision, if the decision is not to give you a NoM, then you get a PFL.

Now, you may be asking, why would you not get a NoM... The two main reasons I've seen here are:
- Candidate applied as a CEC, but OINP's calculation of his Canadian work experience is less than a year, therefore he hasn't met the basic criteria for CEC
- No intent to reside on Ontario, this is when you've failed to convince the officer in charge of your application that you'll move to Ontario if they nominate you, usually you'll get an additional docs request asking you to submit your ties to Ontario before this happens.

Once you get a PFL you get given some time (I think it's 30 days) to reply addressing the issues they've noted, so for example, suppose you didn't convince the officer of your intent to live in Ontario, then you get given ONE more chance to convince them. Your response will be looked at by another senior office with fresh set of eyes, if he's convinced then you get the nomination, if not then you don't.

PFL is seen as a fair rejection mechanism as it gives the candidate a chance to defend himself before the final decision is made.

Now, as for when you can get a PFL I'm not sure... For me it would make sense to be on the decision phase, but perhaps some other members with more knowledge or experience specific to PFL can help you.

I got PFL with respect to settlement of funds. Express entry guys pointed out that I had not provided them enough details on the PF part - whether the amount are unemcumbered / can be readily transferable. And asked me to submit fresh documents.

In reply, I have submitted updated and bank attested savings statements from my salary account, and for PF, I have sent LOE stating that the entire PF amount can be withdrawn immediately for abroad settlement under para 69(1)(c), PF scheme 1952. The LOE is notarised and attested by an advocate, as PF office these days don't provide any letters. Also, I sent updated PF statement attested by an advocate.

I am hoping this suffices, and I get nominated soon.

 

[rohitbites]

Does anyone know in how much time will they get back to me with their decision after the documents are sent post PFL? I hope it is not 2-3 months.