New Express Entry ranking system will be applied on Nov 19th (detail inside!)

[fatani]

Two more gazette notices might come soon separately for Siblings, French, may be next week before Nov 19.

After all, it was 3 separate things: 1) Student, 2)Sibling and 3)French.

That's why it might come separately.

They have amnended everything at same point because they also ammended LMIA rules. Why you want siblings rule in EE. There should be another stream like they have for spouse childerens and parents. Siblings are not constant. One could have 5 siblings and the other could have only 1. And what if siblings dont want to come to canada. Some siblings should have the skills and are younger but other might not have any skills and are older so whats the point giving them extra points. For once I can understand giving bonus points to intl students in EE. But not to siblings. I am not against them but there should be a seperate stream. And for french there is a whole big Canadian province called Quebec reserved only for them. They have their own program and french speaking persons can get easy job there. And all french speakers should be thankful that federal still treats french and english as a same. And even Ontario have a stream in which they will nominate you even if you have 350 points just need CLB 7 french and CLB 6 english. So why you people are expecting more from federal system. Federal system is federal system they knew that they should make it fair to everyone. Thats why there are PNPs because if federal will give you all benifits like more points for 2nd language and more points for siblings then who will care to apply through PNP. They still give huge points for french if french is your first language. They could have had the policy for low points for french like Quebec has for english does not matter either its your first or second language. People should understand that it is a federal system they have to take care of all and make it fair and equal for all. If anybody have added advantage then there is a system called PNP which gives you advantages.

 

[sojugeorge_1]

That's "their vision" so might not happen.

If name is express entry family reunification then liberals make their promise a reality.

 

[kryt0n]

They have amnended everything at same point because they also ammended LMIA rules. Why you want siblings rule in EE. There should be another stream like they have for spouse childerens and parents. Siblings are not constant. One could have 5 siblings and the other could have only 1. And what if siblings dont want to come to canada. Some siblings should have the skills and are younger but other might not have any skills and are older so whats the point giving them extra points. For once I can understand giving bonus points to intl students in EE. But not to siblings. I am not against them but there should be a seperate stream. And for french there is a whole big Canadian province called Quebec reserved only for them. They have their own program and french speaking persons can get easy job there. And all french speakers should be thankful that federal still treats french and english as a same. And even Ontario have a stream in which they will nominate you even if you have 350 points just need CLB 7 french and CLB 6 english. So why you people are expecting more from federal system. Federal system is federal system they knew that they should make it fair to everyone. Thats why there are PNPs because if federal will give you all benifits like more points for 2nd language and more points for siblings then who will care to apply through PNP. They still give huge points for french if french is your first language. They could have had the policy for low points for french like Quebec has for english does not matter either its your first or second language. People should understand that it is a federal system they have to take care of all and make it fair and equal for all. If anybody have added advantage then there is a system called PNP which gives you advantages.

+1

 

[johnjkjk]

Why have points for LIMA been reduced? Surely LIMA applicants have a flying start and are more likely to be employed vs those without a job. At 200, it would only make sense to get LMIA if one is sitting at 350-400.

This may impact quite a number of people. I know of someone moving from the British to Canadian armed forces under LMIA- but their score is low because of age and lack of degree. I think this person is far more likely to settle in than a foreigner with a 1 year Canadian diploma but poor English language ability, but they may end up with the same points.

 

[kryt0n]

Why have points for LIMA been reduced? Surely LIMA applicants have a flying start and are more likely to be employed vs those without a job. At 200, it would only make sense to get LMIA if one is sitting at 350-400.

This may impact quite a number of people. I know of someone moving from the British to Canadian armed forces under LMIA- but their score is low because of age and lack of degree. I think this person is far more likely to settle in than a foreigner with a 1 year Canadian diploma but poor English language ability, but they may end up with the same points.

Exactly. They want skilled people being offered lmia's not unskilled people. Also, it's only 50 points, not 200. It's only 200 for CEO's on $200,000+ a year.

The lmia system before was open to corruption, now it's fair.

 

[johnjkjk]

Exactly. They want skilled people being offered lmia's not unskilled people. Also, it's only 50 points, not 200. It's only 200 for CEO's on $200,000+ a year.

The lmia system before was open to corruption, now it's fair.

200 for Skill occupation A/B. As to being open to corruption- getting an LMIA is rather difficult. Any corrupt practice once discovered could lead to revocation of PR/citizenship- i.e. a lifetime of looking back over one's shoulder. It's far easier to get PNP

I still believe that someone with a job offer should be prioritised- after all the point of economic immigration is to work and these people have a flying start.

As to wanting skilled people- a lower score doesn't necessarily mean unskilled. Age, lack of higher degree etc can mean a lower score, even if the person is a native english speaker and highly skilled and experienced. PNPs are to blame for lower skilled workers- as it's clear provinces need such people to support gaps in their economies. LIMA isn't to blame.

 

[fatani]

Why have points for LIMA been reduced? Surely LIMA applicants have a flying start and are more likely to be employed vs those without a job. At 200, it would only make sense to get LMIA if one is sitting at 350-400.

This may impact quite a number of people. I know of someone moving from the British to Canadian armed forces under LMIA- but their score is low because of age and lack of degree. I think this person is far more likely to settle in than a foreigner with a 1 year Canadian diploma but poor English language ability, but they may end up with the same points.

Because they want to bring the cut off scores down.

 

[kryt0n]

200 for Skill occupation A/B. As to being open to corruption- getting an LMIA is rather difficult. Any corrupt practice once discovered could lead to revocation of PR/citizenship- i.e. a lifetime of looking back over one's shoulder. It's far easier to get PNP

I still believe that someone with a job offer should be prioritised- after all the point of economic immigration is to work and these people have a flying start.

As to wanting skilled people- a lower score doesn't necessarily mean unskilled. Age, lack of higher degree etc can mean a lower score, even if the person is a native english speaker and highly skilled and experienced. PNPs are to blame for lower skilled workers- as it's clear provinces need such people to support gaps in their economies. LIMA isn't to blame.

People with skill a or B only get 50 points for lmia, not 200.

 

[kryt0n]

200 for Skill occupation A/B. As to being open to corruption- getting an LMIA is rather difficult. Any corrupt practice once discovered could lead to revocation of PR/citizenship- i.e. a lifetime of looking back over one's shoulder. It's far easier to get PNP

I still believe that someone with a job offer should be prioritised- after all the point of economic immigration is to work and these people have a flying start.

As to wanting skilled people- a lower score doesn't necessarily mean unskilled. Age, lack of higher degree etc can mean a lower score, even if the person is a native english speaker and highly skilled and experienced. PNPs are to blame for lower skilled workers- as it's clear provinces need such people to support gaps in their economies. LIMA isn't to blame.

Hang on, except for the age score, a lack of education and a lack of fsw does mean they are less skilled.

There's a whole different set of qualification you can get converted of you are a skilled worker, like an electrician which equates to a degree etc.

 

[ashu1710]

200 for Skill occupation A/B. As to being open to corruption- getting an LMIA is rather difficult. Any corrupt practice once discovered could lead to revocation of PR/citizenship- i.e. a lifetime of looking back over one's shoulder. It's far easier to get PNP

I still believe that someone with a job offer should be prioritised- after all the point of economic immigration is to work and these people have a flying start.

As to wanting skilled people- a lower score doesn't necessarily mean unskilled. Age, lack of higher degree etc can mean a lower score, even if the person is a native english speaker and highly skilled and experienced. PNPs are to blame for lower skilled workers- as it's clear provinces need such people to support gaps in their economies. LIMA isn't to blame.

"Any corrupt practice once discovered could lead to revocation of PR/citizenship- i.e. a lifetime of looking back over one's shoulder."

Not for LMIA, because you employer is responsible for the LMIA application, not you. So if an LMIA was based on fraud, it's not your fault so you won't be punished. The employer would be fined and barred from using the LMIA system ever again, both of which are insignificant, non-criminal penalties.

 

[Gorbzilla]

Re: New Express Entry ranking system will be applied in Nov 19th (detail inside!)

They seem to just be clarifying that people with a master's also get the high points whereas before it just said 3 years or more... but you cant get a master's without a degree (I'd hope) so it does just seem like a change in wording :s

I know this is one of the earlier comments but I just picked up on this thread. It is possible to get a Master's without a Bachelors, as I have done so. In the UK, there exist Undergraduate Masters (or Integrated Masters) degrees. In these courses, you study for 4 years, and only get a Masters at the end, one which is uniquely named such as MMATH or MCHEM to distinguish it from the usual BSc MSc path.

My MMATH degree was converted by WES as a Bachelor's and Master's degree, giving me the extra points for two post secondary credentials in skills transferability. Any new wording that makes this more clear is a welcome change, as I had no idea how WES would see my degree until I paid for it.

 

[kryt0n]

Re: New Express Entry ranking system will be applied in Nov 19th (detail inside!)

I know this is one of the earlier comments but I just picked up on this thread. It is possible to get a Master's without a Bachelors, as I have done so. In the UK, there exist Undergraduate Masters (or Integrated Masters) degrees. In these courses, you study for 4 years, and only get a Masters at the end, one which is uniquely named such as MMATH or MCHEM to distinguish it from the usual BSc MSc path.

My MMATH degree was converted by WES as a Bachelor's and Master's degree, giving me the extra points for two post secondary credentials in skills transferability. Any new wording that makes this more clear is a welcome change, as I had no idea how WES would see my degree until I paid for it.

But you didn't just do a masters straight after secondary school, that's the point

 

[Pat180715]

I'm all in favor of more points for siblings in EE as I would only benefit from it. And I think that 10-20 points is quite fair and would be enough. On the one hand it's true that having a sibling in CA will help one to settle faster, but on the other hand I kind of agree that EE has been made for economic immigration and having a sibling in CA is not linked with contributing to economy at all.

As for French I don't understand why additional points are needed. One may take IELTS and TEF and boost the CRS. Besides, there are provinces who are interested in frankophones like NB. They make French-speaking people's applications a priority.

 

[SVY]

I think the ee profile will now ask something like this:

Do you have a qualifying job offer yes/no
If yes, is the job offer the result of LMIA, NAFTA, ICT...
If it's NAFTA/ICT, does your work permit state your employer yes/no.

Then, if it's a yes to the last one, as proof you will need their formal type of job reference letter that you've already been at that company for a year...

Thanks Mate

 

[hi_canada]

I think the notification published on previous Thursdays was only meant for former students as the related figures concern them. We can observe that in additional factors: they have declared province , job and Canadian Educational credential and Canadian educational credentials have been elaborately mentioned. Moreover, I guess the headline as shown :
The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, pursuant to section 10.3 (see footnote a) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (see footnote b), gives the annexed Ministerial Instructions Amending the Ministerial Instructions Respecting the Express Entry System, 2016-1 mat indicate there might be few more notifications ending with 2016-2, 2016-3.....