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Dan_from_Surrey

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Nov 5, 2010
485
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124
Surrey BC
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19-09-2012
Doc's Request.
Submitted with app
AOR Received.
Sponsorship approval 24-10-12
File Transfer...
24-10-12
Med's Request
Meds received 1-11-12
Med's Done....
15-08-2012 - Meds re-done 24-10-2013
Interview........
NA
Passport Req..
04-06-2013 DM 04-11-13
VISA ISSUED...
11-12-2013
LANDED..........
22-11-2013!
Tagum-N.B. said:
8) 8) oh my, :p didnt you read the news immigration canada has sped up visas in the past few years and refined the service, :-* :p 8) :eek: or at least that is what they recently announced LOL :eek: :p 8)
Yeah now they just throw a couple more darts ;D
 

CanadianJeepGuy

Champion Member
Jun 24, 2012
2,666
99
Winnipeg, Manitoba
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
N/A
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-05-2012; "In Process" 26-04-2013
Doc's Request.
docs and pics resent 04-09-2012
AOR Received.
16-08-2012 (Unofficial. Received email missing docs)
File Transfer...
09-10-2012
Med's Request
April 14th 2013
Med's Done....
Dec 2011; re-med May 06 2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
May 06 2013
VISA ISSUED...
May 27 2013
LANDED..........
June 15th 2013
I thought the Embassy had a contract service that prescreens applications for completeness?
 

Luckyman

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Sep 18, 2011
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I've been following the news....and yes, yet another reason it's so confusing.

When I was following at the beginning (even before we applied) I understood that with any drastic change in the system comes growing pains that I thought was apparent in the strange wait times for stage 1 last year.....but even if it trickled into stage 2 (such is the case with May-Sep 2012 SA Approval dates) it still doesn't explain the utter lack of any systematic approach or structure whatsoever.

I have to admit.....the taste is pretty sour....and yes....the immigration reports in the news make that taste rotten.

I just don't get how it even functions....seriously...applications lost, sent to wrong countries, no order, complicated becomes easy....easy becomes complicated, office closures, requests for already submitted docs, re do this, re do that...

And yet, it's still $1040 per app, which is reduced from previous, but that's still approximately $2.4 Million per year just for family class applications with no dependents.

I'm literally stunned....how is this possible???
 

Iay

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Feb 4, 2013
1,562
48
Vancouver, BC
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb 2, 2017
AOR Received.
2017/02/10 In-process 2017/02/16 Test 2017/03/22 DM 2017/03/23
Lalabp said:
Hi guys. I would just like to ask an advice. Me and my boyfriend were planning to get married this july2013 and I am in Live In Caregiver Program, i lodge my application Sept 2012. Last february i received a letter from Canadian Embassy telling me that they received my application and the payment for my application. i would like to know if there would be a delay or refusal in my application if ever we do get married? Please please help me. Anyone? Thank You very much. God bless us all:)
I have a friend whose the same case as yours. She is in live-in caregiver program too, and then she applied for PR. She did not wait for the PR and she got married during the process. I'm not sure what exactly happened but what I heard was that it kind of delayed her spousal app. So if I were you, it's better to wait for your PR before getting married.
 

Tagum-N.B.

Champion Member
Jan 11, 2013
2,231
47
Category........
Visa Office......
manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-01-2012
AOR Received.
manila 20-03-2012 in process july1, 2013
IELTS Request
remeds request july11 remed complete july17-aug 1
VISA ISSUED...
AUGUST 31.2013
LANDED..........
SEPTEMBER 25, 2013
gortandmugs said:
well looking at the spread sheet... why are some getting PPR faster than others that have waited longer...I look at it this way...if you don,t have a PPR by 190 days something is wrong....I bet it sat in Mississauga longer and forgot to send it to CEM.... then found it a month later then sent it... hey they still got a year to play with your life!!!!! then make you do medicals all over again... but paying in advance...that a pile of S&&&&t... Hey I don,t even have my app opened yet or do I know its even there....and being a Friday there now 5 hrs they are only open.... do you think anything really gets done.... I have not seen a PPR yet on the spread sheet on a friday... so there goes 3 more days... then Monday ...who moves that fast....
ohhhhhhhhhh MONDAY IS MY BRING FORWARD DATE YAHOOOOOOOOOO, IF SOMETHING ISNT DONE NXT WEEK I WILL SURE START WRITING A LOT OF EMAILS 8) 8) I WOULD SURE LIKE TO GO (IN PROCESS) tired going into ecas for 13 months aND SEEING THE SAME G?DDAM THING. IVE WAITED PATIENTLY NOW, WHEN I STARTED IS WAS SUPPOSE TO BE 7 MONTHS NOW IVE WAITED 13, PATIENTS IS ALL GONE. :p :p :p
 

Tagum-N.B.

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Jan 11, 2013
2,231
47
Category........
Visa Office......
manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-01-2012
AOR Received.
manila 20-03-2012 in process july1, 2013
IELTS Request
remeds request july11 remed complete july17-aug 1
VISA ISSUED...
AUGUST 31.2013
LANDED..........
SEPTEMBER 25, 2013
gortandmugs said:
did you have any papers sent back because you were missing papers.... that will take longer
jUST THE USUAL AT FIRST AND THE SENDING OF THE AOM GOT F??DED UP NOW WE JUST SENT AN EXPLANATION ON THE BIOLOGICAL FATHER OF THE 4 YEAR OLD AS THAT WAS ASKED FOR FEB 22 WITH A 45 DAY TIME LIMIT, SO APRIL 8 IS 45 DAYS
 

scos

Champion Member
Jun 11, 2012
1,026
48
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
2012-08-01
AOR Received.
2012-10-16
Med's Request
2013-05-02
Med's Done....
2013-05-07
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
2013-05-02, In-Process: 2013-06-04, Decision Made: 2013-07-25
VISA ISSUED...
2013-07-30
LANDED..........
2013-08-18
rairaiken said:
my life was so hectic for a bit that i forgot to update.

i'm now in canada!

the embassy probably got tired of us and non-stop emails that they just decided "hey, let's just give em the visa"
That's great! You are with Thundersoul is that correct? I am missing:

In Process Date.
Decision Made Date.
Visa Received Date.

Thanks!
 

scos

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Jun 11, 2012
1,026
48
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
2012-08-01
AOR Received.
2012-10-16
Med's Request
2013-05-02
Med's Done....
2013-05-07
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
2013-05-02, In-Process: 2013-06-04, Decision Made: 2013-07-25
VISA ISSUED...
2013-07-30
LANDED..........
2013-08-18
Luckyman said:
I've been following the news....and yes, yet another reason it's so confusing.

When I was following at the beginning (even before we applied) I understood that with any drastic change in the system comes growing pains that I thought was apparent in the strange wait times for stage 1 last year.....but even if it trickled into stage 2 (such is the case with May-Sep 2012 SA Approval dates) it still doesn't explain the utter lack of any systematic approach or structure whatsoever.

I have to admit.....the taste is pretty sour....and yes....the immigration reports in the news make that taste rotten.

I just don't get how it even functions....seriously...applications lost, sent to wrong countries, no order, complicated becomes easy....easy becomes complicated, office closures, requests for already submitted docs, re do this, re do that...

And yet, it's still $1040 per app, which is reduced from previous, but that's still approximately $2.4 Million per year just for family class applications with no dependents.

I'm literally stunned....how is this possible???
I think the reason it looks like so many different methods is because they do whatever is expedient. Like the process normally in sequence, but then their process stats start looking bad so they start cherry picking quick easy apps, or then they see a pile of meds expiring so they grab those and start ramming them through. Then when the stats look a little better they go back to the plodding methodical system.

It reminds me of a tech support company I was evaluating for a company I was consulting for. They were showing us all sorts of graphs that seemed to show that their response time to problems and successful resolutions was amazing. But when you looked closely at the numbers you noticed how the system was gamed. Like they counted a call as "new" when it was transferred to a new agent. So guess what they did a lot of? What, you are guaranteed 48 hour service and the clock says 47 have elapsed? TRANSFER!

Stuff like that happens all the time. You can be sure with all the new GCMS updates and such there is a lot of juggling with stats to show how the new software is "revolutionizing" the immigration process.
 

CanadianJeepGuy

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Jun 24, 2012
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99
Winnipeg, Manitoba
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
N/A
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-05-2012; "In Process" 26-04-2013
Doc's Request.
docs and pics resent 04-09-2012
AOR Received.
16-08-2012 (Unofficial. Received email missing docs)
File Transfer...
09-10-2012
Med's Request
April 14th 2013
Med's Done....
Dec 2011; re-med May 06 2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
May 06 2013
VISA ISSUED...
May 27 2013
LANDED..........
June 15th 2013
scos said:
I think the reason it looks like so many different methods is because they do whatever is expedient. Like the process normally in sequence, but then their process stats start looking bad so they start cherry picking quick easy apps, or then they see a pile of meds expiring so they grab those and start ramming them through. Then when the stats look a little better they go back to the plodding methodical system.

It reminds me of a tech support company I was evaluating for a company I was consulting for. They were showing us all sorts of graphs that seemed to show that their response time to problems and successful resolutions was amazing. But when you looked closely at the numbers you noticed how the system was gamed. Like they counted a call as "new" when it was transferred to a new agent. So guess what they did a lot of? What, you are guaranteed 48 hour service and the clock says 47 have elapsed? TRANSFER!

Stuff like that happens all the time. You can be sure with all the new GCMS updates and such there is a lot of juggling with stats to show how the new software is "revolutionizing" the immigration process.
Good comment SCOS. I'm in agreement with you. All government departments operate on a creative data method. All department managers care about is if their hard targets are met. That is their only evidence that they can manage. The Post Office used to be particularly bad at that before we went to more electronic processing and even still there are was to dope the numbers. They currently do that mostly with structuring workloads so on paper the workload looks managable but the reality is the worker is way over burdened.
 

Tagum-N.B.

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Jan 11, 2013
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Visa Office......
manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-01-2012
AOR Received.
manila 20-03-2012 in process july1, 2013
IELTS Request
remeds request july11 remed complete july17-aug 1
VISA ISSUED...
AUGUST 31.2013
LANDED..........
SEPTEMBER 25, 2013
scos said:
I think the reason it looks like so many different methods is because they do whatever is expedient. Like the process normally in sequence, but then their process stats start looking bad so they start cherry picking quick easy apps, or then they see a pile of meds expiring so they grab those and start ramming them through. Then when the stats look a little better they go back to the plodding methodical system.

It reminds me of a tech support company I was evaluating for a company I was consulting for. They were showing us all sorts of graphs that seemed to show that their response time to problems and successful resolutions was amazing. But when you looked closely at the numbers you noticed how the system was gamed. Like they counted a call as "new" when it was transferred to a new agent. So guess what they did a lot of? What, you are guaranteed 48 hour service and the clock says 47 have elapsed? TRANSFER!

Stuff like that happens all the time. You can be sure with all the new GCMS updates and such there is a lot of juggling with stats to show how the new software is "revolutionizing" the immigration process.
YOU HEAD THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD, YOU UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHATS GOING ON
 

Luckyman

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Now that I think about this a little more.....I think some of the processing order is based on planned settling location, as these are all part of the governments projections and quotas.

Having said that...I don't think it accounts for all the inconsistency.....but should account for some of them.
 

CanadianJeepGuy

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Jun 24, 2012
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Winnipeg, Manitoba
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
N/A
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-05-2012; "In Process" 26-04-2013
Doc's Request.
docs and pics resent 04-09-2012
AOR Received.
16-08-2012 (Unofficial. Received email missing docs)
File Transfer...
09-10-2012
Med's Request
April 14th 2013
Med's Done....
Dec 2011; re-med May 06 2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
May 06 2013
VISA ISSUED...
May 27 2013
LANDED..........
June 15th 2013
Luckyman said:
Now that I think about this a little more.....I think some of the processing order is based on planned settling location, as these are all part of the governments projections and quotas.

Having said that...I don't think it accounts for all the inconsistency.....but should account for some of them.
I think if that was the case then applications for New Brunswick and Manitoba would be the first approved since these are the least desirable places to live in Canada. If it wasn't for immigration they would have negative population growth.
 

Tagum-N.B.

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Jan 11, 2013
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manila
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-01-2012
AOR Received.
manila 20-03-2012 in process july1, 2013
IELTS Request
remeds request july11 remed complete july17-aug 1
VISA ISSUED...
AUGUST 31.2013
LANDED..........
SEPTEMBER 25, 2013
CanadianJeepGuy said:
I think if that was the case then applications for New Brunswick and Manitoba would be the first approved since these are the least desirable places to live in Canada. If it wasn't for immigration they would have negative population growth.
new brunswick has negative population growth
 

Tagum-N.B.

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Visa Office......
manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-01-2012
AOR Received.
manila 20-03-2012 in process july1, 2013
IELTS Request
remeds request july11 remed complete july17-aug 1
VISA ISSUED...
AUGUST 31.2013
LANDED..........
SEPTEMBER 25, 2013
gortandmugs said:
Well like I said another Friday with no PPR,s... looks like alot of us are going to break the record for waiting for ppr...the average is 183... Maybe Monday it will speed up.....
Nothing makes sence with cem i had PPr in 2 days and now still waiting 13 months lol
 

CanadianJeepGuy

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Jun 24, 2012
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Winnipeg, Manitoba
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
N/A
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-05-2012; "In Process" 26-04-2013
Doc's Request.
docs and pics resent 04-09-2012
AOR Received.
16-08-2012 (Unofficial. Received email missing docs)
File Transfer...
09-10-2012
Med's Request
April 14th 2013
Med's Done....
Dec 2011; re-med May 06 2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
May 06 2013
VISA ISSUED...
May 27 2013
LANDED..........
June 15th 2013
gortandmugs said:
I don,t think there is anyway to tell... and I think alot of people on the spread sheet are even looking at it.. if you look a PPR was giving to a person that was approved Oct 17.... WHY!!!! on the web site they say they do them as they come in.... if that were the case alot of us should have PPR,s Mine is Oct 16.... don,t make sense.... there are 11 pprs done after oct 16... Like I said ...as a Canadian.. we are going to break the record time for PPR....I,m saying around 260 days now... by that time Dec app will be ahead of us.... and 90% are PR,s... anyone wanna bet!!!!
Mine was received in Manila October 12th and it hasn't even been opened yet. They do not follow any set order by date received.