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AladdinsGirl

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If your family disowned you then why are they sending you money??

He sure isn't acting like a friend now is he?? more like a spoiled brat

As I said, thats my opinion from what you have written.
 

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privileged or not it's the financial and housing support he receives. Take those away and you will see how much he loves you.

And why are your parents giving him money when they've disowned you.
 

heybrucie

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They took me back. I mean my parents still wired me money on the low to pay my rent when they disowned me but my sister gets to call the shots and my sister is crazy about Christianity so she wanted nothing to do with me and she advised my parents to do the same.
 

heybrucie

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I called Immigration yesterday and they said they'll contact me in 2 weeks for investigation.


...and after that he found an apartment that he likes and we got it.
 

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heybrucie said:
I called Immigration yesterday and they said they'll contact me in 2 weeks for investigation.
Why on earth would you do that? You've managed to self report yourself for a conditional residency investigation.
 

heybrucie

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scylla said:
Why on earth would you do that? You've managed to self report yourself for a conditional residency investigation.

I realize I don't know what I'm getting into so I cancelled my request...with much effort. The operator won't just take "I wasn't thinking right" for an answer.

About giving up my PR, yea I could do that, but we're just gonna end up redoing the whole thing. He's willing to live in the Philippines even though he can't eat anything there besides pizza and chicken nuggets and chicken strips. But imagine listening to him complain about the Asian drivers and the terrible FIlipino food... We'll eventaully have to live in Canada someday cause the Philippines is not a forever thing. The new President is also a d**k.

If I lose my PR status, hopefully he'll start looking for a job or finally be an adult or something. He's such a douche right now because no matter what he'll get ODSP payment at the end of the month.
 

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Please understand that this is an immigration forum and not a family relationships one. You have been provided with the appropriate immigration information. You may be best served by seeing a lawyer or family relationships counselling.
 

Canad1anAl1en

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It might be an immigration forum, but if no one minds I will give you one piece of advice. STOP! You and your thoughts are going round and round at about million miles a minute, and as happened with CIC, all you are doing is creating more problems for yourself....not solutions. I have been in your shoes, granted not in another country, now is the time to start thinking about you, and creating an exit strategy. Your "marriage" will not work, your partner does not want a wife, they want another mum, who provides everything for them..(in my case they wanted another dad) as soon as you turn off the tap, you may well find their love turns off as well and by the sounds of it his entire family will happily see to it at that point you are out of Canada on your ass!
IF you must live with him for another year, then so be it..however should you have to go back home to retain your sanity you will need money..and not just for a plane ticket, to re-start life in your home country, start discreetly saving in an account you and you alone control (even better make it one that the statements come to your email rather than by post, so your partner has no idea whats in it). Just doing this one thing alone will start to give you some security both mentally and in reality.
I will give you the advice my grandmother gave me..."a pound in the bank is your best friend". If things become unbearable, well, easy enough with savings to get on a plane...or hire a lawyer!!

Don't respond to this post on the forum, if you want to message me feel free, as others have said this is an immigration forum not a relationship forum, and in that vein, while condition 51 applies (2 years from when PR was granted) should you and your partner stop living in a relationship then you would lose your PR should CIC decide it was a marriage of convience (it's not automatic)..his mum however, would ensure CIC was all over you like fleas on a hound dog.

At the very least I would seek legal advice now..very discreetly...and perhaps it would not be a bad idea to keep a discreet diary should you have to show the history of why you had to leave.

I wish you all the luck in the world.
 

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You know what you can do, make a decision, a better decision. I know it frustrate you living with that kind of guy but like other members said, this isn't a relationship forum, your husband is young and still immature, and as a wife, you are the one that's responsible of him. The medicine in here is not to complain, and just be happy, or ignore those negative things, complaining will make it worst.

PS.for me, The new President of The PH is better than the old one.

Fix this up and enjoy every moment and stop complaining, ask some related issue about immigration in here next time. Good day.
 

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Canad1anAl1en said:
while condition 51 applies (2 years from when PR was granted) should you and your partner stop living in a relationship then you would lose your PR should CIC decide it was a marriage of convience (it's not automatic)..
This is not correct. Condition 51 is enforceable and could lost PR status regardless of if the initial relationship was a real one or one of convenience.
 

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It is cases like this that require Condition 51s removal or tweeking. No one should have to live like this because they would be sent back. Some spouses actually want to contribute to Canada.
 

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heybrucie said:
just a background: 4 years ago, i met my husband/sponsor while i was a temporary worker in canada. his family conspired to get me arrested for false criminal allegations as an effort to end our relationship. i lost my worker's permit. the judge dropped the charges a year later. i continued pursuing my husband despite discouragement from the police, the DA, my family and basically every stranger i speak to about it. people ceaselessly say this relationship will never work.

anyway, my husband and i eloped. we rented an apartment and hid from everyone because everyone's against the marriage. since i had no legal status in canada i decided to go back home to do the outland spousal sponsorship application. 2 years later i got in and my husband doesn't have a job so he made me stay at his parents' home. i didnt want to due to common sense, but he kept tellin me how the reason why i dont want to must be because i want to leave him the moment i step into Canada. which is totally not the case!!! he was also saying how his siblings and friends have all the luxury...and he wants to save money by living at hisparents so he can keep up with that. im really uninterested with that because i was raised with simple standards, but he keeps coming up with reasons to live at his parents'.

after a few days of niceness, my mother in law started nitpicking my every move. she said i don't wash enough dishes, i'm mixing up the pots with the pans, i spray on too mcuh perfume, and all those petty stuff. every week, i even cleaned the bathroom. i did all the dishes consistently as well... her house is actually so messy to think she's a plain house wife.

my husband took back $100 rent from his parents so they started hiding the food and bottled water. i was concerned about her cause she's isolated and maybe that's why it's affecting her attitude so one day i asked her if she wanted my free pass at Goodlife so she can do activities with other people, like by takin zumba classes, and she totally took that chance to cause a fight. I kept asking her why she took offense in that and she kept evading the question and she just went crazy... She just really wanted a reason to kick us out.

SO we left.

My husband doesn't have a job. He's been slacking, making all sorts of reason not to work. He wants a job where he can do nothing and just use his phone. When his car breaks down, he refuses to take the bus. Last time his motor died, my parents gave him money to replace it, and he bought a new car with the money instead. He is too picky. Right now my parents from the Philippines are sending me money and they gave me a few $1000's for startup money in case sh*t hits the fan.


I've been here for not even 3 weeks and I already have a job....and I'm looking to do another part-time because my husband has expensive needs... He doesn't wanna rent a basement, he wants an apartment, which right now we're not even qualified for... I need to find a good career someday because he has unrealistic wants. I don't even know how I'll survive because I'm mentally and physically tired... Without his aunt, I'll be so hungry and thirsty. So right now we're slumming it up at his aunt's house, who has always been a reasonable and understanding relative.

Now, I love my husband despite his inability to be a normal human being, but I can't really do my thing right now because he's getting in the way of my decisions...In the past 4 years all the major decisions in our life were all made by him. He's 22 years old... Yes, I'm retarded for letting him be the primary decision maker, but I didn't have status, no money and he guilt trips me like crazy...

What do I do right now? I'm tired of slumming it up because he can't provide for me and he keeps putting me in risky situations. I'm sick of it. What am I gonna do? Like I think he's sufering from depression or something cause he has no motivation to do anything and he feels tired even when he does is nothing. He shouts like hell and curses so much when I try to bring up something about his behaviour, job, money or whatever. Like this sucks man and there's a condition on my PR saying I have to cohabitate with him, but he cant even affordwhere he wants to live and he doesnt wanna work or anything and I want to be left alone right now because thats the best way I can save money because I dont have expensive needs.
Pray
 

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heybrucie said:
What does condition 51 exactly mean? I wanna rent with roommates so this would mean we would have to live separately. He has high standards and I can't afford where he wants to live. He doesn't have a job. He's picky. His aunt has helped us enough and I would much rather just live on my own and be more flexible since I won't have to rely on my husband for the major decisions. I am older than him by 7 years but he's totally dominating me with the serious decisions and it's really holding us back.
if you can prove neglect of abuse even with the condition you call the regular cic help line number and they can help you apply to lift the condition even if you leave him. but you will need proof.
 

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heybrucie said:
He's totally jealous of his brother cause he received dowry from his future parents in law. Like he was asking for dowry after 2 years of marriage. In the old days, it's done before the wedding. It's now also an illegal practice in India. Plus we're froma different culture. My parents didn't want to pay. But he was totally demanding dowry from my parents. He wants the house and he thinks my parents are gonna give that house to me when they're dead. I don't even care cause I want my parents to live long.
your husband, by sponsoring you agreed to be responsible for you for 3 years. that means provide for you and not neglect or abuse you.
here is a link you can look at.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2012/ob480.asp
 

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soblue3 said:
if you can prove neglect of abuse even with the condition you call the regular cic help line number and they can help you apply to lift the condition even if you leave him. but you will need proof.
Sorry Rob_TO...you are wrong. as above. that's why I suggested keeping the diary, there are ways around the condition 51..it's not ALWAYS automatic.

If CIC enforce Condition 51, then by virtue, they believe the marriage was one of convenience (this was why 51 was enacted in the first place, to combat MOC), to enable the party to get PR, otherwise they lift condition 51 on application if the reasons for leaving the relationship are valid.