INLAND APPLICATIONS 2013

[screech339]

unfortunately this isn't true in Ontario. each province is different. Ontario requires a person to be a landed immigrant, or if applying inland, they to need prove the application is received before going through a lot of red tape to be approved for healthcare. Visitors in ontario are not eligible for OHIP, as it is assumed you are not a resident of canada. also, most employers won't even add foreign spouses to supplemental insurances without total approval or AIP.

Showing AIP to employers to get on spouse on work benefits is not enough. Most or if not all insurance companies through the work place required that the spouse is on provincial health coverage before being granted. In other words, you have to show employer or to insurance companies proof that your spouse is on provincial health coverage.

 

[ortom]

We didnt show any proof when my husband added me to his insurance, also, work health insurance doesn't cover any doctor visits, or emergency care! It only covers meds, dental, thetapy, massage etc. So its not as essential as OHIP

Showing AIP to employers to get on spouse on work benefits is not enough. Most or if not all insurance companies through the work place required that the spouse is on provincial health coverage before being granted. In other words, you have to show employer or to insurance companies proof that your spouse is on provincial health coverage.

 

[rhcohen2014]

We didnt show any proof when my husband added me to his insurance, also, work health insurance doesn't cover any doctor visits, or emergency care! It only covers meds, dental, thetapy, massage etc. So its not as essential as OHIP

it's definitely dependant on the employer then, and what the spouse's status is in canada. as a visitor, i am not able to be added to my husband's supplemental insurance until i land as a pr (he works for a company owned by the city). i assume if he worked for a private company or if someone has a valid work/study permit, and can prove residence in canada, the rules would be different.

 

[ortom]

My husband works for the city as well, and they added me, I do have OHIP, but they never asked if I do or not, never asked for my status here either (pgwp)! Also when I was with my employers insurance, I told them I didnt have OHIP and I was still able to get health insurance! I would say it doesnt matter if you have provincial coverage or not as health insurance from work only covers benefits that are not covered by the province! I would probably call the insurance provider and speak to a supervisor and see if its duable, the plan administrator might not know and they just assume that they need proof of provincial coverafe.

it's definitely dependant on the employer then, and what the spouse's status is in canada. as a visitor, i am not able to be added to my husband's supplemental insurance until i land as a pr (he works for a company owned by the city). i assume if he worked for a private company or if someone has a valid work/study permit, and can prove residence in canada, the rules would be different.

 

[rhcohen2014]

My husband works for the city as well, and they added me, I do have OHIP, but they never asked if I do or not, never asked for my status here either (pgwp)! Also when I was with my employers insurance, I told them I didnt have OHIP and I was still able to get health insurance! I would say it doesnt matter if you have provincial coverage or not as health insurance from work only covers benefits that are not covered by the province! I would probably call the insurance provider and speak to a supervisor and see if its duable, the plan administrator might not know and they just assume that they need proof of provincial coverafe.

the fact i do not have residence in ontario, a sin#, current OHIP coverage, or valid work permit suggests our situations are very different. they can probably confirm you have ohip by just your name and other identifying info, so there was no need to give them "proof" i imagine the insurance company needs more than just your name to give coverage. ie: DOB, current address, age, etc.... something to prove you have the right to the coverage? how would they know it's you or not or if you are currently living in ontario to use the benefits?Again, your OHIP info can probably be verified by the insurance company somehow other than you providing it. in my experience, they won't cover me if i'm not living there and don't have OHIP coverage. i can't understand why any company would, especially the government.

 

[ckwilson93]

Does anyone know if filing a petition for US sponsorship while we're both in Canada would effect our canadian sponsorship at all?
My husband doesn't want to do this anymore, and all I'm doing every day is trying to convince him that we just need to keep waiting through this.. We're December 2013 applicants.

Basically, I guess I'm just wondering if we could file the first step of an American spousal sponsorship package, which is a form that just needs to be approved, takes about a month, without CIC being able to know this? I have no idea how connected our immigration services are. And if our American one didn't get approved, we would obviously have no choice but to continue waiting this out...
Regardless, I am really wondering if waiting another YEAR dealing with this inland misery would be wasted when we could be filing for a complete american visa which is apparently taking less or equal the amount of time..
??? :'(

 

[rhcohen2014]

Does anyone know if filing a petition for US sponsorship while we're both in Canada would effect our canadian sponsorship at all?
My husband doesn't want to do this anymore, and all I'm doing every day is trying to convince him that we just need to keep waiting through this.. We're December 2013 applicants.

Basically, I guess I'm just wondering if we could file the first step of an American spousal sponsorship package, which is a form that just needs to be approved, takes about a month, without CIC being able to know this? I have no idea how connected our immigration services are. And if our American one didn't get approved, we would obviously have no choice but to continue waiting this out...
Regardless, I am really wondering if waiting another YEAR dealing with this inland misery would be wasted when we could be filing for a complete american visa which is apparently taking less or equal the amount of time..
??? :'(

yes, i believe it is possible to apply for a us green card at the same time, and there is no reason for CIC to know about it. i could totally be wrong, but i don't think one has anything to do with the other, nor is the information shared. also, if you intend to do this, that suggests you plan to live in the us? perhaps then you'll want to change your application to outland too and see which approval comes first. may applicants are already seeing approvals, and it may actually be quicker than the us application.

also, i would double check on the residency requirements for both. with a canadian pr, while it's important to prove your intent to settle in canada, it's possible to live in the us with your spouse for a certain amount of time without risk to your pr status. i am not familiar with the requirements for a us green card.

 

[Alurra71]

Does anyone know if filing a petition for US sponsorship while we're both in Canada would effect our canadian sponsorship at all?
My husband doesn't want to do this anymore, and all I'm doing every day is trying to convince him that we just need to keep waiting through this.. We're December 2013 applicants.

Basically, I guess I'm just wondering if we could file the first step of an American spousal sponsorship package, which is a form that just needs to be approved, takes about a month, without CIC being able to know this? I have no idea how connected our immigration services are. And if our American one didn't get approved, we would obviously have no choice but to continue waiting this out...
Regardless, I am really wondering if waiting another YEAR dealing with this inland misery would be wasted when we could be filing for a complete american visa which is apparently taking less or equal the amount of time..
??? :'(

The form you are talking about is the approval so you can actually SEND in for sponsorship. That can take up to a year, and then you would file all the appropriate paperwork for sponsorhip. If your husband has already given up his residence in the US he won't be able to sponsor you until he moves back to the US as a US citizen MUST show residence in the US in order to sponsor a spouse to the US. If he still owns property there, that should suffice.

Green card requirements are 6 of 12 months to retain it. It is not like Canada. If you don't meet the R/O there or appear as if you don't live there, CBP has the right to take your green card from you on the spot and refuse entry.

As I said a few pages back. The wait is a long one and the grass always appears greener on the other side. It might not be so green if you are in the middle of the pasture though. *shrugs*

My 2 cents worth, since you asked in a public forum. You are very likely more than 1/2 completed with this process. Even if your eCas doesn't show it. They are typically quite stingy with all things until suddenly wham, it's AIP/OWP and a day or so later DM.

Oh, one other thing. Your husband will also have to show that he has an income of 125% or more above poverty level in order to sponsor you to the US.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do.

 

[flange12]

So Wednesday, and still nothinng. Darn, I really thought with all those AORs last week that we would start to see some movement this week. Still hoping....

 

[ckwilson93]

The form you are talking about is the approval so you can actually SEND in for sponsorship. That can take up to a year, and then you would file all the appropriate paperwork for sponsorhip. If your husband has already given up his residence in the US he won't be able to sponsor you until he moves back to the US as a US citizen MUST show residence in the US in order to sponsor a spouse to the US. If he still owns property there, that should suffice.

Green card requirements are 6 of 12 months to retain it. It is not like Canada. If you don't meet the R/O there or appear as if you don't live there, CBP has the right to take your green card from you on the spot and refuse entry.

As I said a few pages back. The wait is a long one and the grass always appears greener on the other side. It might not be so green if you are in the middle of the pasture though. *shrugs*

My 2 cents worth, since you asked in a public forum. You are very likely more than 1/2 completed with this process. Even if your eCas doesn't show it. They are typically quite stingy with all things until suddenly wham, it's AIP/OWP and a day or so later DM.

Oh, one other thing. Your husband will also have to show that he has an income of 125% or more above poverty level in order to sponsor you to the US.

Good luck with whatever you choose to do.

Thank you both for the answers.
People have been telling me the US sponsorship is more immediate, quicker, and with more proven results.
I was having a hard time really even believing or considering this, since I heard the same thing about the Canadian one and look where we are now. : i'm sure the grass is the same on both sides. Everyone has to wait.
The thing is, my husband doesn't own anything at all in the US anymore, and has no money to his name.. Actually owes a little bit for a school loan and would probably have a very tough time finding a job that would allow him to meet the minimum income requirement. We're both only 21 and both unskilled workers... :/
Regardless, my opinion on waiting this out only continues to remain the same.

 

[MiriMinBC]

Does anyone know if filing a petition for US sponsorship while we're both in Canada would effect our canadian sponsorship at all?
My husband doesn't want to do this anymore, and all I'm doing every day is trying to convince him that we just need to keep waiting through this.. We're December 2013 applicants.

Basically, I guess I'm just wondering if we could file the first step of an American spousal sponsorship package, which is a form that just needs to be approved, takes about a month, without CIC being able to know this? I have no idea how connected our immigration services are. And if our American one didn't get approved, we would obviously have no choice but to continue waiting this out...
Regardless, I am really wondering if waiting another YEAR dealing with this inland misery would be wasted when we could be filing for a complete american visa which is apparently taking less or equal the amount of time..
??? :'(

A close family friend who is an attorney applied for his green card same time as his wife was getting PR here about 10 years ago and they both were fine. YMMV.

 

[rifat]

hey guys.

anyone who received their pr cards did you receive it after the processing times or within the time frame? we were given 21 days and today marks 21 days on receiving the pr card in the mail but nothing today too...

 

[yata520]

hey guys.

anyone who received their pr cards did you receive it after the processing times or within the time frame? we were given 21 days and today marks 21 days on receiving the pr card in the mail but nothing today too...

i think is 28 days now ...also sometime take more longer

 

[AchankengCrawford]

I am just wondering why it is everyone is talking about their foreign spouses not being able to get a health care card?

As soon as you're married you can add yourself onto your canadian spouses health care account, at least in Alberta.. All you need is your visitor extension. My husband got his own health care number last year, and we just renewed it this week as soon as his new visitor extension came in.

A lot of people are common-law, not married. Also, can you get this if you don't have an extension, just implied status? I spoke with many people here in AB about that and I do not think there is a way for my partner to get and AHC card.

 

[thegorchess]

the fact i do not have residence in ontario, a sin#, current OHIP coverage, or valid work permit suggests our situations are very different.

My husband is in the exact same situation as you, but is covered by my plan. They didn't ask for anything beyond his name. He has been using it for a year for dental work.

I think you are just unfortunate to be associated with a company that looks in to such matters. With over 10,000 on our plan I do not think our company has time to investigate.