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Linden

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flowergirl2014 said:
beholder69, You mean that CIC allow to work under implied status but CBSA don't allow working under implied status?
Could you tell me how CBSA knew that your 2 friends was working under implied status? Do you know?
You are allowed to work under implied status. CIC AND CBSA both recognize this but beholder's friends were incorrect about their implied status because they were on IEC which you cannot get implied status from.

CBSA might have just done the workplace investigation in this case
 

bankerguy

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Jun 6, 2013
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Category........
Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
13/09/2013
Doc's Request.
sent with app - app received Sept 18, 2013
AOR Received.
04/10/13
IELTS Request
n/a
File Transfer...
V --> M OWP received Jan 9th (pilot program)
Med's Request
AIP Feb 25/2015 & DM FEB 27/2015
Med's Done....
Sent with app
Interview........
March 18, 2015
I've read the last few pages of this thread because i sponsored my common-law partner and she's on a pgwp

we applied mid september and her permit expires Nov 24th i think.

I do not believe that we will get AIP / work permit before Nov 24th..

Can she continue to work????? i sure hope so. She has an awesome job as a teacher for special ed. kids...

I called the CIC 3 times in the last 6 months and each time they said that she CAN still continue to work.

NOW..i know that the CIC agents dont always have correct information... BUT... her sin expires Nov 24th.. and her job is asking her to provide a new sin or something that says she can continue to work.

I am going to call the cic next week and ask for a letter stating that she is covered under implied status

ive read a few times on these forums that some pepole HAVE infact gotten this letter ... can someoen PLEASE private msg me..i would love to see that letter or read the wording of it... i want to know exactly what i'm asking for. I dont think anyone has ever actually posted this letter that explains that PGWP is covered under Implied status if a OWP is applied for before the pgwp expires... ive seen AIP DM example letters but never the 'golden' letter (as some people call it on here) explaining that someone with a pgwp is covered under implied status

Thanks guys.
 

beholder69

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Linden said:
You are allowed to work under implied status. CIC AND CBSA both recognize this but beholder's friends were incorrect about their implied status because they were on IEC which you cannot get implied status from.

CBSA might have just done the workplace investigation in this case
Yep, you're right, I guess that was a good possibility as well
 

kismetfatum

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Jun 2, 2014
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bankerguy said:
I've read the last few pages of this thread because i sponsored my common-law partner and she's on a pgwp

we applied mid september and her permit expires Nov 24th i think.

I do not believe that we will get AIP / work permit before Nov 24th..

Can she continue to work????? i sure hope so. She has an awesome job as a teacher for special ed. kids...

I called the CIC 3 times in the last 6 months and each time they said that she CAN still continue to work.

NOW..i know that the CIC agents dont always have correct information... BUT... her sin expires Nov 24th.. and her job is asking her to provide a new sin or something that says she can continue to work.

I am going to call the cic next week and ask for a letter stating that she is covered under implied status

ive read a few times on these forums that some pepole HAVE infact gotten this letter ... can someoen PLEASE private msg me..i would love to see that letter or read the wording of it... i want to know exactly what i'm asking for. I dont think anyone has ever actually posted this letter that explains that PGWP is covered under Implied status if a OWP is applied for before the pgwp expires... ive seen AIP DM example letters but never the 'golden' letter (as some people call it on here) explaining that someone with a pgwp is covered under implied status

Thanks guys.
Hi bankerguy, I am in a similar situation and CIC has told me the same, you can continue to work on PGWP. I am no expert and also understand that CIC call agents sometimes get things wrong, but I'm hoping to get my AIP before my PGWP expires October 2014. I called again yesterday to CIC and they sent me an email with two links, one where it explains about "implied status" and one from the Service Canada in regards to SIN numbers starting with 9. Here is that link, the agent suggested I give this to my employer if they ask for renewal of my SIN and I don't have it yet...take a look, your common law might be able to use this... http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/sin/employers/expiry.shtml

Again, I am no expert and don't want to suggest I am right or wrong, I know other people around here have a different opinion/experiences, I am just saying what CIC has told me on the phone. I also have an immigration lawyer who has confirmed this with me over and over again. So, HOPEFULLY they are right.

Hope this helps,
 

RRSweet

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Aug 23, 2013
186
8
Category........
Visa Office......
Vegreville
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-07-2013
AOR Received.
22-08-2013
Med's Request
sent with app
Med's Done....
10-07-2013
Interview........
AIP: August 8, 2014 OWP Received August 15, 2014 Decision Made: Jan. 26, 2015
LANDED..........
12-02-2015
Well folks ....another Friday has arrived. I have not heard anything from CIC as yet and I'm a July 29th applicant. I hope and pray by today's end we hear good news and a big jump is seen on the processing times ! Here's to faith! :D ::) :-X
 

screech339

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Apr 2, 2013
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App. Filed.......
14-08-2012
AOR Received.
20-11-2012
Med's Done....
18-07-2012
Interview........
17-06-2013
LANDED..........
17-06-2013
bellomeanshalo said:
hi everybody im new to this bbs......
just wanna share my story.. its kinda complicate
i applied the family sponsorship inland on Jan, 2013
and they got my application and start working on it on Feb 17th, 2013
and then i got my aip and dm at the same time on dec 21, 2013
and at that time that email says my case has been transfer to scarbrough office so they will contact me blah blah
and i got the landing interview letter on Jan 6th 2014 which i didnt expect that fast and they got me landing interview on feb 2th 2014, however me and my wife wasnt in the country so we asked our lawyer to reschudle the time for me.
and then things happen... we back to canada on feb 10th something 2013, and then were waiting for the second letter for the landing interview. and until march 1st 2013 i still didnt recieve any letter from cic but an email saying that i failed to show up the second interview which they set on feb 25th.. 2013. so my case has been closed. however i never got any letter from them since the first one then. so i wrote a letter to complain but got no reply.
i was so sad at that moment but still they ask me to reapply again. so i did all those steps again ( body check and pay for the fee etc) on this may 10th 2014
and what surprise me is i got the dm letter again this week which saying that my case completed the office in etocbicoke will contact me this time. again!! but no aip letter lol guess because they sent me already on last year dec 27th.so i called the cic call center and ask how would that happen thats the way so fast cuz i was expecting wait for another year lol.. and they told me they didnt start a new application for me actualy just reopen it. so yea.. my question is, do you guys know how long it would usually take until the etobicoke office contact me for the landing interview? thanks

and wish you guys all good lucK!
I am glad that things worked out for you in the end despite the troubles you went through.

The morale of your posting: Do not miss your inland Landing interview whenever possible.

Screech339
 

PRsoon

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Nov 13, 2013
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16-08-2013
AOR Received.
10-09-2013
bankerguy said:
I've read the last few pages of this thread because i sponsored my common-law partner and she's on a pgwp

we applied mid september and her permit expires Nov 24th i think.

I do not believe that we will get AIP / work permit before Nov 24th..

Can she continue to work????? i sure hope so. She has an awesome job as a teacher for special ed. kids...

I called the CIC 3 times in the last 6 months and each time they said that she CAN still continue to work.

NOW..i know that the CIC agents dont always have correct information... BUT... her sin expires Nov 24th.. and her job is asking her to provide a new sin or something that says she can continue to work.

I am going to call the cic next week and ask for a letter stating that she is covered under implied status

ive read a few times on these forums that some pepole HAVE infact gotten this letter ... can someoen PLEASE private msg me..i would love to see that letter or read the wording of it... i want to know exactly what i'm asking for. I dont think anyone has ever actually posted this letter that explains that PGWP is covered under Implied status if a OWP is applied for before the pgwp expires... ive seen AIP DM example letters but never the 'golden' letter (as some people call it on here) explaining that someone with a pgwp is covered under implied status

Thanks guys.
Implied status for PGWP is the most controversial topic in this forum. Every month there is a heated debate about this. In the end you are the one who has to make the decision to continue working or not.

Here are my two cents: Yes, in my opinion PGWP it is indeed eligible for implied status. That means you DO NOT need to quit your job. I base my opinion in the fact that the PGWP is considered a type of open work permit by any CIC agent or immigration officer that you might speak with.

Also I received an email from CIC stating very clearly the exceptions to the implied status, which are the international youth programs. Here is the full email I received from CIC and I am highlighting the exceptions to the implied status:



"Implied Status - Temporary Residents

As a temporary resident (TR), if you send your application for an extension of your authorization to remain in Canada at the latest on the expiry date of your status, you will be considered in status as a TR until a decision is made on the application. This is known as an Implied Status*.

If you hold a work permit or a study permit, you can continue working or studying under the conditions of your previous permit if you have applied to extend your stay in Canada under the same category. However, if you have applied to extend your stay under another category, you must stop working or studying.

If you leave Canada while under implied status, you may be authorized to:

Re-enter Canada as a TR, if the Case Processing Centre (CPC) has not yet made a decision on your application to extend your work permit. Please note that you will not be permitted to work/study until you receive your new permit. You must satisfy the officer at the port of entry (POE) that you have sufficient means of support. This applies if you:
are temporary resident visa (TRV) exempt;
held a valid multiple-entry visa before leaving Canada; or
travelled only to the United States** and/or St.Pierre and Miquelon by the end of the period initially authorized for their stay or any extension to it;
Re-enter Canada as a worker/student, if the officer at the POE determines that your application to extend your work/study permit was approved by the CPC while you were outside Canada;
or
Apply for a new work/study permit at the POE provided you have the right to do so under the Regulations.
For more information on implied status, please consult the Operational Manual - Overseas Processing (OP 11) - Section 24.

* Participants in international youth exchange programs (e.g., Student Work Abroad Program (SWAP), International Experience Canada (IEC) or Working Holiday Program (WHP)) do not benefit from implied status, unless extending a work permit not initially issued for the time limit authorized by the program.

**Including its Territories and Possessions."
 

screech339

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17-06-2013
lellen said:
But I got it in writing FROM the CIC agent I talked to on the phone. If you can't trust call center agents, who CAN you trust?
They ARE CIC, they're our only contact with CIC. If they have told you this about IEC, then you should trust THEM.
PGWP is not extendable as well. Lady on the phone told me back then: you can't extend your PGWP, it's a one time thing, you have to apply for a new closed work permit. BUT if you apply, you can continue to work under implied status while the new permit is processed. So it has nothing to do with extension, like they told you.

How do you know the IEC is false info then? How did people get in trouble? Maybe they weren't on implied status while they were working. If most people who have called CIC have been told the same thing, it's probably not false, just saying. I haven't had any experience with IEC whatsoever so I don't really know the right answer. But let's be a little bit more trusting of the call centre, scepticism is OK but seriously...
How can you have it in writing when it is all verbal between you and CIC call agent? Is it written down in an official letter from CIC themselves addressed to you. If you do have it, please post the letter in the forum. CIC or CBSA will not accept your defense of CIC call agent told me otherwise as an excuse. It is your word against theirs.

The issue regarding PGWP is that because it is not extendable, it does not get “implied status”. This assumption comes from the same reasoning why IEC does not get “implied status” either. Both IEC and PGWP are not extendable, used only once.

People have brought up the “Bridging to OWP”. If you search the CIC website on that, you will notice that it only deals with economic category. (FSWP), (CEC), (PNP), (FSTP). Notice that it does not mention PGWP anywhere.

I still believe that PGWP does not get “implied status” status due to it being not an extendable visa. I will continue to advise others that PGWP does not get it but I always follow it that it is not settled and still up for debate.

We have debated over IEC and “implied status” for quite a while only because there was no official statement from CIC saying that IEC does not get “implied status”. The debate went on until someone posted an official letter addressing to an applicant on the forum that IEC does not get “implied status”. Once that was posted, the issue was finally settled and official. IEC does NOT get “implied status”. Unfortunately the letter did not address the “PGWP” in the letter as the letter only dealt with the issue of IEC only.

So until someone like bankerguy or any applicant under PGWP writes to CIC asking specifically about PGWP and “implied status” under spousal PR sponsorship. Does PGWP get it? If it does, under what conditions PGWP must be to get the “implied status”. Explain in question that if applicant with a valid PGWP visa, submit OWP with spousal PR sponsorship WITHIN Canada, does PGWP get implied status until OWP is granted. Be specific in the question.

I tried to write an email asking CIC this specific issue. I get an automatic response that they will not answer the question unless my PR sponsorship is progress and active and related to specifically to my PR sponsorship. Since my PR sponsorship is completed at the time of writing the email to them, I really couldn’t get an answer then. If my PR sponsorship was active, the question would still not get addressed as my wife was not on PGWP at the time. They will not likely answer the PGWP question as my wife was not on it. Why answer the question if it has no bearing on my wife’s PR application.

PGWP and “implied status” debate will continue until someone posted an official letter from CIC that will settle the issue once and for all.

Screech339
 

April Fajardo

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Dec 2, 2013
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App. Filed.......
Dec 5, 2013
AOR Received.
Jan 12, 2014
File Transfer...
Mar 9, 2014
Med's Done....
July 9, 2014
Interview........
Aug 24, 2015
LANDED..........
Aug 24, 2015
ATIP case notes received in my email.
14 pages
Mostly not started
 

ACS

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May 30, 2013
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Pre-Assessed..
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14-08-2013
Doc's Request.
SA 06-11-2014/AIP 17-11-2014
AOR Received.
26-09-2013 (didn't get email-called CIC)
Med's Request
Sent With
Med's Done....
03-06-2013
Interview........
DM 02-02-2014
April Fajardo said:
ATIP case notes received in my email.
14 pages
Mostly not started
Oops my apologies I saw your post in the 2014 thread and thought you were a 2014 Applicant.

Very frustrating this situation! I thought for sure we would have a bunch of notes on our file as well...... :(
 

Princess029

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None
File Transfer...
March 2014
Here is a story, one of my friend received a letter first time she came to Canada under TFW program and then her employer tried to renew her LMO several times but no luck to get the positive LMO. And then she was over staying in Canada because her LMO was on process and also refused to get her restoration or extention to stay while the LMO isnon process but still no luck until she finally received the letter from CIC that she has to leave Canada immediately which is she did. And now she came back as a TFW and get married to her BF before she left yo her home country. And so now, When it comes to a Landing interview. What would be the right answer if the officer will ask her. "Have you been told to leave the country"? (Canada)
Where they only need yes or no answer.
 

Ponga

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Princess029 said:
Here is a story, one of my friend received a letter first time she came to Canada under TFW program and then her employer tried to renew her LMO several times but no luck to get the positive LMO. And then she was over staying in Canada because her LMO was on process and also refused to get her restoration or extention to stay while the LMO isnon process but still no luck until she finally received the letter from CIC that she has to leave Canada immediately which is she did. And now she came back as a TFW and get married to her BF before she left yo her home country. And so now, When it comes to a Landing interview. What would be the right answer if the officer will ask her. "Have you been told to leave the country"? (Canada)
Where they only need yes or no answer.
I'm not sure that the officer would ask that question at the landing interview, but if s/he does, the ONLY answer that should be given is the correct answer; Yes.

If the officer wants an explanation, she would obviously reveal the details.
 

Princess029

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March 2014
Then what if she doesn't need any explanation? Does is cause her a red flag.even she already approved or something? +