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Dr Eng X

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Deficient said:
It might be because carrying out background checks on different people from different countries takes different amounts of time, etc. CIC will be dealing with different agencies or bodies to do these checks depending on where you're coming from. I think it wouldn't be helpful to quote a 10 month processing time to people if a typical application from a person from a certain country takes far longer just due to the background checks. All that would happen is CIC would be deluged with enquiries about applications taking longer than 10 months, where 10 months was never a realistic timeframe for certain applications. If that makes sense.

At least that's the only explanation I can think of, I think it makes sense?
They have not even started processing the file to begin with...it has nothing what so ever to do with what you say
 

Deficient

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London
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27/02/2012
Doc's Request.
11/07/2012 [CSQ]
File Transfer...
08/06/2012
Med's Request
Signature has med furtherance details
Med's Done....
10/02/2012
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
01/11/2012
Dr Eng X said:
They have not even started processing the file to begin with...it has nothing what so ever to do with what you say
Ah OK I wasn't aware that they are delaying in even starting processing.

I suppose it depends on whether there is a similar delay in other files from other countries that are moved to the Ottawa office at the same time?

But yes, it is definitely unfair that they would delay in starting some files on the basis that they would have taken much longer anyway, especially if you consider that there may be legit reasons for why processing tended to take so long at their original visa office (like the kind of thing I was saying) because then those files would be doubly delayed at Ottawa. Very unfair.
 

Dr Eng X

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Ah OK I wasn't aware that they are delaying in even starting processing.

I suppose it depends on whether there is a similar delay in other files from other countries that are moved to the Ottawa office at the same time?

But yes, it is definitely unfair that they would delay in starting some files on the basis that they would have taken much longer anyway, especially if you consider that there may be legit reasons for why processing tended to take so long at their original visa office (like the kind of thing I was saying) because then those files would be doubly delayed at Ottawa. Very unfair.
All those applied last year, received a response after 2months from Ottawa, then all these things (you talk about) would start. They finished within the posted processing times. In my case, the file is empty with NOT STARTED all over. They are holding files for what??? According to almost all responses ... CPP-Ottawa doesn't do anything maybe check the relationship then recommend either an interview or no interview. Checking proof of relationship in itself is wrong, it is a cultural based, therefore it is supposedly the job for VO "country based" sepcially if it is a completely different culture!!!
 

BCgirl2012

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18-04-2013
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01-05-2013
Well, I was actually thinking about this today. I guess I've done too much optimization so my mind is stuck with analyzing processes :)
Anyways, I was wondering, suppose we have:

Case A from country A with the announced processing time of 10 months.
Case B from country B with the announce processing time of 15 months.
Case C from country C with the announced processing time of 5 months.

CIC decided to:
1. Transfer a portion of the files from country A's VO to CPC-O to help them with their backlog
2. Same with country B's files
3. Close the processing center in country C and transfer all the files for processing to CPC-O

CIC also announces that in processing the files from country A and B in CPC-O they will honour the respective processing times of 10 and 15 months.

So, here's my dilemma. Those numbers are published statistics, but I get the feeling that sometimes they are regarded as targets- which is very different. Plus, the files were transferred to help with the backlog, so if we actually target the same processing time as with the original VO, then I'm not sure if we are accomplishing much. Here's why- system will look underloaded. So it will seem that CPC-O still has capacity for more files.

I don't think they would say: let's keep those files in storage now, since their original timeline is 15 months, and it's been only 2 months (for example) from their transfer time. So the question would be: how do they keep the processing time comparable to the original VO?

Now, I have no idea how they choose which files to transfer to CPC-O and which files to keep in the original VO. But I have a feeling that it's a batch/queue system, not just a queue system.

My over-analyzed two cents :)
 

Dr Eng X

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BCgirl2012 said:
Well, I was actually thinking about this today. I guess I've done too much optimization so my mind is stuck with analyzing processes :)
Anyways, I was wondering, suppose we have:

Case A from country A with the announced processing time of 10 months.
Case B from country B with the announce processing time of 15 months.
Case C from country C with the announced processing time of 5 months.

CIC decided to:
1. Transfer a portion of the files from country A's VO to CPC-O to help them with their backlog
2. Same with country B's files
3. Close the processing center in country C and transfer all the files for processing to CPC-O

CIC also announces that in processing the files from country A and B in CPC-O they will honour the respective processing times of 10 and 15 months.

So, here's my dilemma. Those numbers are published statistics, but I get the feeling that sometimes they are regarded as targets- which is very different. Plus, the files were transferred to help with the backlog, so if we actually target the same processing time as with the original VO, then I'm not sure if we are accomplishing much. Here's why- system will look underloaded. So it will seem that CPC-O still has capacity for more files.

I don't think they would say: let's keep those files in storage now, since their original timeline is 15 months, and it's been only 2 months (for example) from their transfer time. So the question would be: how do they keep the processing time comparable to the original VO?

Now, I have no idea how they choose which files to transfer to CPC-O and which files to keep in the original VO. But I have a feeling that it's a batch/queue system, not just a queue system.

My over-analyzed two cents :)
Sorry to tell you this is CIC, there are no rules, consistency, ...or anything. I checked some people from Islamabad (applied after me) who had their file transfer to Ottawa has been fortunate to receive Visa! Islamabad waiting times are among the highest
There are no real rules.
Also, there are who applied in Feb and their Visa office is US and still did not get it!
Sorry but you can't logic the unlogic!
 

BCgirl2012

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Dr Eng X said:
Sorry to tell you this is CIC, there are no rules, consistency, ...or anything. I checked some people from Islamabad (applied after me) who had their file transfer to Ottawa has been fortunate to receive Visa! Islamabad waiting times are among the highest
There are no real rules.
Also, there are who applied in Feb and their Visa office is US and still did not get it!
Sorry but you can't logic the unlogic!
This whole process sucks! I just wish our family to live in one place!

On a different note, I receive a new set of notes today (two weeks earlier than expected) and they are generated today. Very nice!

However, there's no movement, no change, nothing. Absolutely no update. What buggles my mind is that there's also no record of the communication we've had with the VO a couple of weeks ago. I thought they should record incoming and outgoing communication in the system?
 

Dr Eng X

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BCgirl2012 said:
This whole process sucks! I just wish our family to live in one place!

On a different note, I receive a new set of notes today (two weeks earlier than expected) and they are generated today. Very nice!

However, there's no movement, no change, nothing. Absolutely no update. What buggles my mind is that there's also no record of the communication we've had with the VO a couple of weeks ago. I thought they should record incoming and outgoing communication in the system?
It could be the old notes!
 

sweetgrl896

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INSHALLAH VERY SOON IN NOVEMBER 2012
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INSHALLAH IN 1ST WEEK OF DECEMBER. PLX ALLAH PAK HELP ME.
can anyone tell me how i can apply for gcms notes? i have only one file no started with b...........
how i can apply? i ordred caip by using mu file num started with B.......
 

Deficient

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08/06/2012
Med's Request
Signature has med furtherance details
Med's Done....
10/02/2012
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
01/11/2012
BCgirl2012 said:
This whole process sucks! I just wish our family to live in one place!

On a different note, I receive a new set of notes today (two weeks earlier than expected) and they are generated today. Very nice!

However, there's no movement, no change, nothing. Absolutely no update. What buggles my mind is that there's also no record of the communication we've had with the VO a couple of weeks ago. I thought they should record incoming and outgoing communication in the system?
My notes don't record any incoming communications from me to CIC either and I have had many communications with them.
 

CanPak05

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18-12-2012 :) :)
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Good day,

I recently received a report by using the "ACCESS TO INFORMATION AND PERSONAL INFORMATION REQUEST" form IMM5563. The report i received was CAIPS, same format as previous reports ordered in mid 2011 and nothing like the templates shown on this thread.

Is our application pre-GCMS and will remain in CAIPS form? How can I reqest a GCMS format?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can clarify.
 

BCgirl2012

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18-04-2013
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01-05-2013
Deficient said:
My notes don't record any incoming communications from me to CIC either and I have had many communications with them.
Oh thank you so much for sharing this. I read your file is coming to a conclusion! That's great news! Hopefully it's gonna be any day now, and I must admit I am hoping the same for us, too :)
 

BCgirl2012

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Dr Eng X said:
It could be the old notes!
Unfortunately, it's the new one. It has the GCMS requests, including my last one, but not any communication records from us.
It seems they don't always keep a record of communications.
 

Dr Eng X

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BCgirl2012 said:
Unfortunately, it's the new one. It has the GCMS requests, including my last one, but not any communication records from us.
It seems they don't always keep a record of communications.
I misunderstood you. I thought it did not show your previous GCMS request(s). That is true, it doesn't show all communication, it seems to have only the things they need or conisder ...
 

BCgirl2012

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04-07-2012
Med's Done....
16-12-2011
Passport Req..
18-04-2013
VISA ISSUED...
01-05-2013
Dr Eng X said:
I misunderstood you. I thought it did not show your previous GCMS request(s). That is true, it doesn't show all communication, it seems to have only the things they need or conisder ...
No worries. If that's the case maybe I'll send it again- from our perspective it was a pretty important document.
 

Dr Eng X

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BCgirl2012 said:
No worries. If that's the case maybe I'll send it again- from our perspective it was a pretty important document.
I did the same thing however I'll wait for next GCMS to see if they added it