GUIDES TO GCMS

[Dr Eng X]

Are there some rules for officers to recommend for an interview or not? (other than their gut feeling of the genuineness of the relation)

 

[computergeek]

Are there some rules for officers to recommend for an interview or not? (other than their gut feeling of the genuineness of the relation)

There are the CIC manuals, yes. The best to consider is "OP 2 Processing Members of the Family Class". Section 12 deals with relationship issues.

Officers must form an opinion based on factors which, taken together, could lead a reasonably
prudent person to conclude that a relationship was not genuine and was entered into for
immigration purposes. It is important for officers to examine the particular circumstances of a
relationship and to assess it in the context of the cultural norms of the country.

Old immigration files can provide clues as to whether a relationship is genuine. They may contain
evidence that the parties are related to a degree that precludes marriage, a common-law
relationship or conjugal partner relationship.

Even IP 8 (inland spousal/partner class) refers back to OP 2 (Section 5, which then refers to Section 12). There's quite a bit more text here, but it's still a set of general guidelines for the officers to follow.

 

[Dr Eng X]

There are the CIC manuals, yes. The best to consider is "OP 2 Processing Members of the Family Class". Section 12 deals with relationship issues.

Even IP 8 (inland spousal/partner class) refers back to OP 2 (Section 5, which then refers to Section 12). There's quite a bit more text here, but it's still a set of general guidelines for the officers to follow.

Thanks, at first I thought local VO are responsible of assessing the genuineness of the relation (most will understand the cultural, local customs,...etc. better)
now after knowing it is not local VO in addition to reading those sections I do not see solid rules...it's more of gut feelings!

 

[computergeek]

Thanks, at first I thought local VO are responsible of assessing the genuineness of the relation (most will understand the cultural, local customs,...etc. better)
now after knowing it is not local VO in addition to reading those sections I do not see solid rules...it's more of gut feelings!

For outland spousal it's really both CPC-M (as part of sponsor approval) and the outland VO.

I must admit, since Ottawa did our case, I find it humorous to think that Ottawa as "outside Canada".

 

[Dr Eng X]

For outland spousal it's really both CPC-M (as part of sponsor approval) and the outland VO.

I must admit, since Ottawa did our case, I find it humorous to think that Ottawa as "outside Canada".

add to the humor considering Ottawa as an outside Canada office representing Islamabad, Cairo, Istanbul (a totally different culture)

 

[noor kaur]

NOTE 6 SAYScscd as incorrect VO post listed in IMM1017 what does this meanssss......... ?????????

 

[computergeek]

NOTE 6 SAYScscd as incorrect VO post listed in IMM1017 what does this meanssss......... ?????????

IMM 1017 = "medical examination receipt". Thus, it says that the wrong visa office was written on the IMM 1017 form.

 

[pinder123]

I am not sure when i googled it looks like it is the form that the physician has to fill out after the medical is done.....the form that we submitted along with the application had ND as the VO so that part was not wrong for sure.....

NOTE 6 SAYScscd as incorrect VO post listed in IMM1017 what does this meanssss......... ?????????

 

[BCgirl2012]

I am with you on that depressing feeling. Don't get me wrong, I am happy to now be in Canada (been here for a month) and so grateful that my nationality allows this to be so. But I can't help but dwell on the fact that my app was basically approved 12 weeks ago and all the medical stuff is holding everything up for such a long time.

I cannot work or take classes or anything! I am thrilled to be here with my husband but for now, while I wait for CIC to do their thing, I am deprived of anything else that makes life worthwhile. It's hard and I feel a little isolated and borderline miserable about that. My husband is very understanding and is trying to get us 'out and about', he's so great.

Anyway, I'll try not to make this any more self-pitying. We're all in a hard place, I just wanted to empathise about how difficult it is to have your future in someone else's hands, and not knowing for how long. It's a drag, absolutely.

I cast my eye over my GCMS notes again tonight in case I had any lightbulb moments concerning some of the acronyms/abbreviations and such. I think it's pretty safe to say that TFR stands for 'transfer', the context I see it in always seems to suggest transfers. I even used that abbreviation myself in my (non-immigration-related) line of work back home.

But I've no other insights right now.

I agree. We all have our challenges, whether our partners are living with us or we are apart. Though I sometimes feel I'll burn my earphones and uninstall Skype for a year as soon as my husband lands though it might be quite a few months away.

What you are describing is actually quite understandably very stressful. I get a tiny glimpse of a sideliner every time that go for a visit to my husband's country. Don't get me wrong, Georgia is wonderful. But I am not fluent in Georgian, or Russian (I can order food, talk to taxis, and buy groceries- that's it) so I never feel as if I am fully participating. Plus, I can't expect people to conduct the whole set of conversations in a social setup in my language just because I am there. They do try though. And I go there just for a visit. I can imagine if someone would tell me to stay put for sometime without doing anything- no work, no studies, nothing, I would turn into a very unhappy bunny pretty soon.
Which makes me think: is it possible for you to participate in some sort of a volunteering activity? Or perhaps to learn a new language or craft or something? I am sure you've been thinking about these but just thought to chime in and make a few suggestions.
Enjoy your time with your husband

 

[BCgirl2012]

I'm wondering if you guys see any entries for the relationship documents coming in? After seeing a couple of files not being transfered and/or lost this week, I'm starting to worry! :-\

 

[mrs zawar]

just wanted to ask one quoestion here in this thread.i applied my gcms noted in sep11 and today is 43 day and no response yet/this is my second time applying for it.first time i got the reply in 37 days but this time is longer.do you guys have any idea what is going on?
just to give you a background by telling you that i did try to call them email them but all in vain no answer at all.what should i do? ???
any suggestions would be appreciated

 

[Dr Eng X]

I'm wondering if you guys see any entries for the relationship documents coming in? After seeing a couple of files not being transfered and/or lost this week, I'm starting to worry! :-\

I don't understand your question!

 

[BCgirl2012]

I don't understand your question!

Well, I have entries regarding the file transfer, but in the spirit of pointlessly worrying (!) I was wondering if I should see in the "incoming" section something about the proof of relationship stuff coming in to the VO? Same way that we see entries there for IMM1344A, for example.

I'm actually quite worried- I have seen a few people whose files were transferred after us to be "In Process" on their eCAS now. But on our GCMS cards we don't have anything started at all. So I'm trying to figure if our file has been lost?

 

[Dr Eng X]

Well, I have entries regarding the file transfer, but in the spirit of pointlessly worrying (!) I was wondering if I should see in the "incoming" section something about the proof of relationship stuff coming in to the VO? Same way that we see entries there for IMM1344A, for example.

I'm actually quite worried- I have seen a few people whose files were transferred after us to be "In Process" on their eCAS now. But on our GCMS cards we don't have anything started at all. So I'm trying to figure if our file has been lost?

Don't worry!
I had under incoming section proof of relationship with NOT STARTED...

 

[Deficient]

Well, I have entries regarding the file transfer, but in the spirit of pointlessly worrying (!) I was wondering if I should see in the "incoming" section something about the proof of relationship stuff coming in to the VO? Same way that we see entries there for IMM1344A, for example.

I'm actually quite worried- I have seen a few people whose files were transferred after us to be "In Process" on their eCAS now. But on our GCMS cards we don't have anything started at all. So I'm trying to figure if our file has been lost?

My incoming section shows "SPR information" incoming on the date that sponsor approval was granted, and then "IMM1344A SA & Undertaking" incoming a little under a month later. Nothing else.

In my case I can confirm they have seen my relationship info because that part of my application has been approved. It sounds like there's nothing missing in that section of your notes that should give you cause for concern.