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Lord_Tony

Hero Member
Mar 7, 2023
872
454
Toronto
Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
0213
App. Filed.......
25-03-2023
AOR Received.
07-05-2023
Med's Done....
15-05-2023
VISA ISSUED...
15-12-2023
I have had an Australian PR. Never went there because their employers were shit and I love winter.

Look at my chart above.

Also remember, Australia give max point for age from 25-33. So spending time outside of australia can also increase your points.
My biggest problem was the age I was 37 when I graduated ;). But still after seeing Canada, I feel Australia point reduction due to age is much better IRCC policy, can be quickly offset with relevant experience. My doom was a combination of Age, not continuing work in area of study and foolishness of trusting employer and waiting.
 
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GandiBaat

VIP Member
Dec 23, 2014
3,704
2,990
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
26th September 2021
Doc's Request.
Old Medical
Nomination.....
None
AOR Received.
26th September 2021
IELTS Request
Sent with application
File Transfer...
11-01-2022
Med's Request
Not Applicable, Old Meds
Med's Done....
Old Medical
Interview........
Not Applicable
Passport Req..
22-02-2022
VISA ISSUED...
22-02-2022
LANDED..........
24-02-2022
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GandiBaat

VIP Member
Dec 23, 2014
3,704
2,990
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
26th September 2021
Doc's Request.
Old Medical
Nomination.....
None
AOR Received.
26th September 2021
IELTS Request
Sent with application
File Transfer...
11-01-2022
Med's Request
Not Applicable, Old Meds
Med's Done....
Old Medical
Interview........
Not Applicable
Passport Req..
22-02-2022
VISA ISSUED...
22-02-2022
LANDED..........
24-02-2022
True, however sadly most IT degrees don't guarantee IT jobs. Even worse often the most IT employer(s) expectation is the grad/post-grad must join at Analyst roles with low pay is like 50k. A pay like that is not good to self sustain let alone support a family like mine. If one is under 30 they might survive with that pay. Those like me who had loads of experience prior can try getting into their old line of work to survive.
Very few fresh IT graduates make it into IT roles / later PR. As a hiring manager what I have seen is most of those who take those analyst jobs are spouses/partners of existing PR, are switching stream to IT for future potential money, and are ok to take entry level IT jobs as the spouse is already earning in a good or driving a Cab :p. There also a lot of them claim false abroad experience, lack of which shows when they start working.
Believe it or not, thats exactly the reason I did not immediately move to Oz. I wanted to go there with a job. I interviewed with few companies, sitting in India itself. Qantas (they were ready to hire me), WestPac (they ghosted) and then my current employer. They hired me for India but I knew I could switch team in an year.

Entering Oz job market by study or directly resets your career. I wanted to avoid it.
 
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GandiBaat

VIP Member
Dec 23, 2014
3,704
2,990
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
26th September 2021
Doc's Request.
Old Medical
Nomination.....
None
AOR Received.
26th September 2021
IELTS Request
Sent with application
File Transfer...
11-01-2022
Med's Request
Not Applicable, Old Meds
Med's Done....
Old Medical
Interview........
Not Applicable
Passport Req..
22-02-2022
VISA ISSUED...
22-02-2022
LANDED..........
24-02-2022
The Huntsman are not that common believe me, the worst are the small spiders e.g. Funnel-web which look like a regular Wall spider but a sting can send you to Paradise. Snakes on the other hand are more common though, I have seen many in parks on Lawns etc..
Man! My worst fears are seeing red on a spider. Sydney funnel web is one heck of a scary spider.
 
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qdee

Star Member
Mar 24, 2023
148
75
Category........
PNP
AOR Received.
28-04-2023
I just hear excuses.

Not everything is about labour shortages, and there are no serious enough concerns that they can't be address with sound policies.

These are just excuses to keep this unsustainable system in place, and have no limits on immigration, and just let everyone in and ruin the country.

I'm not buying it for a second, nor are most people who know what the situation is.

We can always experiment and fine tune over time, and figure out the kinks. But saying this is tough to solve so let's do nothing makes no sense. Those are the sentiments of people who don't want to fix the problem.
I'm saying a per country visa cap sounds like a bad idea. I'm not saying we should do nothing.

Protesting your local government to raise the bar on DLI accreditation sounds like a good idea to me.
 

iSaidGoodDay

VIP Member
Feb 3, 2023
4,457
2,380
Kaneda
Meh, it’s already hard for someone in status to make a living. Being out of status where you only get shit jobs, have no chance for a PR anymore and can’t use the benefits. They will probably give up sooner or later. Sucks for the pets though.
What you are saying makes sense and I see similar response from other forum members too. I hope it turns out this way and they leave organically.
 
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Lord_Tony

Hero Member
Mar 7, 2023
872
454
Toronto
Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
0213
App. Filed.......
25-03-2023
AOR Received.
07-05-2023
Med's Done....
15-05-2023
VISA ISSUED...
15-12-2023
Believe it or not, thats exactly the reason I did not immediately move to Oz. I wanted to go there with a job. I interviewed with few companies, sitting in India itself. Qantas (they were ready to hire me), WestPac (they ghosted) and then my current employer. They hired me for India but I knew I could switch team in an year.

Entering Oz job market by study or directly resets your career. I wanted to avoid it.
I can fully get what you say and can imagine your struggle if you were not willing to take those entry level roles
- Core techies or Architects are not well received. Aussie companies have already outsourced most coding work to Offshore (India & the Philippines), even if there is a rare role the pay is extremely poor. The reason is there is no innovation or FAANG like organizations, most jobs are implementing and maintaining systems. There is a small startup culture but there also the rush is to offshore the coding since most owners are aware of the lack of local tech talent.
- The demand is high for generalists, people managers and business interacting functionals.
- The Largest IT employer is the Government (Federal, State - Canadian equivalent of province & Cities - Sydney, Brisbane). Federal jobs are strictly only citizens, often even dual citizens are barred, depending on the role there is a need for clearance evaluations many of which take a few years to get, these are done by the RCMP, CSIS equivalents of Australia. The Federal projects need some techies. The others state and cities take PRs but will look for loads of local Oz experience, there most coding is done offshore. The sick part is most of these government roles are for programs which run for multiple decades at a snails pace, will need copious amount of compliance records. Both of these will make restless most of us who like getting things done. Only saving grace is the governments pay is humongous at least 50% more and often twice as private, loads of vacation 20-30 days Vacation, 10 days Sick Leave, after 5 years additional week or two of long service leave etc...
- Worldwide only in Consulting firms and big4, is one made to perform song and dance in coffee culture/wine and dine etc. before recruitment. However In Australia almost every private firm does it even for Team lead roles, and bar becomes higher for mid-management and for leadership make take months to years of such courtship. My MBA has loads of such assignments to do this greasing and lip service.
It is not a bad place if you are into their way of working and have good network of folks to grant you favors. Which means you have to willing to grant favors to others also. Work hours are shorter and less intense than USA. In Canada and USA I have seen clan favoritism which is not very common in Australia.
 
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Hopeful007

Hero Member
Feb 16, 2019
468
344
I'm saying a per country visa cap sounds like a bad idea. I'm not saying we should do nothing.

Protesting your local government to raise the bar on DLI accreditation sounds like a good idea to me.
There are way too many local governments, stakeholders etc. It's just much easier to pressure the federal government to put hard caps and then tweak if necessary.

There is really no shortage in many sectors of the economy. It's all about regulations and so on. StatCan proved how there is no shortage for most jobs.
 

Emil1

Hero Member
Aug 18, 2019
353
331
Results: Rounds of invitations


Ministerial Instructions respecting invitations to apply for permanent residence under the Express Entry system #265– September 26, 2023


See full text of Ministerial Instruction


No Program Specified


Number of invitations issued:
3,000Footnote *


Rank required to be invited to apply: 3,000 or above


Date and time of round: September 26, 2023 at 13:38:55 UTC


CRS score of lowest-ranked candidate invited: 504


Tie-breaking rule: September 11, 2023 at 20:24:18 UTC


If more than one candidate has the lowest score, the cut-off is based on the date and time they submitted their Express Entry profiles.



CRS score distribution of candidates in the Express Entry pool as of September 26, 2023

CRS score rangeNumber of candidates
601-1200544
501-6002,923
451-50058,645
491-5003,727
481-4908,544
471-48019,143
461-47015,048
451-46012,183
401-45054,225
441-45011,205
431-44011,590
421-4309,810
411-42010,478
401-41011,142
351-40060,843
301-35031,532
0-3005,288
Total214,000
 
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iSaidGoodDay

VIP Member
Feb 3, 2023
4,457
2,380
Kaneda
Results: Rounds of invitations


Ministerial Instructions respecting invitations to apply for permanent residence under the Express Entry system #265– September 26, 2023


See full text of Ministerial Instruction


No Program Specified


Number of invitations issued:
3,000Footnote *


Rank required to be invited to apply: 3,000 or above


Date and time of round: September 26, 2023 at 13:38:55 UTC


CRS score of lowest-ranked candidate invited: 504


Tie-breaking rule: September 11, 2023 at 20:24:18 UTC


If more than one candidate has the lowest score, the cut-off is based on the date and time they submitted their Express Entry profiles.



CRS score distribution of candidates in the Express Entry pool as of September 26, 2023

CRS score rangeNumber of candidates
601-1200544
501-6002,923
451-50058,645
491-5003,727
481-4908,544
471-48019,143
461-47015,048
451-46012,183
401-45054,225
441-45011,205
431-44011,590
421-4309,810
411-42010,478
401-41011,142
351-40060,843
301-35031,532
0-3005,288
Total214,000
It is crazy how there are 2-3 million TRVs, but only 214,000 people in the EE pool. Assuming half of these in the pool are outlanders, it is very small in size.
 
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Psyoptica

Champion Member
Feb 20, 2020
1,091
1,566
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2174
AOR Received.
16-04-2020
Not all of them are single dudes. A lot of them have families, children etc so 1 PR on average equals 4 people
 
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GandiBaat

VIP Member
Dec 23, 2014
3,704
2,990
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
26th September 2021
Doc's Request.
Old Medical
Nomination.....
None
AOR Received.
26th September 2021
IELTS Request
Sent with application
File Transfer...
11-01-2022
Med's Request
Not Applicable, Old Meds
Med's Done....
Old Medical
Interview........
Not Applicable
Passport Req..
22-02-2022
VISA ISSUED...
22-02-2022
LANDED..........
24-02-2022
Why did you ever think they will ever implement any kind of country cap?
 
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GandiBaat

VIP Member
Dec 23, 2014
3,704
2,990
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
26th September 2021
Doc's Request.
Old Medical
Nomination.....
None
AOR Received.
26th September 2021
IELTS Request
Sent with application
File Transfer...
11-01-2022
Med's Request
Not Applicable, Old Meds
Med's Done....
Old Medical
Interview........
Not Applicable
Passport Req..
22-02-2022
VISA ISSUED...
22-02-2022
LANDED..........
24-02-2022
Canada is going in a rather interesting dimension. They will perhaps continue to have "open for all" rounds. And they will also have specialized rounds with possibly lower cut off to attract the right skills they need.

The goal seems to be to fill up the country (Century initiative) and to fill in skill gaps (transport and medical).

And LPC is playing some kind of strategic game. They know immigrants tend to favour left liberals so why not fill the country with more immigrants. Helps the businesses. Helps them. Avoids a Japan like situation.
 

abidm6

Star Member
Dec 19, 2015
60
2
Hi guys need guidance regarding Creating Express entry profile, in work experience, should I mention all experiences? as I have 2 experiences but out which 1 experience is of 3.3 years (this experience matches 100% to primary NOC) and other experience is of 1 year (this match only 50% of primary NOC), so should I mention this 1-year experience too while selecting the same NOC for this experience too? will this has any effect after invitation?
 

RSub

Champion Member
Aug 23, 2021
2,113
2,646
USA
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
CPC Ottawa
AOR Received.
12-11-2020
Hi guys need guidance regarding Creating Express entry profile, in work experience, should I mention all experiences? as I have 2 experiences but out which 1 experience is of 3.3 years (this experience matches 100% to primary NOC) and other experience is of 1 year (this match only 50% of primary NOC), so should I mention this 1-year experience too while selecting the same NOC for this experience too? will this has any effect after invitation?
Mention all the experiences. You can choose one primary NOC. You can have multiple NOC's but only one primary NOC that will give you points.