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No minister said this. Sorry to be pedantic here, but the game of telephone eventually leads to disappointment.
No actual minister said these words.
Oh sorry; I thought it was Fraser who said it. Thanks for correcting. Well let's hope that at least reflected his view...
 
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So IRCC is short of 2022 targets

never a problem for ircc cause tr2pr will be returning and i expect one mega draw like the one happened on February
tr2pr is probably not coming back but even if it is, it has (or had) a separate quota. tr2pr was a "CEC is damn slow just drop the 1yr Canadian experience req already and get me those immigrants" move to handle whatever happened in 2021. In 2022 there are more chances of a heavy CEC trend than tr2pr.

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Prob not. Let me go find the numbers then I'll attempt to share a calculation

Source for the numbers: https://www.cicnews.com/2021/11/canada-has-a-backlog-of-nearly-1-8-million-immigration-applications-1119651.html#gs.gokbph

Source for IRCC's targets https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/notices/supplementary-immigration-levels-2021-2023.html

We need to look at "economic class". As of Nov 18:

CEC: 48,225 apps
FSW: 51,147 apps

IRCC's "federal high skilled" target (i.e. FSW+CEC) for 2021 is 108,500; and 110,500 for 2022.

IRCC is going berserk on those 48,225 CEC apps right now to meet 2021 targets. They have 4-5 weeks left before the year is done. Let's be conservative and assume IRCC clears up another 5225 CEC apps this year. Let's also assume only 147 outland apps are processed until 2022. So as of Jan 1 2022, we're looking at below backlog:

CEC: 43,000 apps
FSW: 51,000 apps

Assume 20% rejection rate and 5% complex apps (complex apps won't help 2022's targets) for FSW and 10% for CEC (no complex CEC apps):

CEC: 38,700
FSW: 38,300

Total: 77,000

So IRCC is short of 2022 targets by 33,000 PRs. To get 33,000 PRs, they probably need to invite 25% more than that so we're looking at at least 41,000 ITAs in 2022. I say at least because IRCC doesn't stop draws; it continues to help the next year's (2023) targets.
Sorry if my question is stupid, but isn’t the target of 110,500 for 2022 the number of people that land vs 77,000 apps (which would include multiple family members)? :rolleyes:
 
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Sorry if my question is stupid, but isn’t the target of 110,500 for 2022 the number of people that land vs 77,000 apps (which would include multiple family members)? :rolleyes:
Not stupid at all. 110,500 is for landed principal applicants. Landed dependents have a separate quota listed under "Family - Spouses, Partners and Children" in the link https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/notices/supplementary-immigration-levels-2021-2023.html

Says 80,000 for 2022

These are "persons" and not the number of applications, actual number of pending applications is lower as per previously shared memo.
Oh damn, thanks. Then IRCC is even more fucked up.
 

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What happens on the first day of Parliament in Canada
Here are the typical Canadian traditions associated with the opening of Parliament.


A new session of Parliament is beginning today, November 22, after pausing for the summer months and to make way for Canada’s 44th federal election.

Once Parliament is open, Canadian members of Parliament (MPs) can engage in the making of new laws, and represent their constituents in the House of Commons. There are two things that typically happen before MPs resume their regular duties: the election of a new Speaker, and the throne speech.

The throne speech opens each new session of Parliament, not necessarily just after a general election. It is written by the government, and approved by the prime minister. It outlines the government’s view of the issues that affect Canadians, and their vision for the future.

According to the prime minister’s office, the throne speech for the 44th Parliament will to discuss the government’s plans to “finish the fight against COVID-19 and build a better future for everyone.” Tradition dictates that the governor general, Mary Simon, will deliver the speech. Simon was appointed to the position by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau this past summer.

Among other items, the government will likely also address immigration. Last year’s throne speech, hailed immigration as “a driver to Canada’s economic growth.” The section on immigration also said that the government should make it easier for people who “make sacrifices in support of Canada” to formally become Canadian. In the months that followed, Canada created a one-time immigration pathway for essential workers and international student graduates, despite the fact that the immigration backlog has continued to grow.

The throne speech is meant to be a broad brush of the government’s objectives. Specific changes in policy are not likely to come up. More nuance will be added when the government releases the mandate letters to ministers of the Cabinet.

Traditions of the first day in Parliament
Before Parliament can officially begin, the House of Commons must first elect a Speaker. It is the Speaker’s job to observe parliamentary rules and maintain order during debates. The previous Speaker of the House was Anthony Rota, the Liberal Party Member of Parliament for Nipissing-Timiskaming, Ontario.

It is tradition that the first day of a new Parliament starts with the ceremonial motions of preparing for the throne speech. Then the Usher of the Black Rod arrives at the House of Commons on behalf of the Senate. The Usher invites the MPs to the Senate Chamber. When they get there, the Speaker of the Senate tells the MPs that they need to choose a Speak of the House of Commons before the Governor General can give the throne speech.

The MPs return to the House of Commons and elect a Speaker by secret ballot. Once the Speaker has been chosen, the prime minister and Official Opposition drag them into their chair. These days, the newly-elected Speaker may feign reluctance, which is a throw back to when the British speakers risked execution if they reported news that displeased the monarch.

After the Speaker is chosen, the MPs go back to the Senate and the Governor General delivers the throne speech, which could happen the following day.




 

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I think there's something wrong in this whole immigration thing. Isn't it just a visa? Why the hell am I waiting for some foreign prime minister to send a mandate letter to a foreign minister? Never thought I'd be getting deep into Canadian politics when I started my immigration journey....... What's next? Researching all great Brazilian football players because I wanna live in Rio?