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[luqi]

Hi luqi,
Sorry dear, nothing offensive but this is not the case. Please refer below link.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/factor-experience.asp

to be eligible for processing applicant should have minimum 1 yr exp in NOC, for other exp. applicant can get points!!!

going further i can see

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-who.asp

B) Minimum requirements
Work experience

If your application is eligible to be processed, we will then assess it to see if your work experience is valid.

Your work experience must be:

for at least one year in the same occupation,
continuous and paid (full-time or an equal amount in part-time),
within the last 10 years,

AND

skill type 0 (managerial occupations) or
skill level A (professional occupations) or
skill level B (technical occupations and skilled trades)

on the Canadian National Occupational Classification (NOC) list.

(The National Occupational Classification is a system used to classify jobs in Canada.)

if you have some proof that CIC assign points to non-NOC work experience please share, i would be glad to add this into my knowledge

regards

 

[luqi]

Hi luqi,
Sorry dear, nothing offensive but this is not the case. Please refer below link.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/factor-experience.asp

to be eligible for processing applicant should have minimum 1 yr exp in NOC, for other exp. applicant can get points!!!

i found this too

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=665&t=6

Non-paid employment does not qualify under the Canadian Experience Class. You must have been paid a wage (or earned a commission) but there is no minimum wage requirement for your qualifying work experience.

Full-time work experience means working at least 30 paid hours per week. To qualify, you must have skilled work experience, meaning work in occupations listed at NOC Skill Type 0 (managerial), or NOC Skill Level A (professional occupations) or NOC skill Level B (technical and trade occupations).

 

[luqi]

Hi luqi,
Sorry dear, nothing offensive but this is not the case. Please refer below link.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/factor-experience.asp

to be eligible for processing applicant should have minimum 1 yr exp in NOC, for other exp. applicant can get points!!!

sorry for posting too much read this. this will help too.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=386&t=6

Can I count both high-skilled and low-skilled experience toward the work experience required?

No. You can only count work experience in one or more of these 2011 National Occupational Classification (NOC) categories:

Skill Type 0 (managerial occupations),
Skill Level A (professional occupations) or
Skill Level B (technical occupations and skilled trades), except for the six ineligible occupations (listed below).

You cannot count work experience in these National Occupational Classification (NOC) categories:

Skill Level C,
Skill Level D, or
the following NOC B occupations:
1221 – Administrative officers
1241 – Administrative assistants
1311 – Accounting technicians and bookkeepers
6211 – Retail sales supervisors
6322 – Cooks

 

[harryy]

sorry for posting too much read this. this will help too.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=386&t=6

Can I count both high-skilled and low-skilled experience toward the work experience required?
No. You can only count work experience in one or more of these 2011 National Occupational Classification (NOC) categories:

Skill Type 0 (managerial occupations),
Skill Level A (professional occupations) or
Skill Level B (technical occupations and skilled trades), except for the six ineligible occupations (listed below).

You cannot count work experience in these National Occupational Classification (NOC) categories:

Skill Level C,
Skill Level D, or
the following NOC B occupations:
1221 – Administrative officers
1241 – Administrative assistants
1311 – Accounting technicians and bookkeepers
6211 – Retail sales supervisors
6322 – Cooks

You yourself got the answer buddy ;D if exp falls under Skill Type 0 , A , B that can be counted for points.!!

 

[luqi]

You yourself got the answer buddy ;D

can u explain how?

 

[harryy]

can u explain how?

Refer link again: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/factor-experience.asp
As per this link:

Points for work experience – Federal skilled workers (Maximum 15 points)
You can get points for the number of years you have spent in full-time paid work (at least 30 hours per week, or an equal amount of part-time).
National Occupational Classification (NOC)
The NOC is a system used to classify jobs in the Canadian economy. It describes duties, skills, talents and work settings for different jobs. CIC uses the 2011 edition of the NOC to assess skilled worker applications.
Finding your NOC category
The easiest way to find your category is to
• go to the National Occupational Classification website,
• scroll to the bottom of the page,
• in the Quick Search box on the left-hand side, put the name of your occupation, and
• press “go.”
This will give you some options. Check if any of them seem to be the right occupation. If this does not work:
• press the “back” button,
• choose the option that sounds most like your field, and
• see if any of the occupations on the list match your occupation.
If the description and list of main duties match what you did at your last job(s), you can count this experience for points.
Use this chart to find the number of points based on your number of years of experience.
Experience Maximum 15 points
1 year 9
2-3 years 11
4-5 years 13
6 or more years 15

Additionally:

To count points exp should be in following Skill Types only!!!
Skill Type 0 (managerial occupations),
Skill Level A (professional occupations) or
Skill Level B (technical occupations and skilled trades), except for the six ineligible occupations .

 

[saleem7821]

whats does mean that application has pre-assessed
???????

 

[luqi]

Refer link again: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/factor-experience.asp
As per this link:

Points for work experience – Federal skilled workers (Maximum 15 points)
You can get points for the number of years you have spent in full-time paid work (at least 30 hours per week, or an equal amount of part-time).
National Occupational Classification (NOC)
The NOC is a system used to classify jobs in the Canadian economy. It describes duties, skills, talents and work settings for different jobs. CIC uses the 2011 edition of the NOC to assess skilled worker applications.
Finding your NOC category
The easiest way to find your category is to
• go to the National Occupational Classification website,
• scroll to the bottom of the page,
• in the Quick Search box on the left-hand side, put the name of your occupation, and
• press “go.”
This will give you some options. Check if any of them seem to be the right occupation. If this does not work:
• press the “back” button,
• choose the option that sounds most like your field, and
• see if any of the occupations on the list match your occupation.
If the description and list of main duties match what you did at your last job(s), you can count this experience for points.
Use this chart to find the number of points based on your number of years of experience.
Experience Maximum 15 points
1 year 9
2-3 years 11
4-5 years 13
6 or more years 15

Additionally:

exp should be in:
Skill Type 0 (managerial occupations),
Skill Level A (professional occupations) or
Skill Level B (technical occupations and skilled trades), except for the six ineligible occupations .

only!!!

yes that whats i am saying look at my first post what i stated "you only get points for your NOC related experience, CIC has nothing to do with other jobs you had in the past years"

you can ask a few more seniors here but this is ultimate, non-noc work experience gives u nothing.

 

[aatifmazhar]

you could only get points for yor NOC related experience.

 

[harryy]

yes that whats i am saying look at my first post what i stated "you only get points for your NOC related experience, CIC has nothing to do with other jobs you had in the past years"

you can ask a few more seniors here but this is ultimate, non-noc work experience gives u nothing.

Dear, it seems your are getting confused with NOC, sorry again nothing offensive.

NOC is a list which classifies the occupations in Canada.
This link provides the complete list of NOCs http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2011/QuickSearch.aspx?val65=* (Click on NOC Code list on left side)

Out of these NOCs, every year, Immigration Ministry selects a few NOCs and makes a list and that list makes Eligible Occupations, that's why it is called Ministerial Instructions list.
If a person a has at least one year continuous paid work exp in any of these Eligible occupations then s/he becomes eligible for further processing (given that s/he fulfills other conditions and gets min 67 passing points criteria)
(listed here for year 203: "http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-who-instructions.asp?expand=jobs#jobs )

Now if an applicant have any other exp under, s/he can get points!!!
Skill Type 0 (managerial occupations), or
Skill Level A (professional occupations) or
Skill Level B (technical occupations and skilled trades), except for the six ineligible occupations .

regards.

 

[who1074]

In my opinion, you are only eligible to apply if you have one year of continuous work experience in the listed 24 occupations. Your points for work experience are then calculated based on your years of work experience in skill level 0, 1 or 2.
assessment at CIO is preliminary and VOs there adapt a conservative approach while calculating points. Say if they are not sure that a given reference letter falls in skill level 0, 1 or 2 they won't consider it for points calculations.

Once another visa officer reviews the file at the designated visa office points may well increase.

we have cases on this forum where people got PER despite having 66 points because CIO left it to the visa office to decide on the facts provided on schedule-3 form.

 

[saleem7821]

whats does mean that application has pre-assessed
HuhHuh?

 

[harryy]

In my opinion, you are only eligible to apply if you have one year of continuous work experience in the listed 24 occupations. Your points for work experience are then calculated based on your years of work experience in skill level 0, 1 or 2.

Yes, thats what I am trying to say!!! Moreover if any applicant gets 67 points easily from eligible NOC, CIO dont even bother to assess other exp/reference letters , even they dont check if you are claiming points for "Adaptability" as well.

If any applicant just falls on the boundary (67 points) then CIO checks all these things!!!

 

[harryy]

whats does mean that application has pre-assessed
HuhHuh?

Pre-assessed means whether applicant have got his/her file assessed from either online (CIC website) or from any immigrant consultant, even an applicant can do self assessment of his/her file.

 

[luqi]

Dear, it seems your are getting confused with NOC, sorry again nothing offensive.

NOC is a list which classifies the occupations in Canada.
This link provides the complete list of NOCs http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2011/QuickSearch.aspx?val65=* (Click on NOC Code list on left side)

Out of these NOCs, every year, Immigration Ministry selects a few NOCs and makes a list and that list makes Eligible Occupations, that's why it is called Ministerial Instructions list.
If a person a has at least one year continuous paid work exp in any of these Eligible occupations then s/he becomes eligible for further processing (given that s/he fulfills other conditions and gets min 67 passing points criteria)
(listed here for year 203: "http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-who-instructions.asp?expand=jobs#jobs )

Now if an applicant have any other exp under, s/he can get points!!!
Skill Type 0 (managerial occupations), or
Skill Level A (professional occupations) or
Skill Level B (technical occupations and skilled trades), except for the six ineligible occupations .

regards.

yes thats true the work experience should only be among these NOC thats what i want to say. if you have work experience in more than one NOC, you will have to mention that in schedule 3 form, but one member here did the same he mentioned 2 NOCs in the form and his application was rejected.