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Common-Law Sponsorship - Previous Relationships

canadan_

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Hi all,

Hoping someone may be able to shed some light as to whether I should be overly concerned about a particular aspect of my application.

I, the PA, am a UK citizen, my common-law partner, the sponsor, is a Canadian Citizen. We currently reside in the UK whilst she is on a temporary ancestry visa which expires May 2021. We are applying Outland.

We both have previous relationships which according to how they are defined would be common-law partnerships; as such, we are obviously declaring them to avoid any chance of providing inaccurate information even though none of them were as ‘marriage-like’ as our current relationship (no joint bank accounts, not listed on each others life insurance beneficiaries, no intentions to marry etc. )

I have two, between May 2010 and May 2015 and the other between July 2015 and December 2016.

Hers was between April 2014 and December 2016.

As you may be able to work out, our two most recent relationships broke up at the same time basically because we realised our feelings for each other and desire to be together.

We have lived together now since February 2017 so basically 3 years. We’ve spent like 2 nights apart in that time.

We have what I would consider very good documentary evidence of our relationship (named as beneficiaries on each other’s life insurance, joint health insurance policies, plenty of good quality photos together, multiple letters of support from friends and family including a notarised one from her parents, social media screenshots demonstrating the public nature of our relationship etc. ) as well as very good evidence of our being common law (a sworn statutory declaration of common-law partnership, joint tenancy agreements for the 3 years, joint council tax bills, joint bank account, a ton of correspondence addressed individually but to the same address).


I know no one can say for certain, but in anyone’s experience are we likely to face much resistance due to our previous relationships? Advice and opinions on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
 

Crystel13

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No your past relationships don't matter as long as you are not divorced. To me, it sounds like you won't get in any trouble for PR.
 
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canadan_

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No your past relationships don't matter as long as you are not divorced. To me, it sounds like you won't get in any trouble for PR.
No, no divorces!
It’s a shame they don’t let you specify whether the relationship is common law or marriage, though presumably they work that out for themselves!

I should also note there are NO dependents from the previous relationships also.
 

Crystel13

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No, no divorces!
It’s a shame they don’t let you specify whether the relationship is common law or marriage, though presumably they work that out for themselves!

I should also note there are NO dependents from the previous relationships also.
I'm sure you'll be fine. Sponsorship is a long process but if your relationships is genuine and you have plenty of proofs, you'll be okay.
 

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Hi all,

Hoping someone may be able to shed some light as to whether I should be overly concerned about a particular aspect of my application.

I, the PA, am a UK citizen, my common-law partner, the sponsor, is a Canadian Citizen. We currently reside in the UK whilst she is on a temporary ancestry visa which expires May 2021. We are applying Outland.

We both have previous relationships which according to how they are defined would be common-law partnerships; as such, we are obviously declaring them to avoid any chance of providing inaccurate information even though none of them were as ‘marriage-like’ as our current relationship (no joint bank accounts, not listed on each others life insurance beneficiaries, no intentions to marry etc. )

I have two, between May 2010 and May 2015 and the other between July 2015 and December 2016.

Hers was between April 2014 and December 2016.

As you may be able to work out, our two most recent relationships broke up at the same time basically because we realised our feelings for each other and desire to be together.

We have lived together now since February 2017 so basically 3 years. We’ve spent like 2 nights apart in that time.

We have what I would consider very good documentary evidence of our relationship (named as beneficiaries on each other’s life insurance, joint health insurance policies, plenty of good quality photos together, multiple letters of support from friends and family including a notarised one from her parents, social media screenshots demonstrating the public nature of our relationship etc. ) as well as very good evidence of our being common law (a sworn statutory declaration of common-law partnership, joint tenancy agreements for the 3 years, joint council tax bills, joint bank account, a ton of correspondence addressed individually but to the same address).


I know no one can say for certain, but in anyone’s experience are we likely to face much resistance due to our previous relationships? Advice and opinions on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
Your previous relationships are not an issue.
 
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canadan_

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does that mean we don't need to declare previous marriages ? would that be considered a misrepresentation ?
I think if you’ve lived with someone in a conjugal relationship for more than 12 months or have been married you have to declare it.

Whether it matters or not is irrelevant, it’s about provider the officer with all the info. It would be misrepresentation to not declare it.
 

armoured

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You sound confident, which is awesome!

May I ask why? We have a consultant, he’s making out like it’ll be problematic.
I don't mean to speak for another but your situation is not that unusual. Lots of applicants have previous relationships esp in cultural context of UK and Canada. As long as evidence of your current relationship is in order, it should be seen as pretty routine as you've been together several years.

It's possible your consultant has seen other applicants with more complicated marital histoires eg with children where the context raised questions that would not seem to apply in your case. But I'm only guessing.
 
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canadan_

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I don't mean to speak for another but your situation is not that unusual. Lots of applicants have previous relationships esp in cultural context of UK and Canada. As long as evidence of your current relationship is in order, it should be seen as pretty routine as you've been together several years.

It's possible your consultant has seen other applicants with more complicated marital histoires eg with children where the context raised questions that would not seem to apply in your case. But I'm only guessing.
Thanks, this is really helpful.

Those were my thoughts on it, that it’s pretty common for partners to have lived with ppl in other relationships previously and that it would be seen as fairly routine. Otherwise I think our application is really solid but his comments on this cast doubt on the whole thing for me and has been a real source of worry and anxiety! Glad to have some reassuring words here.
 
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armoured

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Those were my thoughts on it, that it’s pretty common for partners to have lived with ppl in other relationships previously and that it would be seen as fairly routine. Otherwise I think our application is really solid but his comments on this cast doubt on the whole thing for me and has been a real source of worry and anxiety! Glad to have some reassuring words here.
Is your consultant in the UK or Canada? Can I ask why you decided to use a consultant? A lot of people here do on their own (although I will note it's a fair amount of work).

Without wishing to cast aspersions on consultants, there are a lot of reasons why a consultant may perceive a file as complex (or describe an application as complex) based on previous experience or tending to see more complex files (after all, those who feel the need to pay for a consultant may genuinely have more complex files).

But assuming there are no other issues the consultant identified as complex that you haven't mentioned, we're not talking about a country/culture where divorce or 'living together' are uncommon (or that much different than in Canada), it's not an arranged marriage or online relationship where you've only met in person once or twice, etc. (I presume neither you nor your spouse have previous immigration/sponsorship/visitor/residence files, like you sponsored your three previous paramours - kidding).

That's not to say that previous relationships are not (potentially) a factor, but a factor looked at in the context of a bunch of other considerations.
 
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canadan_

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Is your consultant in the UK or Canada? Can I ask why you decided to use a consultant? A lot of people here do on their own (although I will note it's a fair amount of work).

Without wishing to cast aspersions on consultants, there are a lot of reasons why a consultant may perceive a file as complex (or describe an application as complex) based on previous experience or tending to see more complex files (after all, those who feel the need to pay for a consultant may genuinely have more complex files).

But assuming there are no other issues the consultant identified as complex that you haven't mentioned, we're not talking about a country/culture where divorce or 'living together' are uncommon (or that much different than in Canada), it's not an arranged marriage or online relationship where you've only met in person once or twice, etc. (I presume neither you nor your spouse have previous immigration/sponsorship/visitor/residence files, like you sponsored your three previous paramours - kidding).

That's not to say that previous relationships are not (potentially) a factor, but a factor looked at in the context of a bunch of other considerations.
Yeah sure, they’re here in the UK but to my knowledge have dual citizenship; they are also registered with iccrc.

The reason why we went down the consultant route is when we initially were preparing our application and I received my UK police certificate I hadn’t realised two arrests from when I was under 18 would mean the cert displayed ‘no live trace’. I guess I freaked out and wanted to make sure it was dealt with by someone with experience of these situations.

On their advice I ended up doing a rehab app to confirm admissibility prior to preparing our sponsorship app. It ended up with the VO in London cancelling it because I wasn’t inadmissible and the app wasn’t necessary, I assume because I was under 18 when it happened (and it was like 15 years ago). It was a relief and we just decided to move forward with the rest of the app with them.

We’ve probably unnecessarily spent quite a lot of money but it means a lot to us. I was hoping it would remove doubt rather than cause it though!
 
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does that mean we don't need to declare previous marriages ? would that be considered a misrepresentation ?
Yes, you do need to declare previous marriages. Yes it would be misrepresentation to not declare it.
 
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