Called CIC today and got starnge answer

[omaus25]

Yes I don't care about you and your personal life and experience. But you give advices as if you work for CIC. But even with the info given already, we are not 100% sure what is going to happen. BUT it clearly says that after Jan 1st , 2015 LMIA processing fee will be free for employers whose intention is to support an employee for PR.

You are correct, free in those circumstances, I told you that in my previous post.

You did mention you pay a lot of money in education services in Canada correct? If this is the case, then I am assuming you are there, which means you know the system, how things work in Canada, and out of your own personal experience you can't find out about this? What were you studying? My brother was in the same boat as you, and he had no trouble finding sponsorship for his resident status (Electronic Engineer with Master in Control Process)... I am wondering if your personal issues, and CLEARLY your personality are the problems you have to find someone willing to help you, and out of how you behave in this forum I think that comparing you with an Engineer is not fair, specially for the engineer... Good luck to you sir.

 

[Carmageddon]

Yes I don't care about you and your personal life and experience. But you give advices as if you work for CIC. But even with the info given already, we are not 100% sure what is going to happen. BUT it clearly says that after Jan 1st , 2015 LMIA processing fee will be free for employers whose intention is to support an employee for PR.

What about the 10 days processing?

 

[Phil89]

You are correct, free in those circumstances, I told you that in my previous post.

You did mention you pay a lot of money in education services in Canada correct? If this is the case, then I am assuming you are there, which means you know the system, how things work in Canada, and out of your own personal experience you can't find out about this? What were you studying? My brother was in the same boat as you, and he had no trouble finding sponsorship for his resident status (Electronic Engineer with Master in Control Process)... I am wondering if your personal issues, and CLEARLY your personality are the problems you have to find someone willing to help you, and out of how you behave in this forum I think that comparing you with an Engineer is not fair, specially for the engineer... Good luck to you sir.

OMG and you are calling me rude??

 

[omaus25]

OMG and you are calling me rude??

Peace please... aren't we here to try to help each other?

 

[kevin petersen]

Phil89, please try to be respectful, we are trying to help each other...No one is expert here, we are researching...No need to get personal..

 

[Nick~Nick]

Guys...if we are in PGWP and having permanent job offer (Ontario)..
and everyone saying that we need LMIA for EE...
------Till that okay----
But then we need medium wage also...??

 

[omaus25]

I found this on an attorney's web page and I think is worth to see it:

7. Consider asking your Employer to request a Permanent LMIA to support your Express Entry Profile before turning to the traditional Work Based LMIA – there are distinct advantages for doing this if you are currently working in Canada on an LMIA exempt work permit such as NAFTA Professionals, Intra-company Transferees, International Experience Class and Spousal work permits. The advantages to filing a PLMIA are no processing fees and 10 days processing. However, please note that the 10 day processes from the date they decide to look at your application and not the date you filed the application with ESDC.

HELPFUL HINT: Do not be tempted to file a PLMIA to support an LMIA based work permit. Although the faster processing time and no processing fee is very attractive, ESDC will not take too kindly to this abuse of process. Interestingly enough, it would appear that maybe the regulatory authority to prevent someone from doing just that is not in place and as such a person could technically obtain a PLMIA to support a work permit extension filed through CBSA at the POE or inland through CIC. However, I would not recommend testing this theory if you have plans of remaining in Canada permanently.

 

[Carmageddon]

I found this on an attorney's web page and I think is worth to see it:

7. Consider asking your Employer to request a Permanent LMIA to support your Express Entry Profile before turning to the traditional Work Based LMIA – there are distinct advantages for doing this if you are currently working in Canada on an LMIA exempt work permit such as NAFTA Professionals, Intra-company Transferees, International Experience Class and Spousal work permits. The advantages to filing a PLMIA are no processing fees and 10 days processing. However, please note that the 10 day processes from the date they decide to look at your application and not the date you filed the application with ESDC.

HELPFUL HINT: Do not be tempted to file a PLMIA to support an LMIA based work permit. Although the faster processing time and no processing fee is very attractive, ESDC will not take too kindly to this abuse of process. Interestingly enough, it would appear that maybe the regulatory authority to prevent someone from doing just that is not in place and as such a person could technically obtain a PLMIA to support a work permit extension filed through CBSA at the POE or inland through CIC. However, I would not recommend testing this theory if you have plans of remaining in Canada permanently.

I don't understand the second part...

 

[mrpoghz]

-Guys guess what, I called CIC today morning and as per them if you have PGWP and arranged employment, and you will not be eligible for 600 points.
-As per the agent only those who has LMIA approved job will be eligible for the points not the people who are LMIA exempt
-According to the agent, we need to register our self in the job bank and get a LMIA approved job
-I told that thousands of people who have PGWP will have to leave their current job in order to get a LMIA approved jobs, do u think that makes sense?
-I was told that is the case

has this been confirmed? How about those ICT with permanent job which are LMO exempt?

 

[Nick~Nick]

I am going to grad in this month and finding full time job...
If we need LMIA for EE...

You also need to make sue your pay is higher than the medium wage. Otherwise your employer will receive a negative opinion

How its possible for a post graduate..in first year of PGWP..to make medium wage (NOC 2174 , Ontario) : $35.00 ??
I have one offer..but its just near to low wage..($18.03)..
Can I go for that..or find another job ? It will be problem for LMIA ?

 

[a3449655]

I am going to grad in this month and finding full time job...
If we need LMIA for EE...

How its possible for a post graduate..in first year of PGWP..to make medium wage (NOC 2174 , Ontario) : $35.00 ??
I have one offer..but its just near to low wage..($18.03)..
Can I go for that..or find another job ? It will be problem for LMIA ?

From ESDC
The prevailing wage rate is identified as the median hourly wage (or annual salary as published on Job Bank) or higher for the particular occupation and work location. Employers must also ensure that they include the wage being paid for the position, as part of their advertisement of the available position.
Employers offering a wage that is below the prevailing wage rate will be considered as not meeting the labour market factor for the assessment of wages and therefore, will be issued a negative LMIA.

 

[omaus25]

Here is an example in terms of medium wage, and this comes from an offer I got like 6 months ago:

As a Civil Engineer, A Canadian Citizen and/or permanent resident, for the position offered in Fort McMurray, has a median wage of $96.000, because of the requirements for the position (academics, past experience, certifications and so), the salary offered was $110.500 annually. These numbers apply whether you are a natural born citizen of Canada with studies from an accredited University there or a foreigner with studies in an University in any other country in the world. And here is the key for the LMIA, there should be no distinction or difference in a job offer under the origin of the applicant, and immigration Canada is very picky about this.

I hope this helps to clarify things.

 

[Nick~Nick]

Here is an example in terms of medium wage, and this comes from an offer I got like 6 months ago:

As a Civil Engineer, A Canadian Citizen and/or permanent resident, for the position offered in Fort McMurray, has a median wage of $96.000, because of the requirements for the position (academics, past experience, certifications and so), the salary offered was $110.500 annually. These numbers apply whether you are a natural born citizen of Canada with studies from an accredited University there or a foreigner with studies in an University in any other country in the world. And here is the key for the LMIA, there should be no distinction or difference in a job offer under the origin of the applicant, and immigration Canada is very picky about this.

I hope this helps to clarify things.

Thanks for this info..
But, post graduate from college and bachelor or master from University is having big difference..
Even in Job Bank website....most of the jobs that I am looking is not near to medium wage..
I don't know..its make me

 

[mf4361]

Thanks for this info..
But, post graduate from college and bachelor or master from University is having big difference..
Even in Job Bank website....most of the jobs that I am looking is not near to medium wage..
I don't know..its make me

http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/jobs/foreign_workers/higher_skilled/academics//index.shtml

I believe this is for TFW program. Read in context. Not too familiar with detail LMIA/LMO process so correct if I'm wrong.

 

[Nick~Nick]

http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/jobs/foreign_workers/higher_skilled/academics//index.shtml

I believe this is for TFW program. Read in context. Not too familiar with detail LMIA/LMO process so correct if I'm wrong.

If its for TFW that all right..
Otherwise what will be the diff between TFW and PGWP..student invest there time and money to study in Canada and going through same process as TFW..?? Why ??

Please explain this...
"....
-Guys guess what, I called CIC today morning and as per them if you have PGWP and arranged employment, and you will not be eligible for 600 points.
-As per the agent only those who has LMIA approved job will be eligible for the points not the people who are LMIA exempt
-According to the agent, we need to register our self in the job bank and get a LMIA approved job
-I told that thousands of people who have PGWP will have to leave their current job in order to get a LMIA approved jobs, do u think that makes sense?
-I was told that is the case
..."