Bill C-6: Senate stage

[jsm0085]

I don't know why people are so pessimistic.

This is why the libs are confident and the cons are engaging in delay tactics. The only issue right now is the conservatives.

 

[lilen]

exactly

 

[asifmehmood]

A good news to cheer you up guys. A confirmation that the changes of Bill C-6 will be almost immediatly implemented once the Bill passes. Citizenship and Immigration minister, Ahmed Hussain said in HoC that changes would be implemented very quickly https://openparliament.ca/committees/immigration/42-1/54/ahmed-hussen-45/

Good news, hopefully C-6 will be done soon, cons cant drag the bill for ever. The good thing is that we have 2 weeks sittings in April, who know the bill is done in next two weeks.

 

[Whocares]

I don't know why people are so pessimistic.

This is why the libs are confident and the cons are engaging in delay tactics. The only issue right now is the conservatives.

are u kidding????/ of course the cons. are the problem, who doesn't know that.. But they are the majority in the senate..

 

[Babayaro]

is Canada democratic country ? If answer is yes please explain to me. Elected MP want to change something appointed senators have power to stop it.

Bill C6 is clearly dead. Stuck in Senate 8 months and not seems any improvement still. Huge disappointment..

 

[lilen]

maybe ur right, but 5 months of these 8 months was a vacantion for senators

 

[lilen]

vacation*

 

[ChippyBoy]

vacation*

I think that that's being a bit unfair. C-6 officially entered the Senate Chamber on June 17th last year, at its First Reading by Sen. Omidvar, so that's now coming up on ten months ago. And when the Senate isn't sitting, it's not as though the senators and their staffs are all off on "vacation" at all; they're supposed to be working on preparations for the next sitting, as well following-up on things arising or consequent upon past sittings, committee reports, etc. As one who's also affected by this Bill, I can certainly understand the anger & frustration on here concerning C-6, but if Omidvar & Jaffer et al. are indeed 'flogging a dead horse' and have yet to realise this, then we'll all know soon enough.

 

[jsm0085]

A couple of things:

If the conservatives thought this wouldn't pass the vote - they would have voted already. They know it's going
To pass, this is exactly why they are delaying it.

If the libs thought it wouldn't pass, they wouldn't be as confident publically.

Cons are playing games - pure and simple !

 

[quasar81]

Cons are playing games - pure and simple !

It is time to start putting pressure on leadership of senate.

ALL, EMAIL SPEAKER OF SENATE - RESPECTFULLY - ASK HIM TO PUT C-6 TO VOTE AS IT HAS BEEN ALMOST A YEAR.

Speaker-President@sen.parl.gc.ca
CC: peter.harder@sen.parl.gc.ca , elaine.mccoy@sen.parl.gc.ca

Honourable Speaker George J. Furey,

...

 

[jsm0085]

It is time to start putting pressure on leadership of senate.

ALL, EMAIL SPEAKER OF SENATE - RESPECTFULLY - ASK HIM TO PUT C-6 TO VOTE AS IT HAS BEEN ALMOST A YEAR.

Speaker-President@sen.parl.gc.ca
CC: peter.harder@sen.parl.gc.ca , elaine.mccoy@sen.parl.gc.ca

Honourable Speaker George J. Furey,

...

Emails are private. Twitter is open. Everyone sees the comments - including the media!

 

[spyfy]

are u kidding????/ of course the cons. are the problem, who doesn't know that.. But they are the majority in the senate..

No they aren't, the current composition is:
39 Conservative
34 Non affiliated in the Independent Senators Group
19 Liberals
8 Non affiliated

Some of the independent Senators have been appointed by Conservative Prime Ministers.

Still "the Conservatives", as the caucus that is currently delaying, hold 39 of 100 non-vacant seats. That is far from a majority.

 

[jsm0085]

No they aren't, the current composition is:
39 Conservative
34 Non affiliated in the Independent Senators Group
19 Liberals
8 Non affiliated

Some of the independent Senators have been appointed by Conservative Prime Ministers.

Still "the Conservatives", as the caucus that is currently delaying, hold 39 of 100 non-vacant seats. That is far from a majority.

Libs and independs are together - making them the majority. That's already pre determined.

 

[vasyok]

It is time to start putting pressure on leadership of senate.

ALL, EMAIL SPEAKER OF SENATE - RESPECTFULLY - ASK HIM TO PUT C-6 TO VOTE AS IT HAS BEEN ALMOST A YEAR.

Speaker-President@sen.parl.gc.ca
CC: peter.harder@sen.parl.gc.ca , elaine.mccoy@sen.parl.gc.ca

Honourable Speaker George J. Furey,

...

Do you know any senate rule that gives him an authority to do it? The speaker has almost zero "power" - even his rulings on points of order can be overturned by the vote in senate.

 

[spyfy]

Cons and independs are together - making them the majority. That's already pre determined.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about. The independent count includes - among others:
- the official representative of the Liberal Government in the Senate
- the sponsor of bill C-6, Ratna Omidvar
- the proponent of the amendment, Elaine McCoy
- many Senators who have been appointed by Liberal Prime Ministers.

Please also compare the list of Senators (can be found on Wikipedia) to the list of people who voted in favour and against adjournment this Thursday. You will see that many independents vote with the Senate Liberals.

Also note that the Senate Liberals are - as of 2014 - not even affiliated with the Liberal Government or the Liberal Caucus in the House of Commons anymore.