Bill C-24 Second Reading on February 27th:

[marcus66502]

I think you should fire the lawyer who is giving you bad advice

If he needs a lawyer to fill out the application forms, I'm not sure he's qualified for citizenship in the first place.

 

[Tolerance]

The Bill is on Today's Agenda for Second Reading at the Senate

Yep, they completed first reading last night (see below). The way they are going, they might be done this week.

Social Affairs, Science and Technology

Committee Authorized to Meet During Sitting of the Senate

Hon. Yonah Martin (Deputy Leader of the Government): Honourable senators, with leave of the Senate and notwithstanding rule 5-5(j), I move:

That, for the purposes of its consideration of Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, should this bill be referred to the committee, the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology have the power to meet on Tuesday, June 17, 2014, even though the Senate may then be sitting, with the application of rule 12-18(1) being suspended in relation thereto.

The Hon. the Speaker: Is leave granted to consider this motion, honourable senators?

Hon. Senators: Agreed.

The Hon. the Speaker: Is it your pleasure, honourable senators, to adopt the motion?

Hon. Senators: Agreed.

(Motion agreed to.)
Citizenship Act

Bill to Amend—First Reading

The Hon. the Speaker informed the Senate that a message had been received from the House of Commons with Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts.

(Bill read first time.)

The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, when shall this bill be read the second time?

Hon. Yonah Martin (Deputy Leader of the Government): Honourable senators, with leave of the Senate and notwithstanding rule 5-6(1)(f), I move that this bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for second reading at the next sitting.

The Hon. the Speaker: Is leave granted, honourable senators?

Hon. Senators: Agreed.

(On motion of Senator Martin, bill placed on the Orders of the Day for second reading at the next sitting of the Senate.)

 

[sicko86]

well ofcourse. it's dependent on other bills as well. Economic Action Plan 2013 Act, No. 1 and Bill C-425

check the coordinating amendments section.

Can you explain this part more? (What does that exactly means and which clauses applies to that)

 

[chakrab]

Can you explain this part more? (What does that exactly means and which clauses applies to that)

C-425 is another bill to amend citizenship act that is in the house right now.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LEGISInfo/BillDetails.aspx?billId=5608832&Language=E&Mode=1


Corrdinating ammendents for c-24

http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&DocId=6676424&File=51#5

 

[sicko86]

C-425 is another bill to amend citizenship act that is in the house right now.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LEGISInfo/BillDetails.aspx?billId=5608832&Language=E&Mode=1


Corrdinating ammendents for c-24

http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&DocId=6676424&File=51#5

But here they are talking about certain clauses not the whole Bill ... so how this will result in delaying the enforce of the other clauses? (I mean related to new citizenship requirments)

 

[chakrab]

But here they are talking about certain clauses not the whole Bill ... so how this will result in delaying the enforce of the other clauses? (I mean related to new citizenship requirments)

chances are they may put their effort into c-425 now after c-24, so that all changes to the citizenship act happens at the same time. again, i am saying "chances", not surety.

 

[noor-blue83]

If he needs a lawyer to fill out the application forms, I'm not sure he's qualified for citizenship in the first place.

why would you say that, because I want to do every thing right means am not qualified for citizenship??? a very strange comment.
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[chakrab]

why would you say that, because I want to do every thing right means am not qualified for citizenship??? a very strange comment.
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don't mind him. he has a habit of getting personal with ppl.

 

[sicko86]

chances are they may put their effort into c-425 now after c-24, so that all changes to the citizenship act happens at the same time. again, i am saying "chances", not surety.

But Bill C-425 is frozen since a year! lol

 

[zardoz]

But Bill C-425 is frozen since a year! lol

It's also now irrelevant as it will only affect about 8 people. This is what we call a "red herring".

 

[noor-blue83]

don't mind him. he has a habit of getting personal with ppl.

I am really terrified of this whole thing. I thought I was going to be ok and apply. what do you think should do, should I go ahead and send my application (when I look at the CIC webpage it says that you can apply but a CJ will make the decision on your application) its not fraud or anything it is basically having less then 1095 days of physical presence, to be more specific 1084 days. or should wait I will have my 1095 days by July 10.
am worried because my passport expires soon and I have no ways of getting a new one with out having to go back to my country and that is impossible.

 

[sicko86]

I am really terrified of this whole thing. I thought I was going to be ok and apply. what do you think should do, should I go ahead and send my application (when I look at the CIC webpage it says that you can apply but a CJ will make the decision on your application) its not fraud or anything it is basically having less then 1095 days of physical presence, to be more specific 1084 days. or should wait I will have my 1095 days by July 10.
am worried because my passport expires soon and I have no ways of getting a new one with out having to go back to my country and that is impossible.

You should be fine by July 10th.

 

[chakrab]

I am really terrified of this whole thing. I thought I was going to be ok and apply. what do you think should do, should I go ahead and send my application (when I look at the CIC webpage it says that you can apply but a CJ will make the decision on your application) its not fraud or anything it is basically having less then 1095 days of physical presence, to be more specific 1084 days. or should wait I will have my 1095 days by July 10.
am worried because my passport expires soon and I have no ways of getting a new one with out having to go back to my country and that is impossible.

you should definitely apply with at least 1095 physical days. don't depend on CJs because they may not be there next year.

 

[polarbear]

I should be good to apply in 3 weeks too. my lawyer is saying I can apply now as he is sure the law will be passed and take effect by next week. I`m not sure what to do. what do you guys think

Your application will be rejected or you will get an RQ with judge hearing if you apply less than 1095 days.

Your lawyer is a nut crack, don't hire him.

 

[noor-blue83]

sicko86 & chakrab thank you both, I have been thinking about this all last night. I just told him to cancel the application as I will wait till I have my 1095 days but unfortunately he will not give me back my money, he only cares about getting the payments not what is right for me. he told me the law will be 100% passed next week and I will loss my chance he is causing me more stress then any thing els in the world