turboracer said:
This will help you....
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LEGISinfo/Faq.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1
Bill C-24 Second Reading on February 27th:
- Thread starter polarbear
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This will help you....
http://www.parl.gc.ca/LEGISinfo/Faq.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1
As I said before , no petition will work !!! All ppl lead by sm lawyers , influential ppl need to organize a protest with the right timing , location and legal form ... Media attention locally and internationally is the only way to even poke this process !!!
Hi ,
I cannot see any meeting scheduled for C-24 for the rest of the week in HoC however , there are atleast 3 meetings scheduled for C-24 in the Senate.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=41&Ses=2&DocId=6655159
Does anyone have an idea could Senate start its readings even before the bill is passed by HoC ?
I cannot see any meeting scheduled for C-24 for the rest of the week in HoC however , there are atleast 3 meetings scheduled for C-24 in the Senate.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=41&Ses=2&DocId=6655159
Does anyone have an idea could Senate start its readings even before the bill is passed by HoC ?
Tolerance said:
Tolerance, does your statement give us all a clue why you are so against the tightening up of the immigration/citizenship rules?
Perhaps you believe the immigration rules should be set by potential immigrants not the democratically elected government of Canada?
paw339 said:
I don't know, DOES it give you all a clue?
I am not against tightening of the immigration rules; I said as much in my previous post.
But I AM against the draconian measures it would impose (also said in my post). Treating citizens arbitrarily based on their origin, revoking their citizenship by a politician without the court of law and due process, extending the residency requirements (although I started my Canadian affair in 2007 and still do not have my citizenship) and prolonguing the suffering and separation of families (and they HAVE to separate because Canada won't let them work and prosper here)...
I believe when there are signs of fascism and abuse of power, people should oppose it, and oppose it early on. It might be too late later.
Conservative parties are concerned about the supremacy and dominance of one particular group (as evidenced by policies that accepted white immigrants from Western European countries, and rejected Asian immigrants in the past).
The cons are basing the provisions of the bill on anecdotes, and there is no data to support their claims. On the other hand, the opposition wants to include experts, is asking for data, but the cons will not divulge anything (for example, the Minister refused to divulge the cases where he granted citizenship based on his discretion; why the secrecy?).
These people don't think they are accountable to anyone, and they just want to increase their power.
When they have a bill that actually shows potential for really fixing the problems, then I will support it.
And if you are happy with living here for years, being taxed without representation (Americans started a war over it
), and being treated like nothing, then suit yourself . The bill will be law very soon, so knock yourself out .And a question back to you: do YOU support the bill? Thanks.
Tolerance said:And if you are happy with living here for years, being taxed without representation (Americans started a war over it
And a question back to you: do YOU support the bill? Thanks.
Do I support the bill? To give you a Yes or No answer I would say Yes. I do have some concerns about the removal of Citizenship (too much discretion?) , but in principle I agree with the thrust of the argument. There is also an argument to support a 5 year period for citizenship but to retain credit for pre PR time spent in Canada. I do think PR's should be allowed to vote now the time to Citizenship has been extended.
As per process the bill should be completed 3rd reading and adopted by HoC before it goes to Senate for 1st reading.. So, not sure what their plan is. It looks like Senate meetings will study the bill while the bill is still pending for 3rd reading in HoC.informatics said:
