I don't use Windows but I've grabbed the audio from today and the video from yesterday. Will grab the video from today when it's published. Ta..Tolerance said:
Bill C-24 Second Reading on February 27th:
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Simply put, it means "are you prepared to declare that if Canada grants you citizenship, you will make Canada your home?". It's very similar in concept to legislation that is already in place in many other countries, including the UK.
the cons like trolls said the following:
we will NOT provide a transitional period for current PR's that are almost eligible.
sorry guys..........guess observer was right.....see you in 1-4(depending on how long uv been a pr/left the country) years hahahaha
i cant wait for the cons to lose in 2015 and wipe the smug look on their face
we will NOT provide a transitional period for current PR's that are almost eligible.
sorry guys..........guess observer was right.....see you in 1-4(depending on how long uv been a pr/left the country) years hahahaha
i cant wait for the cons to lose in 2015 and wipe the smug look on their face
May 29, Senate, Debates (http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/Sen/Chamber/412/Debates/064db_2014-05-29-e.htm):
Senator Ogilvie: Honourable senators, this amendment provides for the possibility that should the Senate, in its wisdom, see fit to send this bill to our committee and expect us to have it done before the Senate rises for the season, this would give us the opportunity to meet the request of Senate.
The Hon. the Speaker pro tempore: Question?
Hon. Art Eggleton: I have no argument with Senator Ogilvie's amendment but I do have an argument with the pre-study, which is the main part of the motion. I think we should await the House of Commons coming through on this and decide then to proceed on the matter. It may not mean that we can deal with it quite as expeditiously as some would like, but I think we need to see what comes from the house on it. I take the adjournment in my name.
(On motion of Senator Eggleton, debate adjourned.)
Of course, Eggleton is a Liberal, appointed by Martin.
Senator Ogilvie: Honourable senators, this amendment provides for the possibility that should the Senate, in its wisdom, see fit to send this bill to our committee and expect us to have it done before the Senate rises for the season, this would give us the opportunity to meet the request of Senate.
The Hon. the Speaker pro tempore: Question?
Hon. Art Eggleton: I have no argument with Senator Ogilvie's amendment but I do have an argument with the pre-study, which is the main part of the motion. I think we should await the House of Commons coming through on this and decide then to proceed on the matter. It may not mean that we can deal with it quite as expeditiously as some would like, but I think we need to see what comes from the house on it. I take the adjournment in my name.
(On motion of Senator Eggleton, debate adjourned.)
Of course, Eggleton is a Liberal, appointed by Martin.
Look at this stuff, BC Civil Liberties Association's facebook post (https://www.facebook.com/BCCivLib), with pictures (trying to deliver the 26k petition):
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152188308203602&set=pcb.10152188341713602&type=1&theater
We made an appointment and showed up at the right time, but we were stopped from delivering the petition. It seems the government is not interested in listening to Canadians on this issue, but we urge them to reconsider.
We are a nation of equals. We come from all over the planet, but we are equal Canadians. This bill weakens the value of citizenship by making it easier to lose, and creating second class Canadians based on their family origin. More than 26 000 Canadians have called on Minister Chris Alexander to reconsider this bill.
Electronic versions of the petition have now been delivered to Minister Chris Alexander, and the opposition party critics. Additionally, we returned to the Citizenship and Immigration offices a second time, and this time we were able to deliver the hard copy.
Learn more about the bill: http://bccla.org/2014/05/challenging-misinformation-canadian-citizenship-law-explained/
Sign the petition: https://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/hon-chris-alexander-pc-mp-canadian-government-stop-bill-c-24-don-t-turn-millions-of-us-into-second-class-canadian-citizens
Share information on Bill C24 in English, French, Spanish, Farsi, Urdu, Hindi, Arabic, Chinese – traditional, Chinese – simplified , and Filipino. http://bccla.org/news/2014/06/25-000-tell-citizenship-minister-to-stop-proposed-changes-to-citizenship-law-2/#Languages
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152188308203602&set=pcb.10152188341713602&type=1&theater
We made an appointment and showed up at the right time, but we were stopped from delivering the petition. It seems the government is not interested in listening to Canadians on this issue, but we urge them to reconsider.
We are a nation of equals. We come from all over the planet, but we are equal Canadians. This bill weakens the value of citizenship by making it easier to lose, and creating second class Canadians based on their family origin. More than 26 000 Canadians have called on Minister Chris Alexander to reconsider this bill.
Electronic versions of the petition have now been delivered to Minister Chris Alexander, and the opposition party critics. Additionally, we returned to the Citizenship and Immigration offices a second time, and this time we were able to deliver the hard copy.
Learn more about the bill: http://bccla.org/2014/05/challenging-misinformation-canadian-citizenship-law-explained/
Sign the petition: https://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/hon-chris-alexander-pc-mp-canadian-government-stop-bill-c-24-don-t-turn-millions-of-us-into-second-class-canadian-citizens
Share information on Bill C24 in English, French, Spanish, Farsi, Urdu, Hindi, Arabic, Chinese – traditional, Chinese – simplified , and Filipino. http://bccla.org/news/2014/06/25-000-tell-citizenship-minister-to-stop-proposed-changes-to-citizenship-law-2/#Languages
Awesome !!! Looks like the petition did get delivered 26000 signatures
I wish luck on it being considered best wishes on it
I wish luck on it being considered best wishes on it
[quote ]turboracer said:
Immigration reform bill has 26,000 opponents, according to B.C. petition
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the globe and mail article says immigration.........thats incorrect.......it needs to be corrected to CITIZENSHIP
Looks like this will completely change the type of PRs coming in, maybe even reduce numbers in the medium to long run. Perhaps, that is what they want. Some profiling too ? I don't know what to say there.
All those who earlier landed, then went back and came back before the 2 out of 5 expired, all those sorts of things will pretty much be a thing of the past. With the reqmt to be here 183 days etc it will get tougher, for example, for people with families here where the man of the house finds better jobs overseas so his family can live with some dignity here. My heart goes out to such people...
Overall, looks like they want to cut down immigrants in the longer term (maybe fully knowing that many "Canadians" leave so just enough to make up the gap). Besides, the backlog scandal was big. I know people who waited overseas only to be told Sorry !
Wonder, if it is any consolation in the face of these double standards, that we should just be grateful we are here and go in thro the old FSW and other programs. Yes, some of us will be angry to varying degrees since we have to wait longer- esp. students and TFWs who are now PRs who will feel most let down and cheated for no pre-PR time being considered.
Meantime, unless, the Senate has some backbone and will do something.
All those who earlier landed, then went back and came back before the 2 out of 5 expired, all those sorts of things will pretty much be a thing of the past. With the reqmt to be here 183 days etc it will get tougher, for example, for people with families here where the man of the house finds better jobs overseas so his family can live with some dignity here. My heart goes out to such people...
Overall, looks like they want to cut down immigrants in the longer term (maybe fully knowing that many "Canadians" leave so just enough to make up the gap). Besides, the backlog scandal was big. I know people who waited overseas only to be told Sorry !
Wonder, if it is any consolation in the face of these double standards, that we should just be grateful we are here and go in thro the old FSW and other programs. Yes, some of us will be angry to varying degrees since we have to wait longer- esp. students and TFWs who are now PRs who will feel most let down and cheated for no pre-PR time being considered.
Meantime, unless, the Senate has some backbone and will do something.