Bill C-24 Second Reading on February 27th:

[zardoz]

It's called a "protest vote" and is quite normal mid-term. You shouldn't read too much into it. Look at how UKIP did in the UK last month. It doesn't mean that they could or would be able to govern.

 

[taleodor]

taleodor what you have just said makes no sense. Are you saying that every time there is a provincial election and the federal government party loses then they can't enact any important country-wide issues until they win a provincial election? What happens if the liberals get in at the next federal election but then lose a provincial election to the conservatives?

OMG, mate, do you know what rhetoric is?

I'm saying that there must be accountability, when you make important country-wide decisions. Accountability means that you are basing your support on something. This support for Conservatives clearly doesn't exist any more.
Unfortunately, Conservatives don't seem to have any sense of accountability at all.

 

[taleodor]

There was a vote call on bill c24 just a moment ago any .. result about it like just wondering have anyone watched it ? the result

That wasn't on the bill. They simply voted, that they won't be taking a break.

 

[surgi]

cons slowed down giving citizenship and increased the backlog to prevent increasing the population mass which vote for either Liberal or NDP. This is a very stupid maneuver because old and new naturalized citizens are frustrated and frightened from them now. They also give a a very good present to Liberals or NDP if they win the next federal and faciliatate and accelerate the process of citizenship for the backlog created by cons. Those new citizens would be supporters for this party who helped them to get citizenship. This what Francois Mitterands the ex french president won elections twice.

 

[paw339]

OMG, mate, do you know what rhetoric is?

I'm saying that there must be accountability, when you make important country-wide decisions. Accountability means that you are basing your support on something. This support for Conservatives clearly doesn't exist any more.
Unfortunately, Conservatives don't seem to have any sense of accountability at all.

The conservatives, like any political party are fully accountable to voters at each election.

C-24 won't be a major issue at the next election especially when compared to issues like the economy and the TFWS imo.

 

[taleodor]

The conservatives, like any political party are fully accountable to voters at each election.

C-24 won't be a major issue at the next election especially when compared to issues like the economy and the TFWS imo.

It will be an issue for me to go and volunteer against them. And I sincerely hope, there will be thousands more new volunteers just because of this bill. Though, you are right, there are plenty of other reasons to vote them down.

 

[paw339]

It will be an issue for me to go and volunteer against them. And I sincerely hope, there will be thousands more new volunteers just because of this bill. Though, you are right, there are plenty of other reasons to vote them down.

The trouble is the Liberals and NDP are just as bad in their own way and they're all too short sighted and don't look beyond the next election. When I do eventually get the vote, there could be no one I want to vote for ;D

 

[immigrant2008]

Anyone following the parliament talks? I am not sure what was the results of final voting!

 

[taleodor]

Seems like no vote tonight. But the debate is over, and it looks there will be a vote soon.

 

[MWM]

To be honest , I was supporting the cons , but after c-24 bill and some others bills ... I stopped . I ve a ton's of Canadian friends and their families 90 % share with me the same opinion. I prefer that cons win the next election but I don't how without fixing the things made people run to liberals.

Touching something very sensitive to all Canadians ( No matter who there parents are ) made them looks bad , as I think 50 % of the population are used to be an immigrants before .

 

[CanuckForEver]

Chris Alexander getting royally screwed by CBC. Do not miss the first 5 minutes as that is very relevant to this thread!

http://www.cbc.ca/asithappens/popupaudio.html?clipIds=2464252232,2464251942,2464254661

http://www.cbc.ca/news/immigration-minister-chris-alexander-hangs-up-on-as-it-happens-1.2672727

LOL! this is what happends when you become a chronological liar.

 

[stanka]

To be honest , I was supporting the cons , but after c-24 bill and some others bills ... I stopped . I ve a ton's of Canadian friends and their families 90 % share with me the same opinion. I prefer that cons win the next election but I don't how without fixing the things made people run to liberals.

Touching something very sensitive to all Canadians ( No matter who there parents are ) made them looks bad , as I think 50 % of the population are used to be an immigrants before .

Haha I also used to support cons. It looks like here in Alberta almost everyone supports them. But they screwed up badly with this stupid bill. Too bad.

 

[marcus66502]

the bill is much more than just residency requirements and pre-pr time. i think you are getting agitated on the wrong issue. what i said is correct. it depends on the department when things will be put into effect. i am not sure what you are arguing with me about here? you seem to say the same things that i did.

And you know this how exactly? What's your position of authority in the Government of Canada?

The department of CIC has no say whatsoever in when the bill takes effect. That's the sole prerogative of the Governor General representing the Queen of England when s/he issues royal assent on behalf of the queen (easily verifiable information in any civics textbook).

What sicko86 was saying was diametrically opposed to your assertion that the bill will take effect immediately after passage. That's just your opinion and in no way resembles fact because it cannot be confirmed with any official sources. He was saying (correctly) that there's no precedent for immediate-effect-after-passage in any past citizenship or immigration bill. This is also easily verifiable by checking the history of such bills in the past.

Go do your homework and research a little (if you're capable of that at all) before you come here and start making statements of fact. You must enjoy embarrassing yourself.

 

[O_Ca]

Liberals won the election with majority 58 seats.

NDP has also did a good job, not bad for a new party 22 seats.

Conservatives have finally learnt a good lesson

Hey folks, someone at 24 Sussex Drive is preparing his stuff for a move. Please call a mover.

 

[marcus66502]

Hey folks, someone at 24 Sussex Drive is preparing his stuff for a move. Please call a mover.

I wouldn't get too excited. This is just Ontario, a liberal-leaning province. On federal elections, when the prairie provinces get to vote as well, you'll get a different show.

The conservatives at the federal level might not be as worried as you'd like to believe.