Bill C-24 Second Reading on February 27th:

[scylla]

I wouldn't get too excited. This is just Ontario, a liberal-leaning province. On federal elections, when the prairie provinces get to vote as well, you'll get a different show.

The conservatives at the federal level might not be as worried as you'd like to believe.

Agreed. Everything West of Ontario tends to lean heavily towards the Conservatives. I don't think it was really that much of a surprise to anyone (at least it wasn't to me) that the Liberals won in Ontario last night. Ontario (and specifically Toronto) always lean more towards the Liberals and NDP. It's all pretty normal / expected. (Again IMHO.)

 

[scylla]

To add to the above, it drives me a bit insane that the NDP forced this election (at a cost of something like 90 million?). They should have left things alone.

 

[2cookies]

hello,

what happen to someone that received their citizenship (say before the bill approve) and later decide to leave canada for 2 years and decide to come back after after...will he lose their citizenship?

thx

 

[scylla]

hello,

what happen to someone that received their citizenship (say before the bill approve) and later decide to leave canada for 2 years and decide to come back after after...will he lose their citizenship?

thx

Nothing will happen to them. They will still be a Canadian citizen even if they leave Canada for 20 years.

 

[taleodor]

Agreed. Everything West of Ontario tends to lean heavily towards the Conservatives. I don't think it was really that much of a surprise to anyone (at least it wasn't to me) that the Liberals won in Ontario last night. Ontario (and specifically Toronto) always lean more towards the Liberals and NDP. It's all pretty normal / expected. (Again IMHO.)

Yes, but almost everything East of Ontario hates Conservatives wholeheartedly. Plus, let's not forget that these were GTA's MPs who provided Conservative majority in the last elections.

+ It will be my great pleasure to see Costas Menegakis loosing his seat in a year. And even greater pleasure to see Chris Alexander going same direction. Again, some work needs to be done to make this happen.

 

[zardoz]

Yes, but almost everything East of Ontario hates Conservatives wholeheartedly.

Do you have a citation to back up that statement of "fact"? The official result from the most recent election (2011) doesn't support your assertion. http://www.elections.ca/res/cir/maps/map.asp?map=PARLIMAP_41_E&lang=e

 

[dandash]

Any meetings today ??!! Can someone update us pleasse.

Thanks

 

[shaazdeh]

Any meetings today ??!! Can someone update us pleasse.

Thanks

The website said no committee meeting scheduled today at HoC! Hope it stays the same

 

[sicko86]

The website said no committee meeting scheduled today at HoC! Hope it stays the same

Guys Relax .. Senate wont be able to pass the bill anyways before June 27th... So the whole issue will go till after Summer (Sept. 15th they will meet again)

 

[Skakeholder]

Any meetings today ??!! Can someone update us pleasse.

Thanks

nothing scheduled for today in HoC in regards to C-24.

On Monday, JUNE 16, 2014:

C-24 — The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration — Strengthening Canadian Citizenship Act — Third reading

 

[chakrab]

And you know this how exactly? What's your position of authority in the Government of Canada?

The department of CIC has no say whatsoever in when the bill takes effect. That's the sole prerogative of the Governor General representing the Queen of England when s/he issues royal assent on behalf of the queen (easily verifiable information in any civics textbook).

What sicko86 was saying was diametrically opposed to your assertion that the bill will take effect immediately after passage. That's just your opinion and in no way resembles fact because it cannot be confirmed with any official sources. He was saying (correctly) that there's no precedent for immediate-effect-after-passage in any past citizenship or immigration bill. This is also easily verifiable by checking the history of such bills in the past.

Go do your homework and research a little (if you're capable of that at all) before you come here and start making statements of fact. You must enjoy embarrassing yourself.

go read my statement. i never said the entire bill will effect immediately. someone asked is there a chance. i replied there's always a chance. stop getting personal with people.

CIC does have a say as to when the bill may be effective. C-37 got the royal assent in April 17, 2008 but the CIC didn't make it effective till April 17, 2009. so you better do your research.

btw, please stop making statements that of little importance. there is no reason to embarrass oneself here. everyone here is speculating. get off your high horse. you are no more important than me here. it's just a freaking forum.

 

[taleodor]

Do you have a citation to back up that statement of "fact"? The official result from the most recent election (2011) doesn't support your assertion. http://www.elections.ca/res/cir/maps/map.asp?map=PARLIMAP_41_E&lang=e

Your map visually supports it as I look at it. Also, previous elections were in times of in / just after economic crisis. So a lot of ppl voted Conservative from the point of betting on the same horse.

I think they have a good chance to loose the Government in 2015.

 

[chakrab]

also people who are worried about two classes of citizens, seems like we already have them

https://ccrweb.ca/en/citizenship-2009-changes

 

[chakrab]

Your map visually supports it as I look at it. Also, previous elections were in times of in / just after economic crisis. So a lot of ppl voted Conservative from the point of betting on the same horse.

I think they have a good chance to loose the Government in 2015.

not until liberals get a better leader.

 

[taleodor]

also people who are worried about two classes of citizens, seems like we already have them

https://ccrweb.ca/en/citizenship-2009-changes

That was one of Conservatives' point yesterday.

However, there are 2 ways dealing with this: making things better or making thins worse and widening the gap. Conservatives choose making things worse, as usual.