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Tasneem

Star Member
May 10, 2011
127
3
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
NOC Code......
4152
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-06-2011
Med's Request
15-05-2013

Dr.Hasib

VIP Member
Jul 1, 2010
3,208
267
Toronto,ON
Category........
NOC Code......
3113
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
LANDED..........
21 Jan 2012
Tasneem said:
Hi

I am a new member. Planning to apply within this month.

I have a question. I've 2.5 years of experience in two different organization (2 + 0.5). But they fall on different NOCs. What will I do?

Thanks.
you can apply under both 2 NOCs
but check whether or not those NOCs already reached it's cap limit
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/complete-applications.asp
 

Tasneem

Star Member
May 10, 2011
127
3
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
NOC Code......
4152
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-06-2011
Med's Request
15-05-2013
Dr.Hasib said:
you can apply under both 2 NOCs
but check whether or not those NOCs already reached it's cap limit
Thanks a lot.

Another question. Which one is better, applying on my own or working through an agent/agency? Thousands of ads are publishing in the newspaper everyday. How can I find a reliable one?

In June, rules will be changed again. Is there two short time for me for applying under the current rules?

Regards

Tasneem
 

Dr.Hasib

VIP Member
Jul 1, 2010
3,208
267
Toronto,ON
Category........
NOC Code......
3113
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
LANDED..........
21 Jan 2012
Tasneem said:
Thanks a lot.

Another question. Which one is better, applying on my own or working through an agent/agency? Thousands of ads are publishing in the newspaper everyday. How can I find a reliable one?

In June, rules will be changed again. Is there two short time for me for applying under the current rules?

Regards

Tasneem
NEVER apply through consultants...
we are here to help you :)
what is your NOC/2 NOCs ?
Have you completed GT IELTS? Can you score 67 points (pass mark for FSW category)
 

Tasneem

Star Member
May 10, 2011
127
3
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
NOC Code......
4152
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-06-2011
Med's Request
15-05-2013
Dr.Hasib said:
NEVER apply through consultants...
we are here to help you :)
what is your NOC/2 NOCs ?
Have you completed GT IELTS? Can you score 67 points (pass mark for FSW category)
Thanks again. I am sooooo happy.

My husband is going to be the principal applicant. His NOC is 4152 (Social Worker).

Our point calculation is as below:

Education = 25 (Completed BSS (4 years) & MSS (1 year) in Economics from Dhaka university)
Language = 14 (R & W = 6.5, L & S = 7)
Experience = 17 (Though he has been working since his student life, full time experience can be showed < 3 years as his graduation was completed in July, 2008. I guess full time experience and MSS an be shown in together, correct me if I am wrong)
Age = 10
Adaptability = 4 (I have completed BBA (4 years) from Dhaka Unbiversity in 2009)
Total point = 70

Documents we have collected so far:
1. Academic transcripts (his BSS & MSS, my BBA) in sealed envelope.
2. Police clearance of me & my husband (not for our child who is 8 months old).
3. Experience certificate from my workplace (working in a bank since Feb 01, 2010; not sure whether this document is required).
4. Marriage certificate in English.
5. Passports of 3 of us (my husband's one is old passport while my & my son's are machine readable)
6. GT IELTS result of my husband (result published on 19 March, 2011).
7. Testimonial from university (we are doing MBA (Evening) in 'Banking' together in Dhaka University which is expected to be complete in April 2012. not sure whether we'll submit these but collected in case they are required to show).

Document not in hand yet:
1. My husband's experience certificate (which is the most important one)

My husband is working in a development agency as a project coordinator since January 01, 2011. His JD fits well with NOC 4152. Before that, from August 2008 to September 15, 2010, he worked in different organizations in different roles, which we are planning to arrange from one organization as a single occupation (which will be the only face part of our application). However, he has been working with a reputed voluntary youth & student association since 7 years (approx.) and is now the president of that organization. But as it's not a paid one, it won't be accepted as experience I guess, so not sure whether we will show it or not.

Both of us are too busy with jobs, studies, baby, etc. and finding it very difficult to manage time for this purpose. Please guide us how to start.

Regards

Tasneem
 

Dr.Hasib

VIP Member
Jul 1, 2010
3,208
267
Toronto,ON
Category........
NOC Code......
3113
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
LANDED..........
21 Jan 2012
I sent you a PM (private message).

thanks
Dr.Hasib

Tasneem said:
Thanks again. I am sooooo happy.

My husband is going to be the principal applicant. His NOC is 4152 (Social Worker).

Our point calculation is as below:

Education = 25 (Completed BSS (4 years) & MSS (1 year) in Economics from Dhaka university)
Language = 14 (R & W = 6.5, L & S = 7)
Experience = 17 (Though he has been working since his student life, full time experience can be showed < 3 years as his graduation was completed in July, 2008. I guess full time experience and MSS an be shown in together, correct me if I am wrong)
Age = 10
Adaptability = 4 (I have completed BBA (4 years) from Dhaka Unbiversity in 2009)
Total point = 70

Documents we have collected so far:
1. Academic transcripts (his BSS & MSS, my BBA) in sealed envelope.
2. Police clearance of me & my husband (not for our child who is 8 months old).
3. Experience certificate from my workplace (working in a bank since Feb 01, 2010; not sure whether this document is required).
4. Marriage certificate in English.
5. Passports of 3 of us (my husband's one is old passport while my & my son's are machine readable)
6. GT IELTS result of my husband (result published on 19 March, 2011).
7. Testimonial from university (we are doing MBA (Evening) in 'Banking' together in Dhaka University which is expected to be complete in April 2012. not sure whether we'll submit these but collected in case they are required to show).

Document not in hand yet:
1. My husband's experience certificate (which is the most important one)

My husband is working in a development agency as a project coordinator since January 01, 2011. His JD fits well with NOC 4152. Before that, from August 2008 to September 15, 2010, he worked in different organizations in different roles, which we are planning to arrange from one organization as a single occupation (which will be the only face part of our application). However, he has been working with a reputed voluntary youth & student association since 7 years (approx.) and is now the president of that organization. But as it's not a paid one, it won't be accepted as experience I guess, so not sure whether we will show it or not.

Both of us are too busy with jobs, studies, baby, etc. and finding it very difficult to manage time for this purpose. Please guide us how to start.

Regards

Tasneem
 

jnathan

VIP Member
Feb 3, 2009
4,513
142
Category........
Visa Office......
Sheng Chiu
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21st Jan 2010
Doc's Request.
10th March 2010
AOR Received.
10th June 2010
IELTS Request
provided
File Transfer...
IN PROCESS: 12th October, 2010
Med's Request
Withdrawal Request sent....Was waiting for files to return....instead of returning the files, VO sent the MR !!
Med's Done....
28 May 2012
Passport Req..
24 July 2012
Tasneem

something fishy !
He is not a paid employee, yet youre saying he is working.
CIC would never believe that.
not to scare you but anything fraudulent will be a prime reason for refusal.

I'll get back to your posts and write more in a a few hours.
 

Dr.Hasib

VIP Member
Jul 1, 2010
3,208
267
Toronto,ON
Category........
NOC Code......
3113
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
LANDED..........
21 Jan 2012
jnathan said:
Tasneem

something fishy !
He is not a paid employee, yet youre saying he is working.
CIC would never believe that.
not to scare you but anything fraudulent will be a prime reason for refusal.

I'll get back to your posts and write more in a a few hours.
jnathan,
you misunderstood. Tasneem's hubby has been doing an extra job for the last 7 years which is voluntary/unpaid. He has paid employment as social worker for less than 3 years. therefore, he can apply under FSW category as social worker :)
 

imu

Hero Member
Jan 22, 2010
670
38
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Tasneem said:
Dear tasneem,



good to hear that you are applying as a social worker . This occupation requires solely degrees in social work. I have read elsewhere that some applications were refused for not having the degrees in social work. but those candidates had many years of experience in different refuted organizations. I am writing this message to discourage or hurt someone else but to unveil the truth.it seems that your educational qualification doesn't comply with the employment requirements .please go the link to see what it describes http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2006/QuickSearch.aspx?val65=4152.may be there are some options ahead !

wishes

imu
 

imu

Hero Member
Jan 22, 2010
670
38
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Dear all Bangladeshi applicants!

look into the case , after sending an e-mail to the visa office regarding the addition of the new born, i gut a reply from the visa office . among other instructions , the following instructions can be of your food for thought! previously, i sent bank draft from some other banks but now things are changing ! the following is forwarded to me .they asked me to send a processing fee from the following mentioned bank.


"a) a processing fee in the form of a bank draft for C$150, payable to "Receiver General for Canada"

FOR BANGLADESH: the only acceptable bank draft from Bangladesh is one drawn on the Standard Chartered Bank. Please ensure that the bank does not forward your bank draft to the Visa Section. If your application is received at this office without the correct processing fee attached, it will be returned to you.
"


it seems that they prefer the Standard Chartered Bank for fee payment too.


imu
 

Dr.Hasib

VIP Member
Jul 1, 2010
3,208
267
Toronto,ON
Category........
NOC Code......
3113
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
LANDED..........
21 Jan 2012
imu said:
Dear all Bangladeshi applicants!

look into the case , after sending an e-mail to the visa office regarding the addition of the new born, i gut a reply from the visa office . among other instructions , the following instructions can be of your food for thought! previously, i sent bank draft from some other banks but now things are changing ! the following is forwarded to me .they asked me to send a processing fee from the following mentioned bank.


"a) a processing fee in the form of a bank draft for C$150, payable to "Receiver General for Canada"

FOR BANGLADESH: the only acceptable bank draft from Bangladesh is one drawn on the Standard Chartered Bank. Please ensure that the bank does not forward your bank draft to the Visa Section. If your application is received at this office without the correct processing fee attached, it will be returned to you.
"


it seems that they prefer the Standard Chartered Bank for fee payment too.


imu
I sent my processing fee (bank draft) by Commercial bank of ceylon & it was encashed
 

Dr.Hasib

VIP Member
Jul 1, 2010
3,208
267
Toronto,ON
Category........
NOC Code......
3113
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
LANDED..........
21 Jan 2012
imu said:
Dear tasneem,



good to hear that you are applying as a social worker . This occupation requires solely degrees in social work. I have read elsewhere that some applications were refused for not having the degrees in social work. but those candidates had many years of experience in different refuted organizations. I am writing this message to discourage or hurt someone else but to unveil the truth.it seems that your educational qualification doesn't comply with the employment requirements .please go the link to see what it describes http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2006/QuickSearch.aspx?val65=4152.may be there are some options ahead !

wishes

imu
it wont be a problem. according to OP6 booklet "educational requirement" will not be considered for FSW category. Some members applied as social worker had BSS in economics & got PER. Main thing is job duties. He/she must have work exp as social worker.
 

jnathan

VIP Member
Feb 3, 2009
4,513
142
Category........
Visa Office......
Sheng Chiu
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21st Jan 2010
Doc's Request.
10th March 2010
AOR Received.
10th June 2010
IELTS Request
provided
File Transfer...
IN PROCESS: 12th October, 2010
Med's Request
Withdrawal Request sent....Was waiting for files to return....instead of returning the files, VO sent the MR !!
Med's Done....
28 May 2012
Passport Req..
24 July 2012
Dr Hasib,

what imu said could be right; the case would be a 50-50 chance. there are critical visa officers who would cross check educational degrees with experience demonstrated. There are banks in Dhaka like Citi NA, HSBC who could fry Standard Chartered. China is world's 2nd largest economy and HSBC is Europe's largest bank, Citi NA is among top 5 banks in North America. I wonder why CHC Singapore would accept bank drafts from SCB only. CIC got fraudulent bank solvency papers from all others banks except SCB?
 

Dr.Hasib

VIP Member
Jul 1, 2010
3,208
267
Toronto,ON
Category........
NOC Code......
3113
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
LANDED..........
21 Jan 2012
Jnathan,
I still believe he is eligible to apply under FSW category.
According to OP6 instruction guide: http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/resources/manuals/op/op06-eng.pdf

Section 6.1; page 13

For the purposes of skilled worker applications, the ”Employment Requirements” listed in the
description of each occupation are not applicable
[refer to R80(3)]

Section: 12.13. Experience, PAGE: 41

Officers must:
• consider only those occupations which the applicant has specified and for which the applicant
has provided the four-digit NOC code on their application form (R80(6));
not take into account whether the applicant meets the “Employment requirements” description
set forth in the NOC for the occupation(s) listed (R80(3));


By the way, if a Dentist/Doctor apply as Social worker claiming that he has 5 years work exp as social worker or if a social worker apply as Dentist claiming that he has work exp as Dentist then VO will definitely reject it.(as qualification & work exp is totally irrelevant)
As Tasneem's hubby has BSS in economics (this falls under faculty of social science) so his Bachelor is related to social worker. Most importantly, he has been working as social worker,therefore case officers might not reject his application

regards,
Dr.Hasib
 

jnathan

VIP Member
Feb 3, 2009
4,513
142
Category........
Visa Office......
Sheng Chiu
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21st Jan 2010
Doc's Request.
10th March 2010
AOR Received.
10th June 2010
IELTS Request
provided
File Transfer...
IN PROCESS: 12th October, 2010
Med's Request
Withdrawal Request sent....Was waiting for files to return....instead of returning the files, VO sent the MR !!
Med's Done....
28 May 2012
Passport Req..
24 July 2012
As Tasneem's hubby has BSS in economics (this falls under faculty of social science) so his Bachelor is related to social worker. Most importantly, he has been working as social worker,therefore case officers might not reject his application

regards,
Dr.Hasib


THAT IS WHERE the chance stays at 50-50.

Dr Hasib,

Many things are written on OP6, on the break of recession and other toughness in recent times of Canadian immigration, those rules have not been followed to their fullest.

look at arlnr and me, we have been told by our VO's that, we will see if your relative is well established and earning well in Canada before we could give you the relative points you have claimed; it means no visa till this condition is met. OP6 says that if you got 1st blood relative, you will get the points no matter your relative is a beggar or a billionaire is Canada. at the same time in OP6 visa officer's whims have been honored as well by saying that the VO can deny any case arbitrarily.