Applied Inland for my American wife, travel back to USA in meantime?

[torontomike]

Uh...hopefully you are joking, right?!?!

Actually, not really, Ponga. She becomes very disgruntled at times and it does put strain on me and the marriage.

 

[Rob_TO]

This is becoming a hazard for my marriage... she gets very disenchanted not being able to take a short trip to visit,

Then why did you apply inland and not outland??

 

[torontomike]

Then why did you apply inland and not outland??

For the simple reason that at the time of application I would not have been able to show the amount of income required to meet the mandatory minimum income on the financial evaluation, which is done for the Outland but not the Inland. Also, she does not do well with long distance, which for a long time our relationships had been and it became a real problem.

 

[jomz]

For the simple reason that at the time of application I would not have been able to show the amount of income required to meet the mandatory minimum income on the financial evaluation, which is done for the Outland but not the Inland. Also, she does not do well with long distance, which for a long time our relationships had been and it became a real problem.

I hope you didn't pay a lawyer or a consultant for this information
For inland and outland spousal sponsorship same eligibility criteria apply (re income) unless you are in QC which has its own assessment on which rules I cannot comment.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

For the simple reason that at the time of application I would not have been able to show the amount of income required to meet the mandatory minimum income on the financial evaluation, which is done for the Outland but not the Inland. Also, she does not do well with long distance, which for a long time our relationships had been and it became a real problem.

You have been given some VERY BAD ADVICE.

There is NO mandatory minimum income requirement for spousal sponsorship, inland or outland. For both types of applications, you must show that you can support yourselves without social assistance; this can be done with any combination of family support, savings, both of your incomes, a good plan outlining how you will manage etc. There have been many unemployed/low income/part-time people who have successfully sponsored their spouses.

As well, outland and inland refer solely to where the application is processed, NOT where the applicant currently is. It is perfectly legal and acceptable to file an outland application while in Canada and to remain in Canada throughout the processing.

 

[scylla]

As well, outland and inland refer solely to where the application is processed, NOT where the applicant currently is. It is perfectly legal and acceptable to file an outland application while in Canada and to remain in Canada throughout the processing.

Agreed. My husband is American and we applied outland. He effectively lived in Canada while the application was being processed - but did travel in and out of the country for short business trips.

Anyway, I think it's water under the bridge now. They picked inland and have to live with that. Although I certainly agree that if there was any legal / consultant advice involved here - they should be looking for a full refund because that individual provided horrible guidance.

 

[Ponga]

Obviously it would make no sense to cancel your inland application and start over as an outland applicant. Perhaps you can have a `loving, calm, supportive' discussion about the fact that you did what you thought was right and that you will just have to wait for this to play out, or truly take your chances to cross the border.

Not doing well with a long distance relationship is understandable.

Becoming `very disenchanted' by not being able to take short trips or visit, is a bit less understandable, IMHO.

Good luck!

 

[torontomike]

Actually I did not require advice for this decision, but came to it from researching (including reading gazillions of posts on this forum). It is actually a fact that the inland application does NOT require the financial evaluation form to be completed whereas the outland does. Therefore, it can be reasonably inferred that the financial bar for the outland application to meet is at least more explicit.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Actually I did not require advice for this decision, but came to it from researching (including reading gazillions of posts on this forum). It is actually a fact that the inland application does NOT require the financial evaluation form to be completed whereas the outland does. Therefore, it can be reasonably inferred that the financial bar for the outland application to meet is at least more explicit.

No, it's not a fact.

The Financial Evaluation form, IMM1283, is required by both inland and outland apps when the sponsor or sponsored spouse has a dependent child who has a child of their own, i.e. 3 generations.

If there is only a spouse or a spouse with dependent children to sponsor, then both inland and outland apps require the Sponsorship Evaluation, IMM5481.

 

[Ponga]

No, it's not a fact.

The Financial Evaluation form, IMM1283, is required by both inland and outland apps when the sponsor or sponsored spouse had a dependent child who has a child of their own, i.e. 3 generations.

If there is only a spouse or a spouse with dependent children to sponsor, then both inland and outland apps require the Sponsorship Evaluation, IMM5481.

It appears the point is moot, as the OP would likely not cancel the Inland application this late in the game, and re-apply Outland to pacify his wife. It's too bad they didn't know all of this before they applied Inland.

Hang in there torontomike...

 

[Becki567]

Torontomike, I sympathize with an unhappy spouse at home. They are often bored. Does she have friends? Hobbies?

Remind her this is temporary, AND luckily her family is not that far and can visit her! Once you get past this hurdle then you can come and go as you please.

But FYI, Outland spousal sponsorship does NOT require a minimum income.

 

[QuebecOkie]

Many were the months that I rued our decision to apply inland! (Another American here, with a Canadian husband.) We thought, when we first put our app together, that it was "dishonest" or even strictly forbidden to apply outland while I was living here in Canada with him. To make our situation worse, personally, he's military, and he spend over six months of our first year here living away from home, including 4.5 of the first 5 months. So I had the worst of both worlds; I was living 3000km from my family and most of my friends, yet I didn't even have the comfort of having my beloved at home with me for much of that time. (AND I didn't speak any French when I arrived! He's bilingual, but I'm still learning, and we're in a VERY, VERY French area of Québec. Good times.)

I saw my sister, mother, and nephew in early July of 2012, right before the move. I didn't see them again, or any of my closest friends except one who was able to visit me, until this past Christmas. I had to "meet" my nephew again, as he was 10 months the last time I had seen him, and he was over two years old by Christmas 2013. It was hard. VERY hard. I cried. Sometimes I cried a lot. I cried in parking lots after getting frustrated by the language barrier while grocery shopping, and I cried on the sofa as I laid down to sleep (I can't usually sleep well in our bed while he's gone). Sometimes I cried during skype sessions with my hubby or with friends or family, though I tried to keep a brave face for them. Especially my mom.

I say all of this just to say, yep, it SUCKS. I can empathize completely with your wife. COMPLETELY! But it's just one of those things that you've got to live through, to just keep on breathing until it's a memory of the past, and not the current situation. It will pass, in time, and then she can look back and smile and say to herself, "Man, that was tough, but it's over now. You know, I'm probably stronger for it." I know that I'm more secure in and appreciative of my relationship with my husband than ever before, since we made it through one of the most frustrating and challenging times of our lives together. I know, after what I went through to be with him, what I gave up to be with him, that he's worth every moment of it. I'd do it all again if I had to (but thank GOODNESS I don't, lol!). Hold on to each other, and keep reminding yourselves that it's worth all of this to be together. Best wishes!

 

[hwanlj]

Actually I did not require advice for this decision, but came to it from researching (including reading gazillions of posts on this forum). It is actually a fact that the inland application does NOT require the financial evaluation form to be completed whereas the outland does. Therefore, it can be reasonably inferred that the financial bar for the outland application to meet is at least more explicit.

I'm sorry that your wife is having hard time being here... But just to let you, and any other people who hasn't applied yet know there is NO income requirement for spousal sponsorship whether it is Outland or inland....

 

[Rob_TO]

Actually I did not require advice for this decision, but came to it from researching (including reading gazillions of posts on this forum). It is actually a fact that the inland application does NOT require the financial evaluation form to be completed whereas the outland does. Therefore, it can be reasonably inferred that the financial bar for the outland application to meet is at least more explicit.

Where do you think you read this?
As others have mentioned, there is most definitely NO financial evaluation for outland, so you should really check your source of info again.

 

[scylla]

It is actually a fact that the inland application does NOT require the financial evaluation form to be completed whereas the outland does. Therefore, it can be reasonably inferred that the financial bar for the outland application to meet is at least more explicit.

Yeah - what others have said. There's no distinction between inland and outland when it comes to spousal sponsorship and financial evaluation. There is no minimum income for sponsoring a spouse regardless of which path you choose. The minimum income rules apply to other relatives - not spouses.