Applications after 26/6 in any NOC CONNECT HERE TO GET THE STATUS

[noolan]

Hi,

sorry for the absence. I was busy in preparing the application package again as the first one was lost when it was returned by CIC. almost done now. although without IELTS!!!
I remember some one posted here about making the application package as user friendly as possible etc. He also gave the list of all what he sent to Sydney NS. Can anyone please direct me to that page? or anyone who wrote that could certainly help..... looking for that in all these pages will be difficult, so if some one could plz help.....

Thanks in advance and
wish me luck for this time......

 

[danishsoomro]

Don't rush to judgement so quickly, or you may find that one who makes assumptions without thorough analysis is someone other than myself.

It's not just about a landmass that must be populated, it's also about overall coherence of fabric of society and sustainability by same of the rate of incoming population. May be in the long run Canada will need X hundred millions people to populate it's land (that would still be at less than half the density of US), yet it doesn't mean that bringing those same number of people in one day tomorrow will achieve anything short of plunging the whole country into total chaos and disorganisation.

Yes, it still needs skilled immigrants, but at a far less rate and scale than the actual number of apps they receive.


It's all about limited resources and priority of tasks. That's all there is. If they have 50 or 5000 people doing their jobs at CIC NS and all VO's respectively then they are likely to use their resources to complete tasks in the order of priority.
Sending AOR's for post June 26 applicants simply may not be a priority for them at the time. And why should it be? There are people waiting since 2007 to get apps processed, why putting resources to do eligibility reviews and hastily sending AOR for post June 26 apps should be a priority now?
Or what if they don't want to issue post June AOR's unless they are fairly confident that apps will go further in processing at VO ? What if...? What if...? We can speculate endlessly about the actual cause of delay, but the apparent fact is that so far issuing AOR's for post June apps wasn't a priority. If the call center's responce on the phone about 33 weeks waiting time is accurate, then it just confirms that AOR is not on their priority list as of now and they don't expect this to change anytime soon (granted that call center itself gave most updated processing information rather than read off-script to decrease volume of calls asking questions they can't answer anyway).

As to "educated people who will decide to find a different country to apply for", i think you should read the news reports from all over the world, you will see that there are not awful a lot of developed countries that offer speedier processing or more open arms than Canada. Migration of EU natinals within European borders notwithstanding, what other developed country in the world still accepts apps from skilled professionals without any sponsorship or job offer?
If there are ANY then may be it's a rational choice for skilled immigrants in rush to immigrate to those other countries , that would achieve a few beneficial goals at once: further decrease apps influx at CIC and thus increase demand and timeliness of future processing and thus balance the field.

What you think is a 'undesirable consequence for Canada' may be what they actually desire to see happening.


I was checking those same CAP's almost daily, just out of curiosity how many apps are currently being accepted for processing.

That 19 of those categories haven't filled tells me that Canada needs kind of skilled workers that it didn't get in past 2 decades while it was getting oversupply of applicants for positions needed only in limited numbers.

Suppose there are 5 million professors or IT specialists all over the world, who speak perfect English, have multiple advanced degrees, more than enough funds in savings accounts to get points under regulations and so on. What is good in it for Canada to bring them all over and have them sweep the streets for the rest of their lives because there are not 5 million IT or professorship positions vacant there?

But there may well be more than 1000 openings for crane operators to settle and work in Canada, yet no crane operator apparently qualifies under point requirements or simply doesn't want to apply.

I am sure when current X hundred thousand backlog is cleared and 1000 carne operators is all that Canada has open on it's list of skilled occupations, i am sure at such point (if it ever happens so) it will probably soften it's point requerements, may even offer some special incentives just to bring any crane operators they can and may even go to lengths to search for crane operators and make cold calls and extend almost personal and individual welcome to anyone willing to operates cranes there.

But that's not what we see as of this moment, now do we?


If it is so then why are there hundred/s of thousands of apps, some going back to 2007 and still to be processed?

This is a wishful thinking. I am talking about real circumstances and facts that anyone can observe.

They did not ask you to pay, you chose to file app and pay to have it processed.

And you are not really a customer (although technically you are), you are more like a potential employee, of ONE huge company that has few positions open while HUNDREDS or THOUSANDS of resumes are still being processed in a backlog.
And now you demand them to give special attention and quickly answer all aplicants whose resume goes to the next step.
I don't think they feel themselves in a position where they are compelled to heed your demand, yet they are nice enough to bother to reply to many who had sent written inquiries.

Overall, we should give a credit for what they do and not take anything for granted.

i read everything, what you have said its too sophisticated for masses. I agree with you 110% as its all logical and convincing.
Thanks

 

[Pippin]

Hi Noolan....OF COURSE we wish you luck!!!! You will find anil's list on pg 54 of the "IMPORTANT - need to send all docs to CIO" thread at the top of the forum page. Fingers crossed. How are you going to deal with the IELTS issue?

 

[EnvioZA]

Hi All,
Reading all the comments of wise forumers here.
Can anyone show me that CIC promised anywhere in the guide line that they will issue AOR in one/two/three or even five or six month after receiving our applications???
I can't see that anywhere. So what's the deal here??

But if you know well than you must have noticed that for PRE-JUNE applicants ( I applied before on 2008 under simplified appl. process) they stated clearly that they will inform in 1 month after VO receives you application, and I received aor in a month from Manila VO.
My point is this is first time applications are sent to CIO at NS.
MY POINT IS , WE ARE IN NEW PROCESS AND WE SIMPLY CAN NOT DEMAND THAT THEY WILL ANSWER US AS QUICKLY AS WE WANT THEM TO.
As someone said in this thread before "we need canada more than canada needs us".
So let's be patient guys and hope for the best outcome.
Even if we cry and die here they will issue AOR when it's time for them.
I wish all of us get excellent final result.
Cheers.

 

[carl128]

Whats happening here right now is that we are all getting impatient, its like we are all in line waiting to be served but apprently theres no food yet, so to alleviate our anxiety we started talking, discussing, explaining to each other until we reach to the point wherein our discussion is going in circle. We just keep on repeating everything and yet theres no food. The point here is, this could've been avoided if we receive something like, "hey we received your applications, wait for 33 weeks for us to evaluate your papers, until that time dont call us."

 

[noolan]

Hi Noolan....OF COURSE we wish you luck!!!! You will find anil's list on pg 54 of the "IMPORTANT - need to send all docs to CIO" thread at the top of the forum page. Fingers crossed. How are you going to deal with the IELTS issue?

Thanks Pippin....i am gonna send the photocopy of the result, and will attach the email sent by british council which stated that they will only send it to chc themselves.....and for that they need my file number.....
lets see how it goes....

 

[nitroxn]

I know that all the people are very anxious to get the first AOR. As long as no one has received, its OK I guess. But we have take into consideration about the time it will take for processing after the first AOR is received. I am sure that CIC is arranging something pretty big to process the applications faster. In the mean time we wait, we can certainly work towards settling in the Maple Country by taking certifications, degrees, work experience. We should make the best of the time we have.

Keep cool everyone.

 

[EnvioZA]

we can certainly work towards settling in the Maple Country by taking certifications, degrees, work experience. We should make the best of the time we have.

[/quote]
Can't agree more since arriving in Canada is merely the beginning.

 

[Bindu]

Hi Pippin,

Very Good Quote, yes we live in the hope of deliverance ( for now it is from CIC)

Cheers
Bindu

We flock to this thread like moths to a light,
many times a day and into the night,
to read fascinating theories and hopes laid bare.
Please be gentle and respond with care.

 

[Bindu]

Me too I'm addicted to this forum and cant kick it off my mind...

Cheers
Bindu

Cam: An excellent summation of our highs and lows on this thread. Just like family with our tiffs and triumphs. Some of us may have to go through a 12 Step Programme to get OFF the Forum!!!
A-d-d-i-c-t-e-d~

 

[EnvioZA]

Me too I'm addicted to this forum and cant kick it off my mind...

Cheers
Bindu

@ Bindu

hahaha... .. Bindu dosto, I am in the same boat with you.
Probably I need rehab to kick the butt of this Addiction or soon I will be a subject of Eviction (by my wife!! )

 

[indira_prab]

Hi,

sorry for the absence. I was busy in preparing the application package again as the first one was lost when it was returned by CIC. almost done now. although without IELTS!!!
I remember some one posted here about making the application package as user friendly as possible etc. He also gave the list of all what he sent to Sydney NS. Can anyone please direct me to that page? or anyone who wrote that could certainly help..... looking for that in all these pages will be difficult, so if some one could plz help.....

Thanks in advance and
wish me luck for this time......

Hi Noolan,

Here's the list for you

S.No. Document Type
MAIN APPLICATIONS & FEES
1. CIO - Document Checklists ORIGINAL PRINT OUT
2. PR Application - IMM 0008 - Generic (by Self) ORIGINAL PRINT OUT
3. Schedule-1 Bkg Declaration (by self) ORIGINAL PRINT OUT
4. Schedule-1 Bkg Declaration (by Spouse) ORIGINAL PRINT OUT
5. Schedule-3 Economy Classes FSW (by self) ORIGINAL PRINT OUT
6. IMM 5406 - Additional Family Info (by self) ORIGINAL PRINT OUT
7. IMM 5406 - Additional Family Info (by spouse) ORIGINAL PRINT OUT
8. IMM 5620 - Fee Payment Form (by self) Through CC ORIGINAL PRINT OUT
9. IMM 5476 - Use of Representative (IF APPLICABLE) ORIGINAL PRINT OUT(Hope you are not using one and so skip it)
10. Passport Bio-Data page -Photocopy (self) Notarized Copy
11. 2-Self Addressed Mailing Label (1- ENG/2-Native lang) ORIGINAL PRINT OUT
12. IELTS Test Score Card (self) ORIGINAL TRF
13. Fee Payment (Already provided in #8 paying thru CC/BD) N/A
VISA SPECIFIC DOCUMENTS
14. Visa Office - Document Checklists ORIGINAL PRINT OUT (tick mark)
15. Birth Certificate (Self) Notarized Copy
16. Birth Certificate (Spouse) Notarized Copy
17. Marriage Certificate (Translated & Certified Copy) Notarized Copy
18. Birth Certificate (Child-1) Notarized Copy
19. Birth Certificate (Child-2) Notarized Copy
20. Passport Photocopy (all Pages) (Self)* Notarized Copy (1st Page)
21. Passport Photocopy (all Pages) (Spouse)* Notarized Copy (1st Page)
22. Passport Photocopy (all Pages) (Child-1) Notarized Copy (1st Page)
23. Passport Photocopy (all Pages) (Child-2) Notarized Copy (1st Page)
24. Travel History Info (Self) (Own Format) ORIGINAL PRINT OUT
25. Travel History Info (Spouse) (Own Format) ORIGINAL PRINT OUT
*If traveled on old passport attach photocopy (all pages)
EDUCATIONAL DOCUMENTS (SELF)
26. Class - X Certificate (Self) Notarized Copy
27. Class - XII Certificate (Self) Notarized Copy
28. Class - X Certificate (Spouse) Notarized Copy
29. Class - XII Certificate (Spouse) Notarized Copy
30. Degree documents (Self, and spouse) Notarized Copy(Please get the transcripts in Univ sealed envelopes)
31. PG documents (Self, and spouse) Notarized Copy(Please get the transcripts in Univ sealed envelopes)
The envelope may contain a copy of the degree, transcripts, mark sheets etc.)
32. Professional registration certificate and documents Notarized copy

EMPLOYMENT DOCUMENTS (SELF & SPOUSE)
40. Company-1 (Appointment Letter Copy) (Self & Spouse) Notarized Copy
41. Company-1 (Relieving Letter Copy) (Self & Spouse) Notarized Copy
42. Company-1 (Experience / Reference Letter) (Self & Spouse) ORIGINAL
43. Company-2 (Appointment Letter Copy) (Self & Spouse) Notarized Copy
44. Company-2 (Experience / Reference Letter) (Self & Spouse) ORIGINAL

Note: In short, you can just provide notarized employment contracts and reference letters from every employer. That should do.

OTHER DOCUMENTS
45. Bank certification letter (Self or accompanying Spouse) ORIGINAL


Good luck with your application

Thanks,

Indira Prabhakaran.

 

[Cappuccino]

Hello Wayne,
Please add me to the Spreadsheet. I have been a keen follower of this forum. Isent my appl;ication on Oct 1st and it reached Sydney on Oct 6th.

AOR waiting
PCC waiting
Medicals Waiting
Visa as a PR waiting

Thanks aSHOK..

Hi, welcome! Can you please tell me your NOC code, the manor of payment (CC or BD) and has it been charged/cashed yet?

Wayne.

 

[Cappuccino]

From the CIC website - Guide 7000- (Latest)

There are certain things you can do to help ensure that your application is processed as promptly as possible by the office:

1) Make sure that all the documentation and information requested is provided at the time your application is made.

2) Make sure that you notify the Canadian Visa Office promptly of any and all changes to your mailing address, family composition, or any other information that is important to your application, such as additional education or work experience.

3) Make sure to provide up to date, clear, legible contact information.

4) Refrain from making unnecessary inquiries to the Canadian Visa Office regarding the status of your application.

Currently I see our enquiries as necessary. If they'd update their website to keep us better informed and tell us why they've just thrown in this extra 33 week delay, then our enquiries would not be necessary.

Wayne.

 

[Coffee]

All they will achieve is that people with a lot of knowledge about the immigration process will chose NOT to stay on this forum after they get their visa, because they were so sick of being negged whilst they were here.

Wayne.

Wayne, I want to say that this is OUR thread, and we are not moving away. these + or - could be given by temp visitors to our room and have no impact on me personally, as I even did not look at that part until you noted you was negged.