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[canada0801]

Hi Pippin:

Yes, I believe the PCC issue, if not addressed, will cause delays for some applicants. It is unfortunate. The system in place is new, I am sure with better communication between applicants and CIC, that the little glitches will be taken care of eventually. Speaking of all our impatience with the immigration process, a little perspective may be in order...

Any one of us could have been born anywhere, from the slums of Haiti or Sudan, to the UK or USA. The point is, where we are born and the life that awaits us is out of our control. Similarly, whether our parents are rich or poor, is also out of our control... It is a lottery really, some of us are born into various luxuries, and many others have to fight all their lives to obtain those same things.

Those of us who were born into injustice and poverty, but who later struggled and obtained a good education, seek to make our world a better place. Through this quest we realize there are other places on earth where life is much better, where there is respect for the individual's rights, where there is freedom, and a much better future for our children. Therefore millions of people line up to get in those few countries that offer these values, but those nations can only let a limited number to get in. For if the world was without borders, the very societies that have been created in these countries would be threatened.

There is no such a thing as a perfect immigration system or process, nothing is perfect. Canada is dealing with literally millions of people knocking on their doors, begging to get in, to share their prosperity... and they are being kind enough to accommodate as many of us as possible. It is an enormous task... and we are lucky they are letting people in to begin with. The doors have been closing to immigrants in many other Western Countries... and yes, I realize Canada needs immigrants too, but the millions that are standing in line to get in tell me, we need Canada much more than they need us...

I am as frustrated as anyone else, and remind myself daily to be patient, but I truly think they are doing the best they can under the circumstances... we have not mail-ordered something and it is late... this is real life, where millions of people have lined up looking to enter one of those few places left, that in their view is the closest thing to a utopia that currently exists.

Sorry about the rant,
Cam

Mostly agreed. We need Canada more than Canada needs us. We should be grateful that Canada even considers our applications.

Wish you all good luck!

 

[johnyusa]

Hi Pippin:

Yes, I believe the PCC issue, if not addressed, will cause delays for some applicants. It is unfortunate. The system in place is new, I am sure with better communication between applicants and CIC, that the little glitches will be taken care of eventually. Speaking of all our impatience with the immigration process, a little perspective may be in order...

Any one of us could have been born anywhere, from the slums of Haiti or Sudan, to the UK or USA. The point is, where we are born and the life that awaits us is out of our control. Similarly, whether our parents are rich or poor, is also out of our control... It is a lottery really, some of us are born into various luxuries, and many others have to fight all their lives to obtain those same things.

Those of us who were born into injustice and poverty, but who later struggled and obtained a good education, seek to make our world a better place. Through this quest we realize there are other places on earth where life is much better, where there is respect for the individual's rights, where there is freedom, and a much better future for our children. Therefore millions of people line up to get in those few countries that offer these values, but those nations can only let a limited number to get in. For if the world was without borders, the very societies that have been created in these countries would be threatened.

There is no such a thing as a perfect immigration system or process, nothing is perfect. Canada is dealing with literally millions of people knocking on their doors, begging to get in, to share their prosperity... and they are being kind enough to accommodate as many of us as possible. It is an enormous task... and we are lucky they are letting people in to begin with. The doors have been closing to immigrants in many other Western Countries... and yes, I realize Canada needs immigrants too, but the millions that are standing in line to get in tell me, we need Canada much more than they need us...

I am as frustrated as anyone else, and remind myself daily to be patient, but I truly think they are doing the best they can under the circumstances... we have not mail-ordered something and it is late... this is real life, where millions of people have lined up looking to enter one of those few places left, that in their view is the closest thing to a utopia that currently exists.

Sorry about the rant,
Cam

Well said! Cam

 

[Bindu]

Hi Canada_future,

I tend to disagree on the point that CIC will be doing all the scrutiny, I think they just do a thorough review whether the applicant and the dependents meet the eligiblity critirea as per the laid down guidlines, if they find anything missing they are returning the application. Yes they are strictly going by the rules.

This does not mean that they cant issue the AOR to eliglible applicants, once the AOR is issued the thorough back ground check (BC) of the applicants and the dependents are done by the respective Visa office (VO), (CIC is not in a postion to do the BC for hundreds of applicants and there dependents) once the back ground check is completed the Medicals and PCC are requested by the VO.If the BC fails the PR application is rejected. In some VO where the applicants queue is long (as in New Delhi (ND) VO) it takes approximately 5 months (as per the current may , june 2010 applicants in ND VO) to complete the BC and issue a request for Medicals and PCC.

Given in this scenario withhelding the 1st AOR from CIC is not expectable , the least they can do is to announce the new timeline and process for the post june 25 applicants.

There might be one more very very rare chance where the CIC might have allready sent the eligible post june applicants PR application documents to the respective VO via electronic transfer, and the VO might has started the BC for the post june applicants or might start after issuing the AOR from the respective VO. In this case the post june 25 applicants can get the PR VISA much before the April, May and pre june 26 2010 applicants probably as early as March 2011 in some VO .

But still nothing can justify this agonising wait for some communication from CIC to post June 25 applicants.

Regards
Bindu

Reason for why they are delaying sending the AOR to post 26/6 applicants

Well according to me, the reason for delaying AORs to post 26/6 applicants is not CIC inefficiency but rather they are taking time to make sure that the application is complete and the applicant is eligible for further processing. They have said that the reason for requiring most of the visa office documents is that they want to cut off the previous 120 days time period for submission of documents to the visa office. Therefore, now they will be scrutinizing the applications more deeply than they used to do before. It will take them some time and what i assume is when they will send first AOR it will require 3 things to submit to the visa office.
1) PCC
2) Medicals
3) Any other document (depends on case to case basis).

Therefore, this is probably the reason for delaying sending the AORs. Because they cut the 120 days times and required the IELTS with initial documents because they want to reduce the time taken by applicants for submitting these documents. In addition, many applicants used to send their applications without IELTS and thought they will score full marks and will get the required 67 points but unfortunately the actual scores turned out to be much lower and they couldn't make it. Furthermore, many applicants were not able to submit documents in 120 days and visa officer had to reject their case, due to this visa office time and resources were wasted. So, i think there is a good news coming soon just be positive and optimistic as you all know these processes take time.

Note : This is just my assumption.

 

[kathe]

Good Day to you all.

Well IMO we have to take time to decode the things that are not being clearly expressed right away, otherwise we will be feeling bruised and battered if we think that nothing's ever going to go right in post 26 application process, especially vis-a`-vis AOR issue. So despite your anxiety, be pleased and enjoy the moment and things now you’ve had. Once we are at anchor on the lands of Canada if we were picked, we might have not had enough times in hands to miss the things we enthusiastically parted from.

 

[CanadaJimmy]

It's a shame we couldn't disguise a GPS tracker in the application, so we could get some idea of what was happening...

VO: "My, that birth certificate is rather thick cardboard"
;D

 

[Bindu]

Hi Team,

I have sent across the same queries to information@csic-scci.ca, I'll let you know if I get bric bats or some favourable reply worse they might ask us to pay some fees to get the answer (I'm not going to give a single penny), any how there is nothing wong at knocking on multiple doors to get an answer to our predicament.

Cheers
Bindu

hi Bindu,

I may be viewed as a pessimist towards consultants, but think they would publish any sort of news IF they possessed anything to say.

this would be considered as a really positive for their credentials and a message to public ('we are announcing something no one knows - so join us (pay our fees, hire our consultant, or choose from drop-down menu').

I think, and it is purely my opinion, that the answer should come from an official body. we want to know where we go - we ask driver not the passenger, even in front seat.

I hope I am not making it too simple, but this is how whole thing looks to me.

other views?

 

[EnvioZA]

It's a shame we couldn't disguise a GPS tracker in the application, so we could get some idea of what was happening...

VO: "My, that birth certificate is rather thick cardboard"
;D

Good one. I liked it.

 

[Cappuccino]

It's a shame we couldn't disguise a GPS tracker in the application, so we could get some idea of what was happening...

VO: "My, that birth certificate is rather thick cardboard"
;D

+1 for you Jimmy, that made me smile

Wayne.

 

[Cappuccino]

Good Day to you all.

Well IMO we have to take time to decode the things that are not being clearly expressed right away, otherwise we will be feeling bruised and battered if we think that nothing's ever going to go right in post 26 application process, especially vis-a`-vis AOR issue. So despite your anxiety, be pleased and enjoy the moment and things now you've had. Once we are at anchor on the lands of Canada if we were picked, we might have not had enough times in hands to miss the things we enthusiastically parted from.

I think most of us would accept extra delays for the post-June-26 applications if CIC would just communicate the reason for the delays. As it stands they are throwing figures of 33 weeks at people, which is 2 to 3 times the longest period that the May/June candidates had to wait for an AOR, without offering a molecule of explanation.

It's almost like they enjoy frustrating applicants in this way.
Wayne.

 

[Dr.Hasib]

Last update
Applications received toward the overall cap: 3,789 of 20,000 as of November 16, 2010

Applications received per eligible occupation:
Eligible Occupation

(by National Occupational Classification [NOC] code) Number of Complete Applications Received* ​

0631 Restaurant and Food Service Managers 168
0811 Primary Production Managers (except Agriculture) 34
1122 Professional Occupations in Business Services to Management 1,000(Cap reached)**
1233 Insurance Adjusters and Claims Examiners 53
2121 Biologists and Related Scientists 205
2151 Architects 206
3111 Specialist Physicians 164
3112 General Practitioners and Family Physicians 203
3113 Dentists 247
3131 Pharmacists 326
3142 Physiotherapists 72
3152 Registered Nurses 580
3215 Medical Radiation Technologists 15
3222 Dental Hygienists and Dental Therapists 6
3233 Licensed Practical Nurses 22
4151 Psychologists 43
4152 Social Workers 119
6241 Chefs 21
6242 Cooks 54
7215 Contractors and Supervisors, Carpentry Trades 30
7216 Contractors and Supervisors, Mechanic Trades 74
7241 Electricians (except Industrial and Power System) 36
7242 Industrial Electricians 45
7251 Plumbers 12
7265 Welders and Related Machine Operators 11
7312 Heavy-Duty Equipment Mechanics 17
7371 Crane Operators 0
7372 Drillers and Blasters – Surface Mining, Quarrying and Construction 3
8222 Supervisors, Oil and Gas Drilling and Service 23 ​

*The number of complete Federal Skilled Worker applications received as of November 16, is approximate.

**Once the cap has been reached, we can only accept applications for this occupation from people with an existing offer of arranged employment.

 

[Dr.Hasib]

Hey everyone,

Here is a link to the new immigration statistics released by the CIC.

cic.gc.ca/english/resources/statistics/data-release/2010-Q2/index.asp

It's updated to June 2010 so I'm not sure if this has been discussed earlier. What does surprise me though is that they received almost 180,000 applications between Jan-June 2010 and since July- mid Nov 2010 less than 4000!!! Why is that? Could the IELTS really have such a drastic impact?

old news brother!!!

 

[kolhapuri]

Last update
Applications received toward the overall cap: 3,789 of 20,000 as of November 16, 2010

Applications received per eligible occupation:
Eligible Occupation

(by National Occupational Classification [NOC] code) Number of Complete Applications Received* ​

[glow=red,2,300]0631 Restaurant and Food Service Managers 168
0811 Primary Production Managers (except Agriculture) 34
**Once the cap has been reached, we can only accept applications for this occupation from people with an existing offer of arranged employment.
​

Hasib, this is old news too. It is there two pages ago, whats with the colour?​

 

[kolhapuri]

Hey everyone,

Here is a link to the new immigration statistics released by the CIC.

cic.gc.ca/english/resources/statistics/data-release/2010-Q2/index.asp

It's updated to June 2010 so I'm not sure if this has been discussed earlier. What does surprise me though is that they received almost 180,000 applications between Jan-June 2010 and since July- mid Nov 2010 less than 4000!!! Why is that? Could the IELTS really have such a drastic impact?

Firstly the cap of 1000 has stopped 1122. If the cap was not there and the way they were growing, there would have been few thousand more 1122 applications. The publication fo this list also discouraged many 1122 people from applying once it was nearing 1000. As per their statistics (CIC), 20% of the people never submitted details in second stage in old system. So the cumulative effect of all this has resulted in so few applications.

As you said, IELTS is definitely one of them. Several people overestimate their english ability when calculating the points and then when the test result comes they are unable to make the minimum points. In the current scenario they do not submit at all but in good old days they were counted in total no of applications as this realisation happened only in stage 2.

 

[Cappuccino]

Just a thought, it is worth our sending an online enquiry to our own visa offices regarding some of our concerns (especially the long delay up to 33 weeks for AOR)? They may be able to give a clearer picture as to the reason for the delay.

Wayne.

 

[Coffee]

Just a thought, it is worth our sending an online enquiry to our own visa offices regarding some of our concerns (especially the long delay up to 33 weeks for AOR)? They may be able to give a clearer picture as to the reason for the delay.

Wayne.

I could not find 'thumb up' symbol to use for your advice, Wayne.

I am sending a letter to Moscow VO, let's keep going in this direction, dear members!

Salvation of sinking person is mainly a problem of that sinking person (probably a literal translation of one saying) ;D