Applications after 26/6 in any NOC CONNECT HERE TO GET THE STATUS

[canady]

I have a little theory

Since the post june process will shave the 120 days (4 months) from the pre june process so simply we can calculate the period between sending the file & requesting the medical for the pre june applicants & subtract 4 months from it to get an idea when we can expect the medical request.

Example: take FMA as an example
App. Filed : 17-June-2010
Med's Request: 03-Feb-2010
Pre june Period = 231 days = about 7.5 months
Post june Period = 7.5 - 4 = 3.5 months

I HOPE SO ;D ;D ;D

 

[Temasek]

Based on http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/faq/immigrate/skilled/changes-fsw-faq05.asp - “The cap is a limit on the number of complete applications considered for processing.”

While at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/EG77.asp under Eligibility Review, it states that “An officer will make an final determination of eligibility of your application to determine whether your application qualifies for processing under one of the two categories described in the Ministerial Instructions. If your application qualifies for processing, you will be sent a letter that notifies you of this fact and provides you with your reference number....”.

In both instances reference is made to the word “processing”; which may then imply that the 2,226 figure refers to post Eligibility Review cases.

Hopefully...

 

[Cappuccino]

Every assumption inidicates that they have 2226 applicants ready for AOR for all NOC. They are saying "Applications received toward the overall cap: 2,226 of 20,000 as of October 19, 2010" - and by calling CIO, we have known that they have completed until August 2010 eligibility review.

But, does it look right for NOC 1122? 739 applicants are already eligible for AOR? by August batch? Wherelese we beleive that post 26th June applicants volume should had been very low at least for a month (say complete July 2010) due to new requirements along with PCC. They removed PCC requirement later, but that is not before August. It should take considerable amount of time to finalize an application package with all these documents.

Now until August 2010, if 739 AOR for 1122 is right, then they must have recieved atleast 20%-30% more applications (given that, some were returned for completeness and some were returned for failure in eligibility). so, it looks like they have recieved more than 1000 + 1122 applicants in first two months (july and august), even with new rules and PCC requirements!

Something just doesnt feel right!!...

We can see by our own members on here that 1122 is by a large margin the most popular NOC code under which people have applied for FSW1.

So I am not surprised by those figures, my only surprise is that they have only counted 2226 towards the cap - which means they are either being exceptionally strict, or they have a large number of applicants still awaiting the eligibility review (I suspect the latter).

But since they seem ready to lay their cards on the table now regarding Post 26 apps, we should be looking at the first AORs in the next few weeks, maybe even as early as the end of this week.

Wayne.

 

[Cam1234]

Hello Everyone:

I had a question regarding FBI background check for those who have sent their application from the US. I sent my fingerprints and application nearly two months ago and no response yet. For those of you who have your FBI back ground checks, how long did it take? I'm getting nervous here...

Thank you,
Cam

 

[Temasek]

So I am not surprised by those figures, my only surprise is that they have only counted 2226 towards the cap - which means they are either being exceptionally strict, or they have a large number of applicants still awaiting the eligibility review (I suspect the latter).

Its likely the latter; and especially when those who had called CIO, just a week ago, were informed that they were conducting Eligibility Reviews on applications received till 30 August 2010. This may imply that the 2,226 figure does not include applications received in September and October.

 

[Cappuccino]

Its likely the latter; and especially when those who had called CIO, just a week ago, were informed that they were conducting Eligibility Reviews on applications received till 30 August 2010. This may imply that the 2,226 figure does not include applications received in September and October.

For sure there are more applications in the system for September and October. So even if those figures only represent 30% of the total they have received and passed completeness check, that's maybe 6000 total. I expected the quota to be nearly full by now.

So another possibility is that (as I've just mentioned on the June thread) the supply/demand curve is in our favour, and that they are struggling to get the professionals they need in most of the NOC codes (1122 being the notable exception it seems). This means they are more likely to be lenient to try to get the people they need.

Wayne.

 

[Coffee]

Based on http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/faq/immigrate/skilled/changes-fsw-faq05.asp - “The cap is a limit on the number of complete applications considered for processing.”

While at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/EG77.asp under Eligibility Review, it states that “An officer will make an final determination of eligibility of your application to determine whether your application qualifies for processing under one of the two categories described in the Ministerial Instructions. If your application qualifies for processing, you will be sent a letter that notifies you of this fact and provides you with your reference number....”.

In both instances reference is made to the word “processing”; which may then imply that the 2,226 figure refers to post Eligibility Review cases.

Hopefully...

+1 for analysis, Temasek! I tend to agree with you that complete for purposes of cap means 'eligible'.

 

[Temasek]

For sure there are more applications in the system for September and October. So even if those figures only represent 30% of the total they have received and passed completeness check, that's maybe 6000 total. I expected the quota to be nearly full by now.

That's true. The numbers will definitely surge upwards from September onwards. Which explains the concluding note in their webpage -"There is no guarantee that an application sent in now will fall within the cap."

 

[Cappuccino]

Yes I agree I think the total (let's see all currently received cases had their eligibility review done today) would be around the 6000 mark. Still a lot lower than I would have expected.

And yes, I am almost certain that the 2226 figure refers to applications which have successfully passed the eligibility review and are awaiting AORs.

Perhaps they have an admin team responsible for sending out AORs and that team is currently busy finishing the AORs for May and June applicants?

Wayne.

 

[Cam1234]

Folks the title of the page says:

Total complete applications received since June 26, 2010

These numbers they are giving on the page are complete applications received as of October 19, 2010. It has nothing to do with the eligibility phase IMO. Now, why they are counting complete applications towards the cap is beyond me... But I am quite certain what they are saying on that page has nothing to do with applications passing eligibility...

 

[Cappuccino]

Folks the title of the page says:

Total complete applications received since June 26, 2010

These numbers they are giving on the page are complete applications received as of October 19, 2010. It has nothing to do with the eligibility phase IMO. Now, why they are counting complete applications towards the cap is beyond me... But I am quite certain what they are saying on that page has nothing to do with applications passing eligibility...

Firstly, as you say, why would they count an application towards the cap if they do not know if the person is eligible to apply? Someone without the experience required with no skills or qualifications and a very low language score, who might be totally ineligible would then be taking up a "place" in the cap limit.

Secondly, we have no definition as to what CIC class as "complete". Perhaps the eligibility review has to be successful in order for it to be complete?

Wayne.

 

[MSM-2332]

Dear theorists, how your recent theories correspond to the theory from Maani1985 I am quoting herebelow? Just to remind you that his (first) application was received on September 1st and returned few days after.

... Before I filed my application, my three cousins filed their applications but unfortunately all these applications came back due to the same reason that they didn't provided their I-94s and U.S. visa copies (Buffalo modified its checklist after they submitted their application). When their application came back, there were two prominent things on the application.


1. Red number on the right corner which is definitely a sequential number, at that time for my first cousin it was 7661, for second it was 7673. For my third cousin it was 7774. Please note that they sent their applications almost one week apart from each other.


2. On the left corner there is an NOC code and number in green color below that. This number is in hundreds, so I am 100% sure it has something to do with 1000 cap. My two cousins applied under 1122 and one under some other, I don't remember the code. At that time 1122 was in its 200s.


3. Same thing was mentioned on my application. The right number was 13,455 and left was 746.


I hope It will clarify some of the doubts.


Thanks.

 

[Jeniya]

Good information to debate on and let the expert and theorist analyse

 

[canady]

That is what i said before , they posted COMPLETE so they mean the applications which passed the completness check.
Simply if the CIO writes Total eligible applications received since June 26, 2010 so they will mean it

Folks the title of the page says:

Total complete applications received since June 26, 2010

These numbers they are giving on the page are complete applications received as of October 19, 2010. It has nothing to do with the eligibility phase IMO. Now, why they are counting complete applications towards the cap is beyond me... But I am quite certain what they are saying on that page has nothing to do with applications passing eligibility...

 

[Jeniya]

yes i agree with you