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Application returned - help!

Tynen

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Sep 22, 2015
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Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-11-2015
AOR Received.
27-01-2016
File Transfer...
30-01-2016
Med's Done....
05-11-2015
How do they notify the applicants of their application being returned? Do they send an email first? because i may have made the same mistake.
 

Aquakitty

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Mar 21, 2011
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
App. Filed.......
04-03-2015
AOR Received.
14-04-2015 - SA Received: 20-04-2015
Med's Done....
28-01-2015 Upfront
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
25-06-2015
LANDED..........
11-07-2015
Tynen said:
How do they notify the applicants of their application being returned? Do they send an email first? because i may have made the same mistake.
It just shows up in your mailbox.
 

Tynen

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Sep 22, 2015
58
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New Zealand
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-11-2015
AOR Received.
27-01-2016
File Transfer...
30-01-2016
Med's Done....
05-11-2015
Wow...that sucks so no email notification? because me and my partner no longer lives in our previous address anymore. :'(
 

kiwi01

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Aug 8, 2015
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30/09/2015
You should have notified them of that as soon as you moved.
 

o6ocpaka

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Sep 19, 2014
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Ottawa
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-02-2015
AOR Received.
none
File Transfer...
20-04-2015
Med's Done....
07-12-2014
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
visa exempt
VISA ISSUED...
08-10-2015
LANDED..........
11-11-2015
CIC would not even tell me any updates regarding my wife's application over the phone when I called because we never filled out that use of representative form, so the reason why they have returned the application to you makes sense. In their mind important documents would be coming to a non residential address of the applicant to a person who is not authorized to see them. Why would you even specify his US address as residential if he currently lives with you and planning to extend the stay, CIC is totally ok with such situations, it only complicates things and causes suspicion when they see something like that.
 

canusa13

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Nov 13, 2015
97
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Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-12-2015
AOR Received.
18-02-2015
File Transfer...
SA: 23-02-2015
Med's Request
upfront
Med's Done....
27-11-2015
Interview........
DM 20-04-2016
Passport Req..
exempt
VISA ISSUED...
COPR 02-05-2016
o6ocpaka said:
CIC would not even tell me any updates regarding my wife's application over the phone when I called because we never filled out that use of representative form, so the reason why they have returned the application to you makes sense. In their mind important documents would be coming to a non residential address of the applicant to a person who is not authorized to see them. Why would you even specify his US address as residential if he currently lives with you and planning to extend the stay, CIC is totally ok with such situations, it only complicates things and causes suspicion when they see something like that.
Because he cannot LIVE in Canada until he receives his PR card. LIVING in Canada without PR status is illegal. He can VISIT me but his residential address remains in the US (again, because he cannot RESIDE in Canada). It's logical. But I guess CIC doesn't follow simple logic.
 

Ponga

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canusa13 said:
Because he cannot LIVE in Canada until he receives his PR card. LIVING in Canada without PR status is illegal. He can VISIT me but his residential address remains in the US (again, because he cannot RESIDE in Canada). It's logical. But I guess CIC doesn't follow simple logic.
Such is the delicate `dance' that people must do between CBSA and CIC.

It's an absolute joke.
 

canusa13

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Nov 13, 2015
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2
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-12-2015
AOR Received.
18-02-2015
File Transfer...
SA: 23-02-2015
Med's Request
upfront
Med's Done....
27-11-2015
Interview........
DM 20-04-2016
Passport Req..
exempt
VISA ISSUED...
COPR 02-05-2016
Ponga said:
Such is the delicate `dance' that people must do between CBSA and CIC.

It's an absolute joke.
I know, right?
I wonder how that actually works in practice. Let's say we want to travel abroad (since we can because it's an outland application). We take a copy of the application just in case we need to show it at the border. The officer sees Canadian address as residential address (as apparently CIC want in my case). What happens then? Pretty sure my husband would get in trouble...Anyway, a joke indeed.
 

Tynen

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Sep 22, 2015
58
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New Zealand
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-11-2015
AOR Received.
27-01-2016
File Transfer...
30-01-2016
Med's Done....
05-11-2015
kiwi01 said:
You should have notified them of that as soon as you moved.
How do I do that? We haven't gotten our AOR or SA yet.

Also, if anyone knows the period of waiting time I have to wait after submitting my app if I don't get a response from them?
 

Aquakitty

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Mar 21, 2011
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164
BC
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Ottawa
App. Filed.......
04-03-2015
AOR Received.
14-04-2015 - SA Received: 20-04-2015
Med's Done....
28-01-2015 Upfront
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
25-06-2015
LANDED..........
11-07-2015
Tynen said:
How do I do that? We haven't gotten our AOR or SA yet.

Also, if anyone knows the period of waiting time I have to wait after submitting my app if I don't get a response from them?
Have you ever had a UCI number? You can try phoning and explaining your situation, and get them to look up your name. Do you have any mail forwarding or anything?
 

TracyCa64

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Aug 28, 2014
693
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Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Oct 2, 2015
Doc's Request.
Form IMM5409 requested Feb 20, 2016
AOR Received.
Nov 25, 2015
File Transfer...
SA- Dec 10, 2015 ** DM- March 14, 2016
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
Sept 9, 2015
VISA ISSUED...
COPR Rec'd March 18, 2016
LANDED..........
April 16, 2016
canusa13 said:
I know, right?
I wonder how that actually works in practice. Let's say we want to travel abroad (since we can because it's an outland application). We take a copy of the application just in case we need to show it at the border. The officer sees Canadian address as residential address (as apparently CIC want in my case). What happens then? Pretty sure my husband would get in trouble...Anyway, a joke indeed.
Well I have a little story about that. I had been in Canada for over a year (to establish Common Law) then I left to visit my family in California for 7 weeks. When I came back to Canada and I completed my declaration card. I actually put the Canadian address as my residential address. LOL
I was confused!! Well the Border agent did not like that AT ALL. He looked at my declaration card and asked me my status in Canada. I told him my info and that I was a visitor and would be applying for PR. He crossed the address out in red and told me that "You cannot "live" in Canada as a visitor". I had to put down the California address that I am using (my family's address) He made all these big red marks on the front and back of the form and of course I was heading to secondary customs. LOL
That actually went very smooth. The agent was very nice and ended up giving me a visitor record. It was so funny because he kept telling me all the things I needed to do for my PR, in which I answered, "Did that", "Yes, I have my appt for my medical and yes it is with a panel physician".. hahahaha Then he told me, "You are very organized". I wanted to say, "I have to be, look at everything CBSA makes us do". LOL but of course I didn't. I am just glad it all worked out with secondary.

So, I know what you are saying about the delicate dance we have to do. :-X
 

TracyCa64

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Aug 28, 2014
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Oct 2, 2015
Doc's Request.
Form IMM5409 requested Feb 20, 2016
AOR Received.
Nov 25, 2015
File Transfer...
SA- Dec 10, 2015 ** DM- March 14, 2016
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
Sept 9, 2015
VISA ISSUED...
COPR Rec'd March 18, 2016
LANDED..........
April 16, 2016
Aquakitty said:
Have you ever had a UCI number? You can try phoning and explaining your situation, and get them to look up your name. Do you have any mail forwarding or anything?
If you have applied for a Visitor Extension you would have a UCI on the approval letter. It wouldn't be the one that you need to check on ECAS though. At least it might help if you called like Aquakitty is saying.
 

Aquakitty

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Mar 21, 2011
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164
BC
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Ottawa
App. Filed.......
04-03-2015
AOR Received.
14-04-2015 - SA Received: 20-04-2015
Med's Done....
28-01-2015 Upfront
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
25-06-2015
LANDED..........
11-07-2015
TracyCa64 said:
If you have applied for a Visitor Extension you would have a UCI on the approval letter. It wouldn't be the one that you need to check on ECAS though. At least it might help if you called like Aquakitty is saying.
Actually your UCI stays the same. My husband has the same one from 2006.
 

TracyCa64

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Aug 28, 2014
693
28
Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Oct 2, 2015
Doc's Request.
Form IMM5409 requested Feb 20, 2016
AOR Received.
Nov 25, 2015
File Transfer...
SA- Dec 10, 2015 ** DM- March 14, 2016
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
Sept 9, 2015
VISA ISSUED...
COPR Rec'd March 18, 2016
LANDED..........
April 16, 2016
Tynen said:
How do I do that? We haven't gotten our AOR or SA yet.

Also, if anyone knows the period of waiting time I have to wait after submitting my app if I don't get a response from them?
I found this info for contacting CIC for change of address.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/change-address.asp

Check it out!!
 

TracyCa64

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Aug 28, 2014
693
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Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Oct 2, 2015
Doc's Request.
Form IMM5409 requested Feb 20, 2016
AOR Received.
Nov 25, 2015
File Transfer...
SA- Dec 10, 2015 ** DM- March 14, 2016
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
Sept 9, 2015
VISA ISSUED...
COPR Rec'd March 18, 2016
LANDED..........
April 16, 2016
Aquakitty said:
Actually your UCI stays the same. My husband has the same one from 2006.
Yes, but the one that they sent on the AOR is different than the one that was given to me on my Visitor extension. Does that mean the one they sent on the AOR is actually the Sponsor's UCI?