Applicants waiting for more than 2 years interested in Mandamus with a firm as a group meet here !!!

[naseryas]

Wife is at 36 months since July 10, 2022. Sadly 2019 applicant waiting for oath

40 months today.

 

[usman_geo]

Hi guys,
September 2020 applicant..
Finger prints were requested in March, 2021 and BG was completed in May, 2021.
Test was completed in February, 2022.
BG status changes to in progress in March, 2022.
Nothing after that!!!!
Plz advise if I should go for mandamus!!!
Really disappointed with IRCC’s processing, my visa office is Calgary.
waiting for your kind replies!!!

 

[Dreamlad]

Hi guys,
September 2020 applicant..
Finger prints were requested in March, 2021 and BG was completed in May, 2021.
Test was completed in February, 2022.
BG status changes to in progress in March, 2022.
Nothing after that!!!!
Plz advise if I should go for mandamus!!!
Really disappointed with IRCC’s processing, my visa office is Calgary.
waiting for your kind replies!!!

Yours is 24 months. I remember you can do it after 26 months. Isn't it?

 

[usman_geo]

Yes, its 26 months. Would it be worth it to go for

Yours is 24 months. I remember you can do it after 26 months. Isn't it?

Yes, it is 26 months, however my question is would it be worth it to go for mandamus?
thank you

 

[Dreamlad]

Yes, its 26 months. Would it be worth it to go for

Yes, it is 26 months, however my question is would it be worth it to go for mandamus?
thank you

It is but they said it costs $4,000....The first letter from lawyer costs $800...

 

[trumprefugee]

Hi guys,
September 2020 applicant..
Finger prints were requested in March, 2021 and BG was completed in May, 2021.
Test was completed in February, 2022.
BG status changes to in progress in March, 2022.
Nothing after that!!!!
Plz advise if I should go for mandamus!!!
Really disappointed with IRCC’s processing, my visa office is Calgary.
waiting for your kind replies!!!

I think that you 2020 and 2019 applicants who have been waiting for over 26 months should first order GCMS notes and try to contact IRCC to make sure your cases are routine and nothing specific such as a long, stuck background check is holding things up. Then once you've verified that there is nothing specific that is wrong, a bunch of you should get together and consult some lawyers about possibly filing some kind of class action or at least joint mandamus. From what I've observed, 2022 paper applications are being processed in 4-6 months. Still too early to spot any trends for 2022 online applications. 2021 applications seem to be processed in 10-18 months, with paper applications on the lower end and online on the higher end. 2020 applications seem to be following approximately the published 27 month processing time, and poor 2019 applications closer to 3 years. In other words, IRCC appears to be working LIFO instead of FIFO, which I find to be unconscionable. Logic and fairness would require them to clear a backlog FIFO. Why not strive to process all routine applications in 18 months, instead of recent ones in 4 months and letting 2020 and 2019 applications waste away for 2+, 3+ years.

Writ of Mandamus seems to be effective for a number of routine, forgotten cases that are exceeding the official 26 month processing time. See for example @andrem in the May 2020 applicants:
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/may-2020-citizenship-application.686453/page-144

 

[amerkhaled]

Hi.it is ridiculous to spend 4000 dollars to get citizinship.
You are wasting your money.
PR card is like citizinship with the exception of voting,and realy no need to vote.
I prefer to stay on PR and not waste 4000 dollars.

 

[usman_geo]

I think that you 2020 and 2019 applicants who have been waiting for over 26 months should first order GCMS notes and try to contact IRCC to make sure your cases are routine and nothing specific such as a long, stuck background check is holding things up. Then once you've verified that there is nothing specific that is wrong, a bunch of you should get together and consult some lawyers about possibly filing some kind of class action or at least joint mandamus. From what I've observed, 2022 paper applications are being processed in 4-6 months. Still too early to spot any trends for 2022 online applications. 2021 applications seem to be processed in 10-18 months, with paper applications on the lower end and online on the higher end. 2020 applications seem to be following approximately the published 27 month processing time, and poor 2019 applications closer to 3 years. In other words, IRCC appears to be working LIFO instead of FIFO, which I find to be unconscionable. Logic and fairness would require them to clear a backlog FIFO. Why not strive to process all routine applications in 18 months, instead of recent ones in 4 months and letting 2020 and 2019 applications waste away for 2+, 3+ years.

Writ of Mandamus seems to be effective for a number of routine, forgotten cases that are exceeding the official 26 month processing time. See for example @andrem in the May 2020 applicants:
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/may-2020-citizenship-application.686453/page-144

thank you so much for sharing your thoughts in detail about the possible next steps and outcome.
I will connect with Andrem and ask him who the lawyer was.
Thank you so much, plz wish me good luck.

 

[srusht]

I have asked for gcms notes since October 2021 and no reply

 

[armoured]

Writ of Mandamus seems to be effective for a number of routine, forgotten cases that are exceeding the official 26 month processing time. See for example @andrem in the May 2020 applicants:
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/may-2020-citizenship-application.686453/page-144

I'd add that it's important to read through that post by @andrem and note that the cost was $1500 for the first stage (basically the letter threatening a writ of mandamus and the filing), the higher cost ones are those that end up having to go to court - but most do not and the applicant can decide not to proceed.

I do not know how the lawyer would approach if a lot of applicants (say more than 5) came and asked about 'group' mandamus - short answer is that I doubt it is possible BUT the lawyer might be willing to give a discount (not a huge one) if the cases are similar enough and the group members agreed to provide information in a simplified, structured format (basically it would make drafting the letters easier and hence cheaper).

 

[trumprefugee]

thank you so much for sharing your thoughts in detail about the possible next steps and outcome.
I will connect with Andrem and ask him who the lawyer was.
Thank you so much, plz wish me good luck.

Good luck, and please keep us posted if you do consult a lawyer or get any updates!

 

[trumprefugee]

I have asked for gcms notes since October 2021 and no reply

You should submit a complaint here, as they are supposed to arrive after about 30 days:
http://www.oic-ci.gc.ca/eng/lc-cj-logde-complaint-deposer-plainte.aspx
and also order them again if you don't get any response after a couple weeks

 

[trumprefugee]

I'd add that it's important to read through that post by @andrem and note that the cost was $1500 for the first stage (basically the letter threatening a writ of mandamus and the filing), the higher cost ones are those that end up having to go to court - but most do not and the applicant can decide not to proceed.

I do not know how the lawyer would approach if a lot of applicants (say more than 5) came and asked about 'group' mandamus - short answer is that I doubt it is possible BUT the lawyer might be willing to give a discount (not a huge one) if the cases are similar enough and the group members agreed to provide information in a simplified, structured format (basically it would make drafting the letters easier and hence cheaper).

Yes. The first step is having a lawyer send a demand letter, which costs around $1000-$1500. Usually that is enough to get things moving as IRCC also wants to avoid going to court. You can read the rest of Andrem's messages in that May 2020 applicants thread to see the timeline of his progress. See a few more examples of people who have gotten results from just this first step:
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/august-2019-citizenship-applicants.646213/post-10127238
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/applicants-waiting-for-more-than-2-years-interested-in-mandamus-with-a-firm-as-a-group-meet-here.743417/post-9878754
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/applicants-waiting-for-more-than-2-years-interested-in-mandamus-with-a-firm-as-a-group-meet-here.743417/post-9878383
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/17-months-applicants.617453/post-7985629
https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/october-2019-citizenship-applicants.656876/post-10077282

 

[Jakke]

I'd add that it's important to read through that post by @andrem and note that the cost was $1500 for the first stage (basically the letter threatening a writ of mandamus and the filing), the higher cost ones are those that end up having to go to court - but most do not and the applicant can decide not to proceed.

I do not know how the lawyer would approach if a lot of applicants (say more than 5) came and asked about 'group' mandamus - short answer is that I doubt it is possible BUT the lawyer might be willing to give a discount (not a huge one) if the cases are similar enough and the group members agreed to provide information in a simplified, structured format (basically it would make drafting the letters easier and hence cheaper).

I got my letter done for $800. IRCC started moving a month after they got it. Interview the following month, then oath a month after interview.

A group mandamus make no sense unless the group is in a family application. Otherwise, IRCC will simply say that each case is different and is handled individually.

 

[armoured]

A group mandamus make no sense unless the group is in a family application. Otherwise, IRCC will simply say that each case is different and is handled individually.

Yes, there is no such thing as a group mandamus. The only aspect in which it is even worth discussing is as a means of getting better pricing from a lawyer (which would be a good deal for the lawyer too).