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changsun

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Oct 28, 2012
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Hi guys, finally I got the ready for visa letter from CPP-O asking for updating family composition info and passport, and photos. Clearly it is good news. But what bothers me is that I need to submit the birth certificate for my newborn who born in Canada, which was just applied today and takes some time to receive it.
(1) If I understand the letter (as attached below) correctly, I have to submit the birth certificate first and then submit the passport? Pls advice me on this.
(2) Also they asked to submit passport and photos for all accompanying family members. My wife is the secondary applicant, but how about my baby? Does he account for another accompanying family member too?

I have called CIC and was told that they couldn't answer my questions because they were never trained for FSW class. So I am seeking for help here :)
Thank you for your input.

The original letter is like this:
Has your family composition changed since our last correspondence?

· Have you married or divorced?
· Have you given birth or adopted a child?
· Do you intend to get married or divorced prior to becoming a permanent resident?
· Do you intend to give birth or adopt a child prior to becoming a permanent resident?

If any of these conditions apply, you must inform CPP-O immediately:
OttPilot-Immigration @ cic.gc.ca

You will be asked to submit evidence such as a copy of the marriage, divorce, birth or adoption certificate or a letter advising when and where the marriage, divorce, birth or adoption is expected to take place. Any new spouse and/or children must be added to your application and be found admissible to Canada before your case is finalized. Failure to declare additional dependants such as a spouse or children before you become a permanent resident could result in the cancellation of your permanent resident visa. Once your file is closed, you would be required to submit a new application and pay new processing fees. Any new application would be assessed under the Act and Regulations in force at the time of its submission.


If none of these conditions applies to you, you may proceed below.

Right of Permanent Residence Fee (RPRF)
Passport(s)
Photographs

We require a VALID passport for you and for each accompanying family member. Passports for you and all accompanying family members must be submitted together. There must be at least one blank visa page in each passport. If there are children included in your passport there must be blank visa pages for them as well.

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Time line:
submit: Jan. 2012
ME req.: Mar. 2013
ME done: Dec. 2013
Biodata req.: Dec.6, 2013
Passport req.: Dec. 9, 2013
 

ubc2010

Star Member
Jan 23, 2013
71
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oliveoyl said:
Hi guys,

An update from my side. I received the RPRF request today. Hoping I will receive the medical request soon.
I am a Nov 2012 applicant (my record is on the excel spreadsheet). Can someone update it?

According to my GCMS notes in Aug'13, the first eligibility assessment only gave me 51 points because of the lack of the now infamous "assist" wording. I updated my RA/TA work experience letter on reading about it in this forum. The updated letter along with my degree completion letter was received and attached to the file. My latest GCMS notes in Nov'13 showed that the points were reassessed and now it is 72.

Reiterating my gratitude to all members who have shared their experiences, this forum is the best available for this stream of applicants. The invaluable experience shared by the members has indeed been incredible and a lotttt of help!
I am sorry I haven't been active since the past several months. Lot of life changes happening : finished the PhD, went home for a long break and now started a postdoc :).

I will be happy to answer any questions.

Cheers!
Thank you.
I know that the following enquiry may be silly, but I have to be very careful. In the subject field of the email, should we put the application number only or the phrase "update_on_Exxxxxxx"
Best Regards,
 

SJ2013

Star Member
Jul 14, 2013
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If your child is born in Canada then he/she is a Canadian citizen. In this case, you need to send the birth certificate only and no further information is needed. I did the same few months ago.

changsun said:
Hi guys, finally I got the ready for visa letter from CPP-O asking for updating family composition info and passport, and photos. Clearly it is good news. But what bothers me is that I need to submit the birth certificate for my newborn who born in Canada, which was just applied today and takes some time to receive it.
(1) If I understand the letter (as attached below) correctly, I have to submit the birth certificate first and then submit the passport? Pls advice me on this.
(2) Also they asked to submit passport and photos for all accompanying family members. My wife is the secondary applicant, but how about my baby? Does he account for another accompanying family member too?

I have called CIC and was told that they couldn't answer my questions because they were never trained for FSW class. So I am seeking for help here :)
Thank you for your input.

The original letter is like this:
Has your family composition changed since our last correspondence?

· Have you married or divorced?
· Have you given birth or adopted a child?
· Do you intend to get married or divorced prior to becoming a permanent resident?
· Do you intend to give birth or adopt a child prior to becoming a permanent resident?

If any of these conditions apply, you must inform CPP-O immediately:
OttPilot-Immigration @ cic.gc.ca

You will be asked to submit evidence such as a copy of the marriage, divorce, birth or adoption certificate or a letter advising when and where the marriage, divorce, birth or adoption is expected to take place. Any new spouse and/or children must be added to your application and be found admissible to Canada before your case is finalized. Failure to declare additional dependants such as a spouse or children before you become a permanent resident could result in the cancellation of your permanent resident visa. Once your file is closed, you would be required to submit a new application and pay new processing fees. Any new application would be assessed under the Act and Regulations in force at the time of its submission.


If none of these conditions applies to you, you may proceed below.

Right of Permanent Residence Fee (RPRF)
Passport(s)
Photographs

We require a VALID passport for you and for each accompanying family member. Passports for you and all accompanying family members must be submitted together. There must be at least one blank visa page in each passport. If there are children included in your passport there must be blank visa pages for them as well.

-----
Time line:
submit: Jan. 2012
ME req.: Mar. 2013
ME done: Dec. 2013
Biodata req.: Dec.6, 2013
Passport req.: Dec. 9, 2013
 

hamed_hamed_hamed

Hero Member
Jan 20, 2013
346
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Ottawa
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-03-2013 (Re-app)
Doc's Request.
07-08-2013 & 20-10-2013
Med's Request
06-05-2014
Med's Done....
20-05-2014
I think one can obtain PGWP before official graduation. I am not sure but it should be possible to get PGWP by a letter from the university stating this person has satisfied all requirements of the PhD program, and will be graduated in .... .

Otherwise it takes a few months between the defense and official graduation.
Any comments on this? Maybe Anna can comment on this.
 

N_O

Hero Member
Mar 5, 2013
875
79
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04-04-2013
AOR Received.
22-04-2013(PER)
SJ2013 said:
If your child is born in Canada then he/she is a Canadian citizen. In this case, you need to send the birth certificate only and no further information is needed. I did the same few months ago.
Well said!
 

Anna2013

Star Member
Jan 30, 2013
157
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hamed_hamed_hamed said:
I think one can obtain PGWP before official graduation. I am not sure but it should be possible to get PGWP by a letter from the university stating this person has satisfied all requirements of the PhD program, and will be graduated in .... .

Otherwise it takes a few months between the defense and official graduation.
Any comments on this? Maybe Anna can comment on this.
I did graduate couple of years ago and got the PGWP before actual degree (which is awarded on Convocation). The thing is that sometimes CIC plays with these two "meeting requirement of degree" and "obtaining the degree". I just don't want to get caught (again) with their word game.
 

hamed_hamed_hamed

Hero Member
Jan 20, 2013
346
11
Ottawa
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-03-2013 (Re-app)
Doc's Request.
07-08-2013 & 20-10-2013
Med's Request
06-05-2014
Med's Done....
20-05-2014
Anna2013 said:
I did graduate couple of years ago and got the PGWP before actual degree (which is awarded on Convocation). The thing is that sometimes CIC plays with these two "meeting requirement of degree" and "obtaining the degree". I just don't want to get caught (again) with their word game.
Since your work was under the PGWP, I think you have a strong reason for them to accept it in the CEC. This should be explained nicely in a letter to them.

By the way, is it easy to get that PGWP? I am about to apply for it in a few weeks. On the CIC website, it seems to be pretty much straightforward. Is there any difficulties for PGWP?
 

Anna2013

Star Member
Jan 30, 2013
157
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hamed_hamed_hamed said:
By the way, is it easy to get that PGWP? I am about to apply for it in a few weeks. On the CIC website, it seems to be pretty much straightforward. Is there any difficulties for PGWP?
No, it was very easy back then (online and no complications). Should be the same (if not easier) nowadays.
 

oliveoyl

Star Member
Jan 7, 2013
58
20
N_O said:
Congrats! You may receive your medical request tomorrow. Good to hear that they started processing the second capacity of PhD stream!
I did receive it today!

ubc2010 said:
Thank you.
I know that the following enquiry may be silly, but I have to be very careful. In the subject field of the email, should we put the application number only or the phrase "update_on_Exxxxxxx"
Best Regards,
My exact subject line was "Updated documents for FSW-PhD appl. of name (UCI:**** , Application: ****)

For those asking about PGWP, this is my experience less than 6 mths ago:
You can obtain it once you have fulfilled all degree requirements (i.e., defence + submission), even if your convocation is not done yet. I got a letter of degree completion requirements from school of grad studies and applied for my PGWP. It is a pretty straight forward application. In my case I even left for my home country without having to wait and receive the PGWP in hand (although it is recommended that you do wait until you receive it), had my partner courier it to me while I was away. I applied for a TRV (Temp resident Visa) through my home country's Visa Office showing the PGWP. You need to show proof of funds while applying for a new visa with PGWP if you aren't employed then.
Pretty surprising for me that the immigration officer at the airport didn't even ask for that proof of funds when I was returning with PGWP and without an employment. They were like " You are looking for a job? did you go to school here? Ok,That's fine". This is XXX times more lenient compared to what they have in US, where you cannot travel on a OPT(equivalent of a PGWP).
PS: I am employed now :).
 

hamed_hamed_hamed

Hero Member
Jan 20, 2013
346
11
Ottawa
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-03-2013 (Re-app)
Doc's Request.
07-08-2013 & 20-10-2013
Med's Request
06-05-2014
Med's Done....
20-05-2014
Anna2013 said:
No it was very easy back then (online and no complications). Should be the same (if not easier) nowadays.
Quick question: is it still necessary to provide them with banking history showing $11K in your account?
 

oliveoyl

Star Member
Jan 7, 2013
58
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hamed_hamed_hamed said:
Quick question: is it still necessary to provide them with banking history showing $11K in your account?
Not when you apply for just the PGWP from within Canada. But if you leave Canada let's say on a break and intend to come back and you need to apply for a visa (this is dictated by what country's passport you have), you have to show proof of funds (6mth bank history!) or a offer of employment indicating salary etc in order to apply for a Temp Resident's Visa.
 

PhdStream

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Aug 7, 2013
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Anna2013 said:
Thanks, that is exactly what I wanted to know. Is this included in the guide that they will count only 30 hours?
Yes .. look at their guide or operation manual under the section "Work Experience"
 

hamed_hamed_hamed

Hero Member
Jan 20, 2013
346
11
Ottawa
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-03-2013 (Re-app)
Doc's Request.
07-08-2013 & 20-10-2013
Med's Request
06-05-2014
Med's Done....
20-05-2014
oliveoyl said:
Not when you apply for just the PGWP from within Canada. But if you leave Canada let's say on a break and intend to come back and you need to apply for a visa (this is dictated by what country's passport you have), you have to show proof of funds (6mth bank history!) or a offer of employment indicating salary etc in order to apply for a Temp Resident's Visa.
Thanks Anna & oliveoyl.
 

nianjian

Star Member
Mar 16, 2013
87
2
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
mab20202 said:
Hi
CIC received my PhD stream application on October 18, 2013.
I was curious about how much longer it takes for I to fortunately receive the email?!
I noticed there is a nice spreadsheet where the FSW members share their timeline.
I wanted to ask is there any separate spreadsheet for PhD stream applicants as well? If so, please provide the link...
Cheers!
Hi mab20202, besides the spreadsheet, you can share your timeline and search similar timeline at http://heycanada.ca/,
the more people share their timeline and information, the more likely we can find similar applicants and exchange information, guys, we shuld fight together!