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northyorkca said:
You can include the e-statement just to be safe, but the Statement of Account may have similar information. At TD, I asked them to include and they gave me a letter that said the average amount held in my account over each of the past six months. BMO's letter did not include this, so I included the printed e-statements. Just to avoid any delay, maybe it is best to include it along with the Statement of Account letter in case some agent at CIC wants to see it.

Even though I included all of this, they still asked me for a new proof of funds four months after PER. At this time, I went to the bank and got new letters and printed the most recent six months statements again.
You are great ... many thanks for the info.

Actually, all my funds are in TFSA ... and most of the time my saving a/c is empty (few hundreds) as I use chequing a/c. So I am thinking to send six months history of my chequing a/c and TFSA.
 

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Anna2013 said:
Yes? You previously said that security will be the last step. Okay if security is in progress and I am not hearing anything, does it mean that security is delaying my case? What is security at all and what is the difference with criminality etc?
Security screening is independent of CIC and is carried out by the CSIS- Canadian Security Intelligence Services, this is the Canadian spy agency and is the equivalent of the CIA in the US. As per the Canadian security act, CIC cannot divulge any information regarding your security clearance in the GCMS until it is finalized one way or the other. Security refers to the safe inclusion of an applicant on Canadian soil and his/her propensity to be part of espionage terrorism, subversion and such kind of activities. A time frame cannot be fixed for the completion of this step. Although you may fax a letter to the CSIS requesting information on your case under the privacy act, if you believe your case is delayed due to the screening.

In criminality, they look for obvious criminal history- any arrests, convictions,suspended sentences etc. In security, they dig deeper based on nationality, race, previous work experience, previous places of residence etc etc.

Hope this helps
 

Anna2013

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S_Govind said:
Security screening is independent of CIC and is carried out by the CSIS- Canadian Security Intelligence Services, this is the Canadian spy agency and is the equivalent of the CIA in the US. As per the Canadian security act, CIC cannot divulge any information regarding your security clearance in the GCMS until it is finalized one way or the other. Security refers to the safe inclusion of an applicant on Canadian soil and his/her propensity to be part of espionage terrorism, subversion and such kind of activities. A time frame cannot be fixed for the completion of this step. Although you may fax a letter to the CSIS requesting information on your case under the privacy act, if you believe your case is delayed due to the screening.

In criminality, they look for obvious criminal history- any arrests, convictions,suspended sentences etc. In security, they dig deeper based on nationality, race, previous work experience, previous places of residence etc etc.

Hope this helps
Thanks for the explanations. So, those who received their medical are now seeing their security as being completed or something like that? My eligibility has not been done by FA yet, I don't think it means that they are waiting for security to go through.

Guys what your thoughts are if I email Ottawa and ask about the status of my application. I know we are not supposed to do so until 25 months is passed, but this unusual wait has become too much.
 

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Anna2013 said:
Thanks for the explanations. So, those who received their medical are now seeing their security as being completed or something like that? My eligibility has not been done by FA yet, I don't think it means that they are waiting for security to go through.

Guys what your thoughts are if I email Ottawa and ask about the status of my application. I know we are not supposed to do so until 25 months is passed, but this unusual wait has become too much.
25 months is the ultimate processing time. An applicant receives the PR card after 25 months. You can email them now and ask why your case is falling (if it is falling) behind the schedule.
 

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Anna2013 said:
So, those who received their medical are now seeing their security as being completed or something like that? My eligibility has not been done by FA yet, I don't think it means that they are waiting for security to go through.
According to the last GCMS notes, which I received after the medical request email (and even after they received the criminal record check from the RCMP).

RCMP Screening: Fingerprints required
Criminality: In progress
Security:

So, as you can see, security may still show up blank even after you receive a medical request. It is not possible to know exactly when they start the security checks. A reasonable guess would be that they won't bother working on it until the applicant passes eligibility.
 

nhab

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Hello nhab,

You're not the only applicant who found this in his notes, Parkinson and myself weren't awarded any points for the spouse's education, I hope that Ottawa's staff will reward us those points!
It may be better to update Schedule 3 to claim the points of your husband's canadian experience.
Btw, what is your due date in your notes?

Good luck!
Thanks for your suggestion, Sue dat in CAIPS note is the end of January 2013. What does it mean?? Does it mean I should hear something back on this date?
 

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Anna2013 said:
Thanks for sharing the info. My criminality says "in progress", security is blank, and RCMP screening says "no reportable trace". Eligibility pre-assessment is done late March, in which the officer decided that I don't have one year of experience.
Thanks for your answer. Was pre-assessment done by FA**** or another officer? In my case, security is "not started" and FA updated my eligibility: 62 points (did not give me my 5 points for spouse education) without any notes. Just one note indicating minimum fund requirement met.

I found the quote below in another topic in this forum. It is interesting, in his case security and criminal checks were done before medical.
SenoritaBella said:
I don't think it necessarily follows that route nowadays. From my caips notes, security and criminal checks were done first before medical request.
 

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nhab said:
Thanks for your suggestion, Sue dat in CAIPS note is the end of January 2013. What does it mean?? Does it mean I should hear something back on this date?
Most applicants hear on the due date unless it was postponed!
 

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Parkinson said:
I found the quote below in another topic in this forum. It is interesting, in his case security and criminal checks were done before medical.
Based on my memory, this was the case for TyrusX as well as asbereth I believe
 

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hamed_hamed_hamed said:
25 months is the ultimate processing time. An applicant receives the PR card after 25 months.
Not necessarily. 25 is just an average estimate. They are averaging out the timelines based on CEC/FSW as well. It is hard to comment on the PhD stream as a whole. Most of the cases fall within this limit though
 

Anna2013

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Parkinson said:
Thanks for your answer. Was pre-assessment done by FA**** or another officer? In my case, security is "not started" and FA updated my eligibility: 62 points (did not give me my 5 points for spouse education) without any notes. Just one note indicating minimum fund requirement met.

I found the quote below in another topic in this forum. It is interesting, in his case security and criminal checks were done before medical.
Thanks everybody for your inputs. No, it is done by SL**** buddys and it has been assigned to FA. My original due date I believe was June and then shifted to Oct 01 and later to Dec 01. It seems that they have again changed it because I haven't heard anything yet.

In their website they say if we are not contacted after 25 months, then we should contact them. My guess is that if I write them, I will get a generic response saying "my file is in the queue to be evaluated by an officer and that they appreciate my patience."
 

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S_Govind said:
Not necessarily. 25 is just an average estimate. They are averaging out the timelines based on CEC/FSW as well. It is hard to comment on the PhD stream as a whole. Most of the cases fall within this limit though
But still 25 months is the average ultimate time. My point was that by the 25 months in average, one should receive the PR card. One should not wait until the 25 months is passed to follow up why the medical step is not done! Those intermediate steps should take place earlier than 25 months.
 

Anna2013

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hamed_hamed_hamed said:
But still 25 months is the average ultimate time. My point was that by the 25 months in average, one should receive the PR card. One should not wait until the 25 months is passed to follow up why the medical step is not done! Those intermediate steps should take place earlier than 25 months.
I know what you are saying but I am quoting this from CIC website: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/inFORMation/times/perm/skilled-fed.asp

"If it has been longer than the time shown above since you applied and your visa office has not contacted you, you may wish to contact the visa office that is processing your application by e-mail, letter or fax."

It says "visa office has not contacted you" it does not say "you have not received your PR immigration visa".
 

ubc2010

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Sub: Open Work permit,

Dear all,

I want to apply for post graduate work permit but when I filled the questioner on MYCIC it showed that am eligible for open work permit.

I think this because I answered the following question: Have you applied for permanent resident and approved in principle? by "yes" , where I considered receiving the PER as an indication of approved in principle.
Am I correct?

Thanks