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[noc4012]

You mean sending a new reference letter to them before receiving the refusal letter?

No; I meant sending them your publications as proof you did the work under NOC 4012. You can state that at the time you applied, the work was only being submitted, but as publication takes a long time, only recently you were able to send them (if that's true). If it's not true, you can just state: as evidence to demonstrate that I did the work as per NOC 4012, here are my publications.

 

[kg.jadu]

But the first applications for both guys are now back to life after they appealed through e-mail. It seems that supplementary reference letter is a working option. I have sent a supplementary reference letter by e-mail one month ago and again by express mail today. No reply so far for my e-mail.

I suggest that you send them another email and ask if the extra letter (or any other document you might have sent) has been attached to your immigration file. There is a possibility that they did not update your application. Happens all the time.

 

[noc4012]

"The only point that is not included in my expereince letter is highlighted.
My doubt is missing one duty will affect my application? If you guys have any idea please let me know."

It is possible that CIC case officers will find fault with it saying that you are missing one duty.

With respect to duties, the CIC guidelines state that the applicant must have carried out a substantial number of duties. So if one is missing but others are accepted, and the lead statement is somehow met, CIC may accept it on the basis 80% or more of the duties are met.

 

[anjuku]

You mean sending a new reference letter to them before receiving the refusal letter?

is there any change in your ecas??

 

[The_Prince]

I suggest that you send them another email and ask if the extra letter (or any other document you might have sent) has been attached to your immigration file. There is a possibility that they did not update your application. Happens all the time.

Sure, I will keep following up on that. I will send them another e-mail in one week or so, just to allow for some time for delivering and attaching the mailed letter.

 

[hooman2012]

swear under the penalty of perjury? Is it complex to do that?

You can not do this. If you wanna do this, this means that the letter from your supervisor is not real and for that you want to make your supervisor to swear.
They can not just consider the letter from the supervisor as unreal.

 

[beh467]

Based on your GCMS, did you get any work experience at all? Did you claim any other work experience than RA/TA? Also, was it FA01772 the one who did your assessment? What did he say about other part of selection factor?

The officer has only accepted my TA.
I had work experience from back home which the officer has not given any points due to the low number of main duties.
Rejecting my RA and work experience from back home, my work experience is lower than one year. Therefore, I do not meet the minimum requirement.
The officer name in my GCMS is SL01732.

is there any change in your ecas??

No. It still shows in progress. I have not received the refusal letter yet.

No; I meant sending them your publications as proof you did the work under NOC 4012. You can state that at the time you applied, the work was only being submitted, but as publication takes a long time, only recently you were able to send them (if that's true). If it's not true, you can just state: as evidence to demonstrate that I did the work as per NOC 4012, here are my publications.

Thanks for the suggestion.
I have publications before and after the application submission.
I will send them an email once I get the refusal letter and include the publications in that email as well to show that I have been assisting the professor.

 

[aidina]

Mine too, Did you send another updated email?
Or did you complain or appeal or anything?
I appeal and after that my older one has been changed to In Process.

Did you include Assist university professor in RESEARCH ACTIVITIES in older letters?

I had sent an updated letter 2 month before the date of their decision.
The updated letter says Mr. **** works as a research assistant at **** centre assisting Dr. ***** in doing laboratory experiments, data acquisition, analysis and post-processing of results, writing reports, preparation of scientific journal papers, and international conference presentations.

I appealed right after being rejected, and in fact, we have been in contact since then. They answered me by saying that we have not received your updated letter and "In the absence of any evidence that demonstrates that this office had your documents prior to the date of our decision, our final decision on your application must stand.". Then, I provided them with any evidence I could like screenshots from my university e-mail account about 3 weeks ago.

 

[noc4012]

The officer has only accepted my TA.
I had work experience from back home which the officer has not given any points due to the low number of main duties.
Rejecting my RA and work experience from back home, my work experience is lower than one year. Therefore, I do not meet the minimum requirement.
The officer name in my GCMS is SL01732.

No. It still shows in progress. I have not received the refusal letter yet.

Thanks for the suggestion.
I have publications before and after the application submission.
I will send them an email once I get the refusal letter and include the publications in that email as well to show that I have been assisting the professor.

Check aidina's message above this one. If you send it AFTER they make their refusal decision, they will not accept anything and you have to reapply, losing your money and time.

If you send it BEFORE, they are obliged to consider these documents prior to final decisions. It is way easier to make your case now than after refusal. From what I understand, you can only appeal after refusal on basis of CIC making a mistake in fact or in law. So based on the facts they have now and how they interpret them, they may consider themselves not making a mistake in fact by refusing your application.

By withholding information from CIC that can help you (publications), you are making it harder for yourself to show, and easier for them to refute, that their refusal was a mistake in fact. Once they make a final decision, any appeal will be based on documents they received PRIOR to their decision. No subsequent documents will be accepted even if it includes winning the Nobel. You have nothing to lose by sending these documents now.

Again, the VO may have made a mistake which can be overturned by another officer. Documents you send NOW can help in a second reevaluation.

 

[Stuck In Quebec]

SORRY!!! I was wrong quoting statistics Canada. CIC has their own definition of full time work, which is 37.5 hours per week. Hence, your reference letters should amount to the total of 37.5X52=1950 hours (equivalent to one year full time work). Apologies once again.

The fulltime requirements has been reduced from 37.5 hrs/week to 30 hrs/week, hence 1560 hrs/year.

 

[beh467]

Check aidina's message above this one. If you send it AFTER they make their refusal decision, they will not accept anything and you have to reapply, losing your money and time.

If you send it BEFORE, they are obliged to consider these documents prior to final decisions. It is way easier to make your case now than after refusal. From what I understand, you can only appeal after refusal on basis of CIC making a mistake in fact or in law. So based on the facts they have now and how they interpret them, they may consider themselves not making a mistake in fact by refusing your application.

By withholding information from CIC that can help you (publications), you are making it harder for yourself to show, and easier for them to refute, that their refusal was a mistake in fact. Once they make a final decision, any appeal will be based on documents they received PRIOR to their decision. No subsequent documents will be accepted even if it includes winning the Nobel. You have nothing to lose by sending these documents now.

Again, the VO may have made a mistake which can be overturned by another officer. Documents you send NOW can help in a second reevaluation.

Thank you very much.
You are right. It seems that final decision is not made yet.
I will try to send them an updated reference letter today including the assisted word and publications

 

[hooman2012]

I had sent an updated letter 2 month before the date of their decision.
The updated letter says Mr. **** works as a research assistant at **** centre assisting Dr. ***** in doing laboratory experiments, data acquisition, analysis and post-processing of results, writing reports, preparation of scientific journal papers, and international conference presentations.

I appealed right after being rejected, and in fact, we have been in contact since then. They answered me by saying that we have not received your updated letter and "In the absence of any evidence that demonstrates that this office had your documents prior to the date of our decision, our final decision on your application must stand.". Then, I provided them with any evidence I could like screenshots from my university e-mail account about 3 weeks ago.

I see, mine is in process too, and I am sending another update for work experience soon, Because it seems that we have to write assist university professor in RESEARCH ACTIVITIES.

 

[a_nashed]

Hi all

my eCas is not loading, anyone have the same probelm?

I see, mine is in process too, and I am sending another update for work experience soon, Because it seems that we have to write assist university professor in RESEARCH ACTIVITIES.

 

[hooman2012]

That is funny,

Now I can see may of my friends who have just RA and TA and their letter was wayyyy not as complete as ours, got their document request.
I was just talking to one of them, she just incldued TA and RA and RA did not even have the word "Assist". She just got her document request.
I am angry, WTF???!!!!!!

 

[S_Govind]

That is funny,

Now I can see may of my friends who have just RA and TA and their letter was wayyyy not as complete as ours, got their document request.
I was just talking to one of them, she just incldued TA and RA and RA did not even have the word "Assist". She just got her document request.
I am angry, WTF???!!!!!!

What does her timeline look like?. It could very well be possible that her eligibility has not been started as yet by CPP-O. I have a feeling that Ottawa is mixing things up in terms of requesting documents Vs eligibility check. Without having a look at her CAIPS it is tenuous to conclude anything.