AOR JULY 2016 >>> JOIN HERE

[bassem.mf]

Quick update for you guys:

July 1st AOR, medicals passed a few days after, criminality was pending submission of FBI PCC (which I submitted 4 weeks later) and background check was NOT STARTED.

Just yesterday, my background check moved to IN PROGRESS.

We're FSW outland, and last time we checked, our visa office was CPC-Ottawa.

Cheers and good luck to all!

This is good progress. Congrats Mohamad!

 

[legalfalcon]

I received my PPR in March and became a PR in May 2016. However, I will be around to help others answer any questions they have about their application. I am active on http://bit.ly/2begfbS and some others threads, but decided to start answering questions for people with AoR in July. So feel free to ask questions and I will answer with the best of my abilities. If you have something personal, which you cannot share here, feel free to send me a PM.

Hope this helps.

Here is an analysis I did, hope it helps you in understanding how an application is processed.

As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.

The anatomy of an standard application is as follows:

1. Enter the EE pool.

2. Receive the ITA.

3. File application and supporting documents.

4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.

5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).

6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicants age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score is affected. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here.

7. At the R10 review if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.

8. Usually by this stage the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a re-assesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.

8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send you application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.

9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.

10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.

11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.

Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal application which is still in progress.

This is only for information to provide a picture about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.

This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.

But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have. Don't be a parasite.

 

[123pinoy]

plus 1 for the @legalfalcon.. thats a nice way to put it

 

[deadbird]

plus 1 for the @legalfalcon.. thats a nice way to put it

+1 legalfalcon

 

[hope1nca]

+1 Legalfalcon

 

[q1234q]

Does anyone able to check the status thru ECAS?

https://services3.cic.gc.ca/ecas/authenticate.do

 

[irlcan]

Does anyone able to check the status thru ECAS?

Hey, yeah I tried this and they cannot find my application

I submitted my Schedule A on Sept. 10th after a request on Sept 6th.

I hope nothing went wrong!

 

[legalfalcon]

Does anyone able to check the status thru ECAS?

https://services3.cic.gc.ca/ecas/authenticate.do

This was discontinued long back. Now the only source of information is the CIC website.

 

[deadbird]

My bg check went into progress for the first time today

 

[lohailirfarra]

I received my PPR in March and became a PR in May 2016. However, I will be around to help others answer any questions they have about their application. I am active on and some others threads, but decided to start answering questions for people with AoR in July. So feel free to ask questions and I will answer with the best of my abilities. If you have something personal, which you cannot share here, feel free to send me a PM.

Hope this helps.

Here is an analysis I did, hope it helps you in understanding how an application is processed.

As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.

The anatomy of an standard application is as follows:

1. Enter the EE pool.

2. Receive the ITA.

3. File application and supporting documents.

4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.

5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).

6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicants age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score is affected. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here.

7. At the R10 review if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.

8. Usually by this stage the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a re-assesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.

8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send you application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.

9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.

10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.

11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.

Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal application which is still in progress.

This is only for information to provide a picture about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.

This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.

But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have. Don't be a parasite.

Legalfalcon, can I have a question regarding on the gcms note? You mentioned the R10 completeness check. I wonder where to find out if the completeness check is complete in the GCMS note (it seems there is no R10 keyword in the note anywhere)? Is there other keyword that should be looked for, or what does the note look like when R10 is passed?

Also in the "Eligibility" stage, is it the A11.2 check? And also what does the note look like when "Eligibility" is passed? You mentioned that "the chance of rejection will go down" if this stage pass, but this stage happens at around 4-5 months in, so does that mean most of the rejection happen around 4 or 5 months?

And for inland CEC application, where is the LVO? I know there is central CPC-capital, does the LVO mean inland CEC applicant's home country capital VO?

Thanks a lot.

 

[legalfalcon]

Legalfalcon, can I have a question regarding on the gcms note? You mentioned the R10 completeness check. I wonder where to find out if the completeness check is complete in the GCMS note (it seems there is no R10 keyword in the note anywhere)? Is there other keyword that should be looked for, or what does the note look like when R10 is passed?

Also in the "Eligibility" stage, is it the A11.2 check? And also what does the note look like when "Eligibility" is passed? You mentioned that "the chance of rejection will go down" if this stage pass, but this stage happens at around 4-5 months in, so does that mean most of the rejection happen around 4 or 5 months?

And for inland CEC application, where is the LVO? I know there is central CPC-capital, does the LVO mean inland CEC applicant's home country capital VO?

Thanks a lot.

For the R10 completeness check see the last 3-4 pages of your GCMS notes. There should be a note saying *****Agent Review****R10 OK. The note for the eligibility passed looks different for different applicant. It depends on your profession and documents submitted, but should be in the last few pages.

For some applicants the eligibility is passed earlier, but in general its is in the 4-5 month period. Timeline varies and this is an average timeline that most people will see. Some applicants will see their applications get processed way faster and some way slower.

Most likely your LVO would be Ottawa. However, it is always advisable to check your GCMS notes.

Hope this helps!

 

[lohailirfarra]

For the R10 completeness check see the last 3-4 pages of your GCMS notes. There should be a note saying *****Agent Review****R10 OK. The note for the eligibility passed looks different for different applicant. It depends on your profession and documents submitted, but should be in the last few pages.

For some applicants the eligibility is passed earlier, but in general its is in the 4-5 month period. Timeline varies and this is an average timeline that most people will see. Some applicants will see their applications get processed way faster and some way slower.

Most likely your LVO would be Ottawa. However, it is always advisable to check your GCMS notes.

Hope this helps!

Legalfalcon, I have just read through my GCMS note (85 page in total) and I don't see the any "***R10 OK***" keyword. Is it possible that the R10 is still not complete yet at this point (My AOR is July 13)? And at the last three page, I only found "***Agent review*** Education on file; Consistent with level of education claimed by PA". So is this one of step in R10?

And in the first three page of GCMS note, I found something very old as the following:
--------------------------------------
PNC information:
PNC#
Valid to:
Province of Interest: NL
--------------------------------------

Does the PNC means the province of nomination, and NL meas "Newfoundland"? Because I don't have any PNP or LMIA (just CEC, no extra 600 points), is it a mistake in the "Province of Interest" field? I believed that I didn't specify any province of interest in the EE application and I definitely don't have extra 600 points. It is very odd because "PNC information", "PNC#" and "Valid to" fields are all blank, whereas "Province of Interest" is "NL". Maybe should I raise the CSE to see if that is a mistake on my part or on EE system (I am concerned that it may result in misrepresentation if the PNP information is no consistent)?

Thank you very much.

 

[123pinoy]

My bg check went into progress for the first time today

very good! did you pay RPRF upfront?

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

Checking in to understand the processing times.

 

[msf02]

Hi Legalfalcon,

My background check went from Not Started to In Progress about a week ago... I've seen Not Started to Not Needed, and the Not Needed to In Progress - but this is the first time I see it going to Not Started to In Progress... Can you please shed some light from your past experience/knowledge?

Also, I noticed from my latest notes that there is an entire note (the latest one) covered by s.16(1)(c) - any idea what this refers to?

Thank you!