Anti-climax?! McCallum hinted at much higher targets for 2017!

[rabzodemorayh]

Immigration targets to remain unchanged despite calls for significant increase
Immigration Minister John McCallum had hinted Canada would “substantially” boost the number of immigrants in earlier interviews, but the figures announced Monday tell a different story.

Ottawa will bring in the same number of immigrants in 2017 as it did in 2016, despite calls from think tanks, the corporate sector and advocacy groups to admit substantially higher numbers of newcomers.

At least two national interest groups recently recommended the government increase immigration amid Canada’s aging population and low birth rate in order to sustain the country’s economic growth and support its strained health-care and pension systems.

“This is almost anti-climactic. With all the buildup and rumours, not much is done,” said Toronto immigration lawyer Chantal Desloges, who called the government decision a “safe, conservative choice” to avoid anti-immigrant backlash among voters.

Added Debbie Douglas of the Ontario Council of Agencies Serving Immigrants: “We are all surprised. We attended several of the consultation sessions. There appeared to be a consensus even among the bureaucracy that we needed to increase the target to at least 1 per cent of the population.”

The new plan represents a higher target for economic immigrants from 160,600 in 2016 to 172,500 in 2017, and for family reunification from 80,000 to 84,000 — at the expense of the admission of refugees from 55,800 to 40,000.

comments?!

https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2016/10/31/immigration-targets-to-remain-unchanged-despite-calls-for-significant-increase.html

 

[mead]

its all politics right now there is lot of bad publicity for immigration so they r pleasing the public is my guess. But either way liberals have disappointed so far

 

[Alexios07]

If you have followed the news, you can see McCallum and Trudeau Jr. had faced many challenges in the Parliament and their own party when they announced they wanted to boost the immigration quota and brought more refugees in.

One of my post in September:

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/annoucement-for-new-changes-might-be-delayed-more-refugees-are-coming-t452647.0.html

Plus there were no climax at all. Recommendations are just recommendations, they are not final decisions, and more importantly, they came from a group of businessmen and bankers, who always love to have more cheap workers.

 

[betty44]

That s why quebec is an independent province. Away from this federal gov games. Viva quebec!!!! Quebec s target is 50 000 for 2017. Huge number for only one province. They are clarly pro immigrams. And they are getting ready to open their EE system. it is good to have a province that does not rely on the government or any political party

 

[chillito]

That s why quebec is an independent province. Away from this federal gov games. Viva quebec!!!! Quebec s target is 50 000 for 2017. Huge number for only one province. They are clarly pro immigrams. And they are getting ready to open their EE system. it is good to have a province that does not rely on the government or any political party

except for one thing - a big number out of those who immigrate to live and work in Quebec then leave to provinces that are not in a constant deficit. so QC targets might appear high, but it is likely because many won't stay once here.
Besides, "a province that does not rely on the government or any political party"...really??? not at all??? even though it is heavily subsidized by the feds....?? even though provincial political parties could be called as the most radical in the entire country...??

 

[betty44]

except for one thing - a big number out of those who immigrate to live and work in Quebec then leave to provinces that are not in a constant deficit. so QC targets might appear high, but it is likely because many won't stay once here.
Besides, "a province that does not rely on the government or any political party"...really??? not at all??? even though it is heavily subsidized by the feds....?? even though provincial political parties could be called as the most radical in the entire country...??

well buddy quebec is one of tge most affordable province to live, if you are already a PR I dont know what you talking about universities have the cheapest tuition for quebecois and better yet they choose their own immigrants. Food, housing,ect. Is more affordable in quebe c than rest of provinces. People who end up moving to a different province do it cuz they dont master french they just use quebec ad a bridge like many people do with other provinces. Thosr are the facts. Live is cheaper quebec and better in quebec if you are willing to give it a chance. Sorry buddy but that just the way it is, quebec offers all this because they have their own government and their own immigration system they dont need permission from the fed gov to tell them how much people to bring. That s my point

 

[betty44]

You looking affordability in housing, food, cultural activities, then quebec is theprovince. They also have the best university of canada tuition is no more than 3000 dolars at year for a master degree if you are a quebec PR or french citizen

 

[mead]

You looking affordability in housing, food, cultural activities, then quebec is theprovince. They also have the best university of canada tuition is no more than 3000 dolars at year for a master degree if you are a quebec PR or french citizen

I dont know which university did u get 3k for master per year. But have u lived in quebec? I did my masters from quebec. well Montreal is good but if u dont know spoken french rest of quebec wil treat u like an outside u wont get a job or its difficult to get a job. I moved out of quebec even though I could have got PR easy there. But again its ur choice

 

[Ioftenyell]

Immigration targets to remain unchanged despite calls for significant increase
Immigration Minister John McCallum had hinted Canada would “substantially” boost the number of immigrants in earlier interviews, but the figures announced Monday tell a different story.

Ottawa will bring in the same number of immigrants in 2017 as it did in 2016, despite calls from think tanks, the corporate sector and advocacy groups to admit substantially higher numbers of newcomers.

At least two national interest groups recently recommended the government increase immigration amid Canada’s aging population and low birth rate in order to sustain the country’s economic growth and support its strained health-care and pension systems.

“This is almost anti-climactic. With all the buildup and rumours, not much is done,” said Toronto immigration lawyer Chantal Desloges, who called the government decision a “safe, conservative choice” to avoid anti-immigrant backlash among voters.

Added Debbie Douglas of the Ontario Council of Agencies Serving Immigrants: “We are all surprised. We attended several of the consultation sessions. There appeared to be a consensus even among the bureaucracy that we needed to increase the target to at least 1 per cent of the population.”

The new plan represents a higher target for economic immigrants from 160,600 in 2016 to 172,500 in 2017, and for family reunification from 80,000 to 84,000 — at the expense of the admission of refugees from 55,800 to 40,000.

comments?!

https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2016/10/31/immigration-targets-to-remain-unchanged-despite-calls-for-significant-increase.html

People believes what they want to believe bud.

 

[Alexios07]

People who end up moving to a different province do it cuz they dont master french they just use quebec ad a bridge like many people do with other provinces.

And this is the problem, the so-called cash-for-visa program. It creates a loop hole for foreign rich investors to use Quebec as a backdoor to gain access to Canada. Quebec basically just selling Canadian PR while they fully know that these corrupt investors have absolutely no intend to reside in Quebec, but why does Quebec care right? because most of these *censored word* investors will go to BC or Ontario.

BC Premier has voiced her concern about this stupid program, but well, I guess, since it's Quebec, so no one can touch them. I know you are pretty desperate so you are vouching for any province that will accept you, but be smarter than that.

http://globalnews.ca/video/2855002/quebec-immigrant-investor-program-impacts-b-c-real-estate
http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/b-c-company-benefits-from-quebec-cash-for-visa-program

 

[chillito]

And this is the problem, the so-called cash-for-visa program. It creates a loop hole for foreign rich investors to use Quebec as a backdoor to gain access to Canada. Quebec basically just selling Canadian PR while they fully know that these corrupt investors have absolutely no intend to reside in Quebec, but why does Quebec care right? because most of these *censored word* investors will go to BC or Ontario.

BC Premier has voiced her concern about this stupid program, but well, I guess, since it's Quebec, so no one can touch them. I know you are pretty desperate so you are vouching for any province that will accept you, but be smarter than that.

http://globalnews.ca/video/2855002/quebec-immigrant-investor-program-impacts-b-c-real-estate
http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/b-c-company-benefits-from-quebec-cash-for-visa-program

Second that! Sometimes it seems they are just boosting their budget in the expense of the rest of the country. the entire "we are unique and independent" thing is so childish.

And I did live in Quebec, and affordability of it is not exactly that black and white (of course if we compare living somewhere in QC vs living downtown Toronto it would appear that Toronto is crazy expensive). There are things that are cheaper (like rent, usually if you rent in a *censored word* small town and car insurance os lower, and water is free; if you are planning to have a bunch of kids it is probably good for it too), there are also things that are more expensive, even when you do groceries you can see some real difference and realize that QC is not that cheap. Other things to think about is higher income tax, language police, overall lower level of educated population compared to the rest of the country, higher level of corruption, etc.
And when it comes to education, especially at the grad level, consider the fact that most of the universities in Ontario and elsewhere do provide funding and don't go on strikes for months.

 

[mead]

Second that! Sometimes it seems they are just boosting their budget in the expense of the rest of the country. the entire "we are unique and independent" thing is so childish.

And I did live in Quebec, and affordability of it is not exactly that black and white (of course if we compare living somewhere in QC vs living downtown Toronto it would appear that Toronto is crazy expensive). There are things that are cheaper (like rent, usually if you rent in a *censored word* small town and car insurance os lower, and water is free; if you are planning to have a bunch of kids it is probably good for it too), there are also things that are more expensive, even when you do groceries you can see some real difference and realize that QC is not that cheap. Other things to think about is higher income tax, language police, overall lower level of educated population compared to the rest of the country, higher level of corruption, etc.
And when it comes to education, especially at the grad level, consider the fact that most of the universities in Ontario and elsewhere do provide funding and don't go on strikes for months.

pay scale is bad too

 

[betty44]

I dont know which university did u get 3k for master per year. But have u lived in quebec? I did my masters from quebec. well Montreal is good but if u dont know spoken french rest of quebec wil treat u like an outside u wont get a job or its difficult to get a job. I moved out of quebec even though I could have got PR easy there. But again its ur choice

mcgill university offer affordable tiition for quebec pr, quebec citizen and french people go to their website and see it youtself. As an international student of couse you will pay more. Everything is difficult there if. You DONT SPEAK FRENCH and are noy willing to learn it. Period you could get a job as soon as you would get a job in toronto if you have what they need

 

[betty44]

And this is the problem, the so-called cash-for-visa program. It creates a loop hole for foreign rich investors to use Quebec as a backdoor to gain access to Canada. Quebec basically just selling Canadian PR while they fully know that these corrupt investors have absolutely no intend to reside in Quebec, but why does Quebec care right? because most of these *censored word* investors will go to BC or Ontario.
BC Premier has voiced her concern about this stupid program, but well, I guess, since it's Quebec, so no one can touch them. I know you are pretty desperate so you are vouching for any province that will accept you, but be smarter than that.

http://globalnews.ca/video/2855002/quebec-immigrant-investor-program-impacts-b-c-real-estate
http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/b-c-company-benefits-from-quebec-cash-for-visa-program

I understand but it is not quebec s fault that people want to misrepresent themselve by moving to another province , there is a law in the constitution that allows permanent residence if canada to establish in any province once they become residents. Quebec is just giving opportunities to live in the province most francophones stay in quebec but people think that by knowing english you can live and find a job IN A FRANCOPHONE PROVINCE.
they have to revise the law when it comes to pnp and quebec simmgrants to prevent this, cuz quebec is not the only province with this issue all of the province have the same problem when it comes to pnp.

 

[betty44]

It is not quebec s fault that people misrepresent themselve to come to canada with those intentions. The constitution say they can move. That law allows them to misrepresent. They do it in every province. You have to go to the root of the problem. you can have a good live in quebec but you can feel isolated if you don tunderstand the language you will be left out