Anti-climax?! McCallum hinted at much higher targets for 2017!

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mcgill university offer affordable tiition for quebec pr, quebec citizen and french people go to their website and see it youtself. As an international student of couse you will pay more. Everything is difficult there if. You DONT SPEAK FRENCH and are noy willing to learn it. Period you could get a job as soon as you would get a job in toronto if you have what they need

thats true u must know french and yes internation students pay more so same is with other provinces look at university of toronto fees same deal no difference so nothing special with Quebec in terms of fees. I am guessing u r a french speaker if not well good luck. Yes if u know french u will get a job but they r snobs they dont like France french either u will know once u get there. people who speak french like in France r also looked down upon but they have advantage over only english speaking. So if ur a frensh speaker quebec is good for u

 

[betty44]

pay scale is bad too

people who talk like this about quebec are not willing to adapt to the quebecois society, they are who they are because they fight for it, and i am not saying strikes are right but it is beacuse of that that they are able to offer housing affordability in the metropolitan areas and low tuituion for quebec permanet residents compared to ontario in which universities tuitions free are the most expensive of whole canada.

 

[mead]

people who talk like this about quebec are not willing to adapt to the quebecois society, they are who they are because they fight for it, and i am not saying strikes are right but it is beacuse of that that they are able to offer housing affordability in the metropolitan areas and low tuituion for quebec permanet residents compared to ontario in which universities tuitions free are the most expensive of whole canada.

no tuition fees r not highest in all of Canada and quebec is not the cheapest. There are so many provinces with cheap tuition and living than Quebec some cities in ontario r cheaper as compared to quebec. U should look at Memorial university, uni of regina hell University of Toronto is free for masters if u manage to get in. Ur research is poor I am guessing ur not in Canada and some one is giving this info.
They dont offer anything pay scale is low a new engineer gets 50-60k in other provinces and 35-40k in quebec thats a lot of difference. Jobs r cornered by people who speak french and not necessarily by talent so u see lot of errors.
Yes u should go to Quebec enjoy and adapt.

 

[betty44]

thats true u must know french and yes internation students pay more so same is with other provinces look at university of toronto fees same deal no difference so nothing special with Quebec in terms of fees. I am guessing u r a french speaker if not well good luck. Yes if u know french u will get a job but they r snobs they dont like France french either u will know once u get there. people who speak french like in France r also looked down upon but they have advantage over only english speaking. So if ur a frensh speaker quebec is good for u

i was always talking about permanent residents and citizen tuition fees , it is proven that in quebec is way lower than in ontario,albert or bc.
it would depend on your self stteem and your personality if you have personality issue about you accent there nothing you can do about that. many people from french speaking country have settle in quebec and they are doing great. it is like talking to a native english speaker , he might not you english accent that that common all around the world, and in all of the counties who have immigration system. you get over yourself and move forward

 

[betty44]

no tuition fees r not highest in all of Canada and quebec is not the cheapest. There are so many provinces with cheap tuition and living than Quebec some cities in ontario r cheaper as compared to quebec. U should look at Memorial university, uni of regina hell University of Toronto is free for masters if u manage to get in. Ur research is poor I am guessing ur not in Canada and some one is giving this info.
They dont offer anything pay scale is low a new engineer gets 50-60k in other provinces and 35-40k in quebec thats a lot of difference. Jobs r cornered by people who speak french and not necessarily by talent so u see lot of errors.
Yes u should go to Quebec enjoy and adapt.

i said compared to ontario.

 

[mead]

i was always talking about permanent residents and citizen tuition fees , it is proven that in quebec is way lower than in ontario,albert or bc.
it would depend on your self stteem and your personality if you have personality issue about you accent there nothing you can do about that. many people from french speaking country have settle in quebec and they are doing great. it is like talking to a native english speaker , he might not you english accent that that common all around the world, and in all of the counties who have immigration system. you get over yourself and move forward

no Quebec is not cheapest and its not proven there r pros and cons. French speakers I have seen from other countries mostly African and no offense to anyone r mostly driving cab but this is not a fact there r lot in better positions too. no good thing aout english speakers in rest of canada is they r very good by nature but french people in quebec r a little rude compared to others. Example all the boards in Ottawa are in both language french and english as ottawa in on the bordar but the sister city of ottawa Gatineau(Quebec) all boards r in french no english what does that tell u? So if ur not in Canada u wont know the difference. But Again if ur a french speaker then yes u have a better PR opportunity. I for one will never move to quebec even if i get a job there

 

[betty44]

no tuition fees r not highest in all of Canada and quebec is not the cheapest. There are so many provinces with cheap tuition and living than Quebec some cities in ontario r cheaper as compared to quebec. U should look at Memorial university, uni of regina hell University of Toronto is free for masters if u manage to get in. Ur research is poor I am guessing ur not in Canada and some one is giving this info.
They dont offer anything pay scale is low a new engineer gets 50-60k in other provinces and 35-40k in quebec thats a lot of difference. Jobs r cornered by people who speak french and not necessarily by talent so u see lot of errors.
Yes u should go to Quebec enjoy and adapt.

live is cheaper in quebec. they have miminum wage based on quality of life. in a more expensive province you can expect to have a higher wage. and yes i am from canada and no im not a french speaker, that you dont like quebec or the fact that they can bring whatever the amount of immigrants they please at year is something else but it is ok i respect that. your point view.

 

[mead]

live is cheaper in quebec. they have miminum wage based on quality of life. in a more expensive province you can expect to have a higher wage. and yes i am from canada and no im not a french speaker, that you dont like quebec or the fact that they can bring whatever the amount of immigrants they please at year is something else but it is ok i respect that. your point view.

just for curiosity ur in Canada right now?

 

[betty44]

no Quebec is not cheapest and its not proven there r pros and cons. French speakers I have seen from other countries mostly African and no offense to anyone r mostly driving cab but this is not a fact there r lot in better positions too. no good thing aout english speakers in rest of canada is they r very good by nature but french people in quebec r a little rude compared to others. Example all the boards in Ottawa are in both language french and english as ottawa in on the bordar but the sister city of ottawa Gatineau(Quebec) all boards r in french no english what does that tell u? So if ur not in Canada u wont know the difference. But Again if ur a french speaker then yes u have a better PR opportunity. I for one will never move to quebec even if i get a job there

again personal feelings are not facts. thats what you felt. but not like thousands of people feel. respects

 

[betty44]

just for curiosity ur in Canada right now?

around

 

[mead]

again personal feelings are not facts. thats what you felt. but not like thousands of people feel. respects

I dont know what to tell u lol...just good luck for ur life in quebec

 

[betty44]

I dont know what to tell u lol...just good luck for ur life in quebec

thanks my friend.

 

[chillito]

live is cheaper in quebec. they have miminum wage based on quality of life. in a more expensive province you can expect to have a higher wage. and yes i am from canada and no im not a french speaker, that you dont like quebec or the fact that they can bring whatever the amount of immigrants they please at year is something else but it is ok i respect that. your point view.

It all started with statements that QC somehow is only province that likes immigrants, has government, is independent and livable. That is why the discussion has been going hot.
Here some facts:
Minimum wage per hour
QC - 10.75, there are only 4 provinces with lower min wages (NB, SK, NFL, NS) and it is only up to 25 cents lower. other provinces and territories have something from 10.85 to 13.00.
Unemployment rate in QC is higher than in the other "major" provinces.
Rent on average is cheaper in QC, not because their system is so good, but because the income is on average lower and the demand is too. The quality of those houses and apartments is also often a problem. If you rent a house without decent insulation, which is very very common in QC, you might end up paying up to $300 monthly bill for your hydro if the house has an electric heating system.
As for food, milk for instance costs around 6.20 in QC, whereas in ON the same thing is 3.99.
The problem with language everybody brings up is not because the lack of desire to learn French, it is because Canada is bilingual, some places have a dominant language, but only in QC you have language police taking down signs written even in two languages where the French version does not go first and isn't 70% larger in font. This is not promotion and protection of local culture, it is very draconian and reflects the overall strong nationalistic mentality.

 

[betty44]

It all started with statements that QC somehow is only province that likes immigrants, has government, is independent and livable. That is why the discussion has been going hot.
Here some facts:
Minimum wage per hour
QC - 10.75, there are only 4 provinces with lower min wages (NB, SK, NFL, NS) and it is only up to 25 cents lower. other provinces and territories have something from 10.85 to 13.00.
Unemployment rate in QC is higher than in the other "major" provinces.
Rent on average is cheaper in QC, not because their system is so good, but because the income is on average lower and the demand is too. The quality of those houses and apartments is also often a problem. If you rent a house without decent insulation, which is very very common in QC, you might end up paying up to $300 monthly bill for your hydro if the house has an electric heating system.
As for food, milk for instance costs around 6.20 in QC, whereas in ON the same thing is 3.99.
The problem with language everybody brings up is not because the lack of desire to learn French, it is because Canada is bilingual, some places have a dominant language, but only in QC you have language police taking down signs written even in two languages where the French version does not go first and isn't 70% larger in font. This is not promotion and protection of local culture, it is very draconian and reflects the overall strong nationalistic mentality.

it is because Canada is bilingual??? no buddy, NB is bilingual officially. quebec only has one official languge and that is french.
that's where people are mistaken you are allow to speak english like in any other part of the world if you are a tourist. but professionally,schools,hopitals,stores the official language is french. and yes anglophones are dominants that's way in parts as montreal you hear people speaking english beacuse of the cultural mix and tourist attractions bussiness owners have staff who speak english like there are poeple who speak french in BC or AB but that does not change the law that there is one official language in quebec. there are people who dont speak english in quebec and people who dont speak french in the aglophone provices. again someone who doesnt like the province of quebec will make up all the excuses necesary to move to a different province and say something is worng with it. but housing, food and tuitions are affordable for quebec residents. we tend to think that without quebecois experience we can make the same amount of money as someone who already has a quebec degree and experience. il faut se preparer! that's life.

Rent on average is cheaper in QC, not because their system is so good, but because the income is on average lower and the demand is too.

i never said the system is good, i said the same thing, it is related the minimun wage of each province.

 

[chillito]

it is because Canada is bilingual??? no buddy, NB is bilingual officially. quebec only has one official languge and that is french.
that's where people are mistaken you are allow to speak english like in any other part of the world if you are a tourist. but professionally,schools,hopitals,stores the official language is french. and yes anglophones are dominants that's way in parts as montreal you hear people speaking english beacuse of the cultural mix and tourist attractions bussiness owners have staff who speak english like there are poeple who speak french in BC or AB but that does not change the law that there is one official language in quebec. there are people who dont speak english in quebec and people who dont speak french in the aglophone provices. again someone who doesnt like the province of quebec will make up all the excuses necesary to move to a different province and say something is worng with it. but housing, food and tuitions are affordable for quebec residents. we tend to think that without quebecois experience we can make the same amount of money as someone who already has a quebec degree and experience. il faut se preparer! that's life.

Rent on average is cheaper in QC, not because their system is so good, but because the income is on average lower and the demand is too.

i never said the system is good, i said the same thing, it is related the minimun wage of each province.

i guess this part of the constitution of Canada confused me s.16(1) - "English and French are the official languages of Canada"