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Analysis of Express Entry Statistics

robb83

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The only consideration is that it will be out of date pretty quickly, however it would provide a very strong insight into how many people there are in the pool above me.

Then it could be a case of wait or IELTS, I've already gone back to see if they can improve the turn around time.
 

robb83

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kryt0n said:
Wait, you're willing to spend $100 on this but not on new IELTS tests or remarks?? Come on, priorities!
I'm willing to spend $100 on this to see whether or not the points will likely drop enough to include me in the draw primarily.

Secondly, I think that there would be a lot of people on this forum who would take some hope from that if they are in a similar points situation to myself.

If there was no chance of it dropping that low, then they might have to re-evaluate how to get more points or at least get into the mind set it will take a while.

I have every intention of re-taking the IELTS once I have had time to study and work has settled.

You either seem to be reading what you want or just can't read.
 

robb83

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kryt0n said:
Ok, spend $100 on data that will be out of date next week.

Even if you find out there are only 8000 people above you, you have no idea if CIC will ever drop below the last score of 434. You won't know if there is even going to be another draw in 2017. That's the information you need.

Go for it.
It would actually be out of date immediately.

I would at least know if there are 8,000 people above me or 18,000.

True I have no idea what the CIC will do, I can only speculate and i'd rather know in confidence that I have a chance whilst waiting for the time to re-do IELTS.

If there isn't going to be another draw in 2017 then they won't ever hit their target.

Have you got ITA?
 

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robb83 said:
It would actually be out of date immediately.

I would at least know if there are 8,000 people above me or 18,000.

True I have no idea what the CIC will do, I can only speculate and i'd rather know in confidence that I have a chance whilst waiting for the time to re-do IELTS.

If there isn't going to be another draw in 2017 then they won't ever hit their target.

Have you got ITA?
Yes, I have. I retook my IELTS.
 

xpressentry

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For me retaking IELTS and improving my score was a priority. It was not fun taking the IELTS 5 times and spending £160 each time.

I still dont understand what you will do with that data.
 

Alexios07

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xpressentry said:
For me retaking IELTS and improving my score was a priority. It was not fun taking the IELTS 5 times and spending £160 each time.

I still dont understand what you will do with that data.
Didn't you read? he's very busy and doesn't have time to study. That data will give hope to him and other people in this troubled time.
 

swapsm

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robb83 said:
It would actually be out of date immediately.

I would at least know if there are 8,000 people above me or 18,000.

True I have no idea what the CIC will do, I can only speculate and i'd rather know in confidence that I have a chance whilst waiting for the time to re-do IELTS.

If there isn't going to be another draw in 2017 then they won't ever hit their target.

Have you got ITA?

Hi Rob,

I like your thinking.
With that information you would be doing an educated guess and thennnnnn based on that consider the english tests.

That's smart!
 

xpressentry

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swapsm said:
Hi Rob,

I like your thinking.
With that information you would be doing an educated guess and thennnnnn based on that consider the english tests.

That's smart!
And how is that smart? CIC has current data not future data.
 

robb83

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xpressentry said:
And how is that smart? CIC has current data not future data.
It's an informed decision.

If there are say 10,000 people between 420 and 430 you can make the case for seeing where the cut of is in 3 draws time, depending that ITA's still continue at the rate of 3000 a draw (or 3500 ideally)
 

xpressentry

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robb83 said:
It's an informed decision.

If there are say 10,000 people between 420 and 430 you can make the case for seeing where the cut of is in 3 draws time, depending that ITA's still continue at the rate of 3000 a draw (or 3500 ideally)
You will get your data after a month. So you will be out of $100 + HST and by the time you get your info, the whole of April will be over. We are almost at the end of March now. Your data will be outdated.
 

robb83

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xpressentry said:
You will get your data after a month. So you will be out of $100 + HST and by the time you get your info, the whole of April will be over. We are almost at the end of March now. Your data will be outdated.
Data will still be live snapshot as of that point, i've asked them to clarify that.

I don't want a month out of date data.
 

picklee

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robb83 said:
I now have an official response from CIC that they can provide me the data for a cost of $100 + tax for the point band I choose.

Picklee, what do you think shall I go ahead and get this?

The snapshot will be out of date fairly quickly but at least it would show if there is a hope for people below 420
Based on the last draw, it seems you may have your answer. 3749 ITAs at 441. I'm not sure that the info would be as out of date as some of the other people here. There may be some slight upward mobility from people improving their language scores, but IRCC has this to say in the 2015 report:

Candidates with a CRS score below 450 have never been issued an invitation to apply and the majority of them have been in the pool for more than a few months.
It's only a snapshot, but it would elucidate the density of candidates in a very critical CRS range at a time when the CRS threshold may approach said range in future draws. I say go for it.
 

xpressentry

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Did you manage to get data from CIC?
 

picklee

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Anyone else notice the added statistics on the draw page?

Snapshot of CRS scores in the EE pool as of March 29:

Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) score distribution of candidates in the Express Entry pool as of March 29, 2017
CRS Score Range Number of Candidates
601-1200 124
451-600 422
401-450 11,726
441-450 137
431-440 1,927
421-430 2,976
411-420 3,119
401-410 3,567
351-400 21,036
391-400 3,274
381-390 4,008
371-380 4,340
361-370 4,623
351-360 4,791
301-350 15,584
0-300 2,779
Total 51,671
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/rounds.asp
 

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robb83 said:
I would at least know if there are 8,000 people above me or 18,000.
Based on the numbers released as of March 29, looks like there are about 6,000 profiles at or above 418.