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Guguz

Star Member
Aug 14, 2013
89
0
India
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29 June 2012
Interview........
Feb 11, 2013 (Refused)
VISA ISSUED...
God Knows
Lenchik said:
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Hi, reason as usual marriage is not genuine. But this is not the real reason. I was living with my husband since we got married and prior to that another 6 months. We had wedding with honeymoon we dont have age difference only couple of years and finally we will have a baby in november!
So the real reasons are:
1 he is muslim im christian, even though we both from ex soviet union and speak same language.
2 he holds refugee passport and lives in Vienna
3 he is not poor he makes money through car business so they right away think there is criminality involved.
Thats all what i can say, and we r going through toronto office

I must say this system sucks.... The reasons that u shared doesnt prove that wedding is fake... Canadian High commission is giving hard time to genuine couples. and the fake get visa without any hassle. I fail to understand, what kind of experience and understanding these VO officers hold. Pitty on the system and we are suffering just cuz of poor system and inexperiences VOs.....
 

Peachnibbler

Star Member
Jun 14, 2013
63
10
Category........
Visa Office......
Accra, Ghana
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-01-2013
Interview........
28-08-2013
VISA ISSUED...
Declined
Hello Everyone, I am new here. I am Canadian and my husband is Nigerian. He just had his interview on August 28, 2013 and we received an email on the morning of the 30th at 1:00am advising us that he had been refused. I have filed an appeal with the Vancouver office. The reason given was that they do not believe our marriage to be genuine. My husband and I share the same religion; however, I am not African and he is. He is also much younger than me. We met on the internet. We got married on January 2nd, 2013. I have helped him out financially.

During the interview he was basically accused of not telling the truth - for example, that because the officer did not think he had a strong Nigerian accent, that he must have travelled abroad and thus must have a passport that he was not revealing to her. I think this is ludicrous because if he had travelled abroad, he would not have been rejected THREE TIMES for a Canadian visitor's visa (which we tried for before getting married). Also she accused him of being poor (despite the fact that he owns his own home) and looking for a rich white woman on the internet. She herself is caucasian. She also said that I was not integrated into his life....kind of hard since he cannot visit me, and I cannot keep travelling to Nigeria to get "integrated". Despite this we talk twice daily, and I am well connected with his family and friends in Nigeria. So really, he is not integrated in my life! LOL! We also had a small reception due to lack of funds and other issues and she was critical of this.

I have some questions as we start this process and so if anyone has any information, I would be really happy to hear it:

1. Is it worthwhile to hire an immigration lawyer? If so, how much does it cost? What does the lawyer do for you? Will Immigration Canada utilize lawyers against us?
2. What is the appeal process? I see lots of abbreviations but I don't know what they all stand for. It would be great to know how things typically unfold.
3. Is the hearing held in Canada or at Canadian Embassy in his country or in Accra, Ghana where he had his interview?
4. How long can we expect to wait for a hearing?
5. Any suggestions for increasing the proof of the genuineness of our relationship?
6. Is it worthwhile to "attack" the credibility of the immigration officer, to point out flaws in her reasoning, show up her biases and discredit her assumptions as unsubstantiated? I personally feel that she did not have any strong or factual evidence only circumstantial evidence on which she based her decision. (Frankly I'd like to rip her a new one! But that would be very UNCHRISTIAN of me!)
7. How long can an appeal take?
8. Any other information, especially from anyone who has experience with Nigeria/West Africa.

Thank you so much.

Peach Nibbler (crossing over from the Accra Ghana thread)
 

Lenchik

Star Member
Dec 6, 2012
92
2
Category........
Visa Office......
vienna
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-11-2012
AOR Received.
19-12-2012
File Transfer...
27-11-2012
Med's Done....
15-12-2012
Interview........
19-02-2013 refused. blue book - July 2013. ADR - May,2014
Guguz said:
I must say this system sucks.... The reasons that u shared doesnt prove that wedding is fake... Canadian High commission is giving hard time to genuine couples. and the fake get visa without any hassle. I fail to understand, what kind of experience and understanding these VO officers hold. Pitty on the system and we are suffering just cuz of poor system and inexperiences VOs.....
Completely agree. Unfortunately some people have rights and power to decide and judge other peoples' lives, marriages , relationship and make sometimes unreasonable assumptions whos marriage genuine and whos not. Im ok with any decision but im not ok with waiting time. I would like to know their decision asap so i wont waste my time in waiting. I want to spend my all time with my husband and our newly formed family!!! For us number 1 priority now is our baby. Too bad fathet wont be able to see child when baby will be born: ((
 

Mrs Selim

Hero Member
Mar 6, 2013
255
15
Vancouver BC
Category........
Visa Office......
Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12-3-2013
Interview........
May 28 2013 denied
Passport Req..
May 5 2015
VISA ISSUED...
May 12 2015
LANDED..........
May 31 2015
I need the link to appeal my case in Vancouver does anyone have it ??thank you so much..
 

pinkyPee

Newbie
Jan 30, 2013
6
0
Peachnibbler said:
Hello Everyone, I am new here. I am Canadian and my husband is Nigerian. He just had his interview on August 28, 2013 and we received an email on the morning of the 30th at 1:00am advising us that he had been refused. I have filed an appeal with the Vancouver office. The reason given was that they do not believe our marriage to be genuine. My husband and I share the same religion; however, I am not African and he is. He is also much younger than me. We met on the internet. We got married on January 2nd, 2013. I have helped him out financially.

During the interview he was basically accused of not telling the truth - for example, that because the officer did not think he had a strong Nigerian accent, that he must have travelled abroad and thus must have a passport that he was not revealing to her. I think this is ludicrous because if he had travelled abroad, he would not have been rejected THREE TIMES for a Canadian visitor's visa (which we tried for before getting married). Also she accused him of being poor (despite the fact that he owns his own home) and looking for a rich white woman on the internet. She herself is caucasian. She also said that I was not integrated into his life....kind of hard since he cannot visit me, and I cannot keep travelling to Nigeria to get "integrated". Despite this we talk twice daily, and I am well connected with his family and friends in Nigeria. So really, he is not integrated in my life! LOL! We also had a small reception due to lack of funds and other issues and she was critical of this.

I have some questions as we start this process and so if anyone has any information, I would be really happy to hear it:

1. Is it worthwhile to hire an immigration lawyer? If so, how much does it cost? What does the lawyer do for you? Will Immigration Canada utilize lawyers against us?
2. What is the appeal process? I see lots of abbreviations but I don't know what they all stand for. It would be great to know how things typically unfold.
3. Is the hearing held in Canada or at Canadian Embassy in his country or in Accra, Ghana where he had his interview?
4. How long can we expect to wait for a hearing?
5. Any suggestions for increasing the proof of the genuineness of our relationship?
6. Is it worthwhile to "attack" the credibility of the immigration officer, to point out flaws in her reasoning, show up her biases and discredit her assumptions as unsubstantiated? I personally feel that she did not have any strong or factual evidence only circumstantial evidence on which she based her decision. (Frankly I'd like to rip her a new one! But that would be very UNCHRISTIAN of me!)
7. How long can an appeal take?
8. Any other information, especially from anyone who has experience with Nigeria/West Africa.

Thank you so much.

Peach Nibbler (crossing over from the Accra Ghana thread)

Hello.......
1. you could apply for the appeal yourself or you could contact lawyer....lawyer costs about $2500-$3000 for ADR and about $5000 for full spousal appeal..... have heard cases of ppl doing it alone and being successful and some have done it with lawyer and still lost... unfortantely , having a lawyer does not guarantee success, but I would recommend going for a consult with one , to give an idea how to prepare for your appeal, ( that might cost about $300 - $500 for one hour consult)
2. when you fill out form to apply for appeal, you will be notified by immigration office if they will consider you for ADR ( alternate dispute resolution) or for full spousal appeal.....ADR's are quicker in time frame and less formal and only YOU the appellant will be interviewed, not your spouse.....usually if there are alot of "concerns" in your file , they will make you do full spousal appeal , where both you and your spouse will be interviewed together (, you will be interviewed at the immigration office in canada nearest you , and your spouse will be interviewed via teleconference on phone and webcam from nigeria)....
3,ADR's are usually within a year after you file your appeal , and full spousal appeals can take up to 2 years before you get it. also, even if you win your ADR and /or appeal it can take another year or so to process everything... the waiting time is cruel......
4. proving your marriage is genuine is mostly based on telephone records, photos, emails, etc .. any correspondence that you have between you, send to them.....
5. I dont think attacking the immigration officer will be beneficial at all..
6. and just a little FYI: sorry to say this but I have heard that nigerians have more difficulty than others in the eyes of immigrations , due to thier "stereotypical" classification of being " scammers".
7. but hang in there, stay hopeful and patient........
 

micmac101

Champion Member
Nov 29, 2010
1,824
71
North Shore of New Brunswick
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
September 2010
LANDED..........
Husband arrived October 17,2014
Please can someone guide me and my husband they are going to refuse our case in 45 days because the marriage was not registered as the lawyer was not registered to sign the Nikka and the Union Council sent the same reply to CIC Islamabad that the lawyer was not registered to sign and my husband had no idea that he wasn't registered please some one help us?? And if they refuse us we cannot appeal and can only file in 2 years we are going on 4 years married!!Please someone help please
 

Guguz

Star Member
Aug 14, 2013
89
0
India
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29 June 2012
Interview........
Feb 11, 2013 (Refused)
VISA ISSUED...
God Knows
Mrs Selim said:
I need the link to appeal my case in Vancouver does anyone have it ??thank you so much..
Hi,

Did u receive the refusal letter??
 

Mrs Selim

Hero Member
Mar 6, 2013
255
15
Vancouver BC
Category........
Visa Office......
Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12-3-2013
Interview........
May 28 2013 denied
Passport Req..
May 5 2015
VISA ISSUED...
May 12 2015
LANDED..........
May 31 2015
No i did not..my husband had his interview last may and was refused visa we never got the letter but i did get the CAIPS notes..
I found a form online tonight to fill in for a appeal ...
 

Guguz

Star Member
Aug 14, 2013
89
0
India
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29 June 2012
Interview........
Feb 11, 2013 (Refused)
VISA ISSUED...
God Knows
Mrs Selim said:
No i did not..my husband had his interview last may and was refused visa we never got the letter but i did get the CAIPS notes..
I found a form online tonight to fill in for a appeal ...
Hi

As per my information, after receiving the refusal letter , u have 30 days to file an appeal... Did u hire a lawyer or consultant?
 

gango girl

Hero Member
Apr 3, 2013
417
6
Mrs Selim said:
No i did not..my husband had his interview last may and was refused visa we never got the letter but i did get the CAIPS notes..
I found a form online tonight to fill in for a appeal ...
Guguz is right. you have only 30 days to apply for a appeal. & how do you know that whether you are refused? how do you know that the letter they sent to you lost in the mail?
so i think i have asked you to copy your husband's refusal letter and download the appeal form and apply for the appeal. please dont get angry for what i'm saying but there is a way of doing these things with the immigration. so, you had to apply your appeal within 30 days. now past is past. do what I told you & go to vancouver IAD office (you can mail it too. but now you are already sooo late. so it is better if you go & hand over the forms) otherwise tell your husband to contact your husband's visa office & ask about it
good luck
 

Newbie01

Star Member
May 27, 2013
54
3
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12-2011
Med's Request
06-2012
Interview........
08-2012
VISA ISSUED...
Denied 08-2014...appealed September 2012, won full hearing June 2014. Request for documents Aug.2014.
Hi,
Could someone please let me know what the process is after the appeal hearing in Vancouver??
Do they make the decision on the spot?
Do they email you their decision?
How long after appeal decision??
Someone please give me some information.
 

Guguz

Star Member
Aug 14, 2013
89
0
India
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29 June 2012
Interview........
Feb 11, 2013 (Refused)
VISA ISSUED...
God Knows
Hi Newbie,

Did u get ur date for hearing. If i am not wrong from almost an year for that.

Thanks
 

Double Rainbow

Hero Member
Oct 23, 2012
626
12
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
07/2012
AOR Received.
09/2012 for Stage 1 approval
File Transfer...
09/2012
Med's Request
03/ 2014
Med's Done....
01/2014
Interview........
Notice received via e-mail for 01/2013
Passport Req..
Notice received via e-mail for 01/2013
VISA ISSUED...
05/2014
LANDED..........
06/ /2014 :D
Lenchik said:
Hi Guguz,

its been 2 month for me after blue book and still nothing, so who knows how long. I guess it depends on a case.
I recieved my blue book July 10th 2013 and no news for me yet either. My appeal will be heard in Vancouver. My lawyer said Vancouver is about 4 months behind just now and thinks my hearing will be in November sometime. As soon as I get any kind of update I will post. Meanwhile I have to get a biopsy done Thursday September 12th. They are checking for lympthoma and diverticulosis as I may have either or both but apparently treatable? I had breast cancer twice but fine and was undergoing many reconstruction surgeries since my mastecomy in 2010. The last 4 of fat transfer from the abdomen, stomach to the breast implants area. It could be scar tissue, hematoma, hernia as well. They did a CT scan that showed 10 lympth nodes enlargened on the left abdomen, pelvic region and 2 more on the right and a 10.5 cm mass on the left abdomen. I had a bacterial infection 9 hours after I ate at a restaurant and lympth nodes can get large with a bacterial infection and diverticulosis. I was on antibiotics for 10 days and I feel great and have been working with no problems. All of my blood work has come back normal. Before my white blood cells in my blood were high indictaing an infection and placed on antibiotics and now it is fine. My blood work for cancer tumor marker tests all came back normal including an extra tumor marker test the cancer doctor ordered so I am hopeful. the doctor that will perform the biopsy said your blood can show normal if you have lympthoma. I thought great they can't even give you any hope because of having a history of breast cancer before. as soon as one thing goes wrong, they are all over you saying it is cancer again. I know they have to be thourough. I go to the cancer doctor and he asks has there been anybody in your familiy that has had ovarian cancer? My jaw drops as I am there to talk about lympthoma and diverticulosis and get another yet kind of cancer thrown at me? Uggghhhhh :( I said Nooooo not that I know of Jeesh :( OMG! I go tomorrow at 8 am to the hospital for ultarsound imaging on my abdomen and breast implants and Immigration lawyer at 3:30 pm yay.Every day off it is a medical appt and immigration lawyer appt for a month now. I feel exhausted but it is all necessary just now. I wiosh hubby were here with me. Hopefully in the not too distant future he will be here sigh.... ??? :(
 

Double Rainbow

Hero Member
Oct 23, 2012
626
12
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
07/2012
AOR Received.
09/2012 for Stage 1 approval
File Transfer...
09/2012
Med's Request
03/ 2014
Med's Done....
01/2014
Interview........
Notice received via e-mail for 01/2013
Passport Req..
Notice received via e-mail for 01/2013
VISA ISSUED...
05/2014
LANDED..........
06/ /2014 :D
Mrs Selim said:
hi all how long did it take for u all too receive your CAIPS NOTES ?? i sent my req 4 weeks ago but did not hear anything yet..and also we are still waiting for the refeusel letter from cairo ambasy sinds may 26 2013
I got my caips notes the same day as the visa refusal letter for my hubby January 24th 2013. I had a immigration rep do my sponsorship file for me as I was not feeling strong enough to do it on my own after so many reconstruction surgeries I had and still undergoing. Refusal date January 08th 2013. Interview date January 07th 2013. I hope this helps? My appeal will be heard in Vancouver. I am praying for everybody here to get their visa's for their spouses in not too long of a wait. God bless all of you XOXO (((((((((hugs))))))))))))
 

Double Rainbow

Hero Member
Oct 23, 2012
626
12
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
07/2012
AOR Received.
09/2012 for Stage 1 approval
File Transfer...
09/2012
Med's Request
03/ 2014
Med's Done....
01/2014
Interview........
Notice received via e-mail for 01/2013
Passport Req..
Notice received via e-mail for 01/2013
VISA ISSUED...
05/2014
LANDED..........
06/ /2014 :D
Newbie01 said:
Hi,
Could someone please let me know what the process is after the appeal hearing in Vancouver??
Do they make the decision on the spot?
Do they email you their decision?
How long after appeal decision??
Someone please give me some information.
Hi Newbie They can give you a decision after an ADR hearing appeal or a full hearing appeal or after both of these but I am not sure how long after. Maybe 30 days ,maybe 90 days? I am not sure on this sorry.