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ASyed

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DENIED VISA on June 22 2015
fkl said:
From what i know so far, child birth is not considered a valid reason at all by visa officers for a person to be there on a visit. They believe the services in Canada are self sufficient for you to go through. I am not for a minute advocating it, but from what i have heard / seen other rejections, this is very likely the basis.
that seems to be the case... that is interesting and unfortunate considering how important our children's births and upbringing are to the Canadian government :)
 

hladha

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Aug 25, 2013
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dextroo said:
My spouse is Canadian national and i applied for TRV in Aug-13 so that i could visit my wife during the birth of our child. I was rejected after 15 days in Sep-13. The three reasons that they stated were:

1) Travel History. ( Which made no sense as i had multiple UK(Study & Visitors), Middle east, Thailand) visa
2) Family Ties in Canada
3) My personal assets.(which also made no sense as i showed my house, cars and other financials).

I re-applied for the TRV on 05-Nov-13 with detailed justifications for all of the above points and after one month on 05-Dec-13 i got an email stating that i should submit my "Proof of Marriage" via email.

Just wanted to check if its a positive sign for me or not.

Regards.

Did you apply online or is it paper based?? I sincerely hope you hear a good news soon!!:)
 

hladha

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dextroo said:
I applied via paper both times from Lahore.

Okay thanks!!:)
 

rm017

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Dec 3, 2013
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My parents temporary visa and super visa has been rejected once. The reasons given for super visa rejection were: 1) Travel History 2) Family ties in home country and 3) Personal Assets and finances.

My other two siblings and I are not living in Pakistan which I think might be the main reason for rejection. My parents have never travelled to Canada although they go to UK quite often and have never overstayed. In my opinion the personal assets are good too. My father has a house, few real estate properties, a small business and a pension.

I contact the Member of Parliament from my region so I can get more info about the rejection. But the Visa office refused to give any more information.

Now I am not sure how to proceed. If nothing significant has changed what can I tell the Visa Officer that will convince him that my parents will return to Pakistan? My mother has a US visa. Should I plan a trip for her to US (like buy the tickets) and then apply for Canadian TRV again, in the hope that the Visa Officer will be more convinced of my intentions.

Any advise on how to proceed is appreciated. Thanks,
 

Tahir Nawaz

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Nov 18, 2013
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Credential Assessment according to Canada

Dear Seniors,


I have completed 16 years of educations. I did B.Com (2 years) and MBA in Finance (2 years).

Is my qualification according to Canada is under-graduated or it will be treated as Post-graduated?

Please please elaborate little bit.

Your input in this will be highly appreciated.

Regards,

Tahir Nawaz
 

fkl

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Apr 25, 2013
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rm017 said:
My parents temporary visa and super visa has been rejected once. The reasons given for super visa rejection were: 1) Travel History 2) Family ties in home country and 3) Personal Assets and finances.

My other two siblings and I are not living in Pakistan which I think might be the main reason for rejection. My parents have never travelled to Canada although they go to UK quite often and have never overstayed. In my opinion the personal assets are good too. My father has a house, few real estate properties, a small business and a pension.

I contact the Member of Parliament from my region so I can get more info about the rejection. But the Visa office refused to give any more information.

Now I am not sure how to proceed. If nothing significant has changed what can I tell the Visa Officer that will convince him that my parents will return to Pakistan? My mother has a US visa. Should I plan a trip for her to US (like buy the tickets) and then apply for Canadian TRV again, in the hope that the Visa Officer will be more convinced of my intentions.

Any advise on how to proceed is appreciated. Thanks,

You definitely need to order gcms notes to see the actual reason first. From your given description it looks like a pretty okay profile. Notes will tell the real story. Information on how to obtain them is all over this forum.

Here is one sample which tells how clearly the gcms notes have reasons written for refusals.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/got-gcms-notes-for-spousal-trv-t162228.0.html
 

fkl

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Re: Credential Assessment according to Canada

Tahir Nawaz said:
Dear Seniors,


I have completed 16 years of educations. I did B.Com (2 years) and MBA in Finance (2 years).

Is my qualification according to Canada is under-graduated or it will be treated as Post-graduated?

Please please elaborate little bit.

Your input in this will be highly appreciated.

Regards,

Tahir Nawaz
In one phrase under-grad. 15 or 16 years is still under-grad. One with at least 17 years with some further requirements will qualify for masters. One way to see details of this closely is to go through the skilled worker immigration program points calculator (FSW). It asks for details of your education at one point.

That being said, please do know that Canada is notorious for not accepting foreign educations. They have their own regulations about each and every profession. I will write an example of a profession close to yours.

I know some body who did an MBA in HR being a position holder, taught for some time in his university and latter worked in HR of PIA for many years. Still when he went on immigration to Canada, HR is a total different concept there i.e. it has to be some one with a bare minimum education of legal system and practices specific to Canada. Suffice to say, he CANNOT be employed in an HR role in Canada since qualifications don't exactly fulfill the requirements. Note the difference, i didn't say he didn't get a job, that might vary from person to person, but rather his Pakistani qualifications and experience was not enough for a similar role in Canada. So he took some other jobs while doing courses of HR and stuff there and it took a while to get through.

It is far more complex for engineering graduates or Doctors whose professions are regulated ones and really difficult to be fulfilled with foreign education.

However, there are positives too for e.g. IT is considered a skill, so there is no formal requirement and often people's experience is valued and accepted as it is without much further effort depending upon need of specific skill set and expertise.
 

layla.bee

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Jul 26, 2013
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fkl said:
You definitely need to order gcms notes to see the actual reason first. From your given description it looks like a pretty okay profile. Notes will tell the real story. Information on how to obtain them is all over this forum.

Here is one sample which tells how clearly the gcms notes have reasons written for refusals.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/got-gcms-notes-for-spousal-trv-t162228.0.html
Yes FKL is completely right. Order notes.
 

Tahir Nawaz

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Nov 18, 2013
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Re: Credential Assessment according to Canada

fkl said:
In one phrase under-grad. 15 or 16 years is still under-grad. One with at least 17 years with some further requirements will qualify for masters. One way to see details of this closely is to go through the skilled worker immigration program points calculator (FSW). It asks for details of your education at one point.

That being said, please do know that Canada is notorious for not accepting foreign educations. They have their own regulations about each and every profession. I will write an example of a profession close to yours.

I know some body who did an MBA in HR being a position holder, taught for some time in his university and latter worked in HR of PIA for many years. Still when he went on immigration to Canada, HR is a total different concept there i.e. it has to be some one with a bare minimum education of legal system and practices specific to Canada. Suffice to say, he CANNOT be employed in an HR role in Canada since qualifications don't exactly fulfill the requirements. Note the difference, i didn't say he didn't get a job, that might vary from person to person, but rather his Pakistani qualifications and experience was not enough for a similar role in Canada. So he took some other jobs while doing courses of HR and stuff there and it took a while to get through.

It is far more complex for engineering graduates or Doctors whose professions are regulated ones and really difficult to be fulfilled with foreign education.

However, there are positives too for e.g. IT is considered a skill, so there is no formal requirement and often people's experience is valued and accepted as it is without much further effort depending upon need of specific skill set and expertise.
Thank you very much for your detailed reply. Would you please guide me more. I need to see my standings points for FSW Visa. Where I can calculate this?

I have told you about my education. What do you think about my chances? Me and my wife did 16 years of education.

Regards,

Tahir Nawaz
 

fkl

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Re: Credential Assessment according to Canada

Tahir Nawaz said:
Thank you very much for your detailed reply. Would you please guide me more. I need to see my standings points for FSW Visa. Where I can calculate this?

I have told you about my education. What do you think about my chances? Me and my wife did 16 years of education.

Regards,

Tahir Nawaz
You can just try the following details and calculate yourself.

This is the official cic link with another one containing further details
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-factors.asp
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-who.asp

and here are two sample points calculators (though there are many)
http://www.workpermit.com/canada/points_calculator.htm
http://www.canada-da.com/calculator.html
 

anvar21

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Nov 24, 2012
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Hi guys
I have one year valid work permit under noc 8251 I am apiary technician working as a supervisor in Manitoba. I want to bring my wife and daughter here for summer but for the first time they got refused that time my wife wasn't working, i was working at coffee shop in Alberta and now she is working at high school as a physics teacher. They are in Uzbekistan and Canadaian embassy in Moscow is responsible for uzbek citizen.
how much chance they have. What kind of documents we have to prepare.
Can please if some has same experience please share your situation and advice.
Thank you very much.
 

2013applicant

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February inshAllah!
Aoa,

I am a Canadian Citizen and I got married in August 2013. My marriage took place in Pakistan and my husband is a Citizen of Pakistan. I applied for Spousal Sponsorship in Early November and my file was received by CIC on Nov 7th, 2013 (I have not gotten a file number yet). My husband would like to visit me here in Canada temporarily for the time being as the spousal sponsorship takes quite a bit of time (31 months on average according to the CIC website). Can someone please guide me as to when we (I or he?) are eligible to apply for a visit visa and how to go about it. Do we use the Generic application for Visit Visa on the CIC website in this case? And also, please advise on what makes the case strong.

Notes:
- I am a University Student with < $15,000/annual income
- My husband is well settled in Pakistan (Working in his profession, has permanent place of residence)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank You in advance :)
 

dextroo

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2013applicant said:
Aoa,

I am a Canadian Citizen and I got married in August 2013. My marriage took place in Pakistan and my husband is a Citizen of Pakistan. I applied for Spousal Sponsorship in Early November and my file was received by CIC on Nov 7th, 2013 (I have not gotten a file number yet). My husband would like to visit me here in Canada temporarily for the time being as the spousal sponsorship takes quite a bit of time (31 months on average according to the CIC website). Can someone please guide me as to when we (I or he?) are eligible to apply for a visit visa and how to go about it. Do we use the Generic application for Visit Visa on the CIC website in this case? And also, please advise on what makes the case strong.

Notes:
- I am a University Student with < $15,000/annual income
- My husband is well settled in Pakistan (Working in his profession, has permanent place of residence)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank You in advance :)
Hi,

My case is exactly the same, but in my case my wife is not working. She has been living with me in PAK. Recently we had our first child and i applied for visit visa so that i could visit Canada to be with them. I was rejected in Sept-13 .(u can refer to my earlier posts on page 44,45 for that under the name dextroo) I re-applied in Nov-13 and still waiting for reply. In most of the cases i have heard getting visit visa in-case ur spouse is Canadian is v difficult. One has to show extremely strong ties home(Pakistan) and have to convince them that your spouse will return back home.

If you have any further queries please feel free to contact.

Regards
 

fkl

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dextroo said:
Hi,

My case is exactly the same, but in my case my wife is not working. She has been living with me in PAK. Recently we had our first child and i applied for visit visa so that i could visit Canada to be with them. I was rejected in Sept-13 .(u can refer to my earlier posts on page 44,45 for that under the name dextroo) I re-applied in Nov-13 and still waiting for reply. In most of the cases i have heard getting visit visa in-case ur spouse is Canadian is v difficult. One has to show extremely strong ties home(Pakistan) and have to convince them that your spouse will return back home.

If you have any further queries please feel free to contact.

Regards
I would second what dextroo said. They suspect the only motivation you have is to be with your spouse there in Canada permanently and the correct way to do that is go through spousal sponsorship. Attempts for trv seems more like a getaway on passing that time frame.

May be if your spouse has a good profile, it is good idea to find a job for him there, get an LMO and apply for temp work permit.

Though i would say if your spouse has a really good profile back home i.e. very good job + own a good deal of property and stuff / business etc. then an attempt on visit visa might be worth a try.