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[Asivad Anac]

I know i have had loads of replies but this is more confusing than it actually shows.

As per your suggestion i should decline ITA do my IELTS, reenter the pool and start all over again, while as per other threads like one here -

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/ielts-expiring-do-i-appear-again-t287979.0.html;msg4301546#msg4301546

It is evident that one has to have a valid IELTS on the date of ITA received, if it expires later, you can submit the new IELTS results after getting the fresh numbers, i am merely asking what to follow and what not.

So it is beneficial for me to ask and clear things before i just decline my ITA right away.

Thoughts.

I disagree with that thread. You can't carry forward an invalid IELTS on your profile for 'x' days while you wait out for your revised IELTS score. There is the danger of getting a lower test score which will drop the CRS further but there is also the confusion of you turning ineligible temporarily and then miraculously 'regaining' eligibility. There is nothing on CIC supporting such eligibility resurrections.

You might be lucky to get away with it if a series of IF's go your way. Or you can just decline, repeat IELTS and wait for an end August draw. Your call.

All the best!

 

[intensecool]

Hi Asivad,

Thanks for your help on this. Could you help with the following scenarios -

1. Let's say i decline my ITA, will my PR ITA disappear and my old application reopens again for editing. In that case again i will have July 27th as my IELTS date, should i do this and go ahead with your date recommendation so as not to let my IELTS expire till the time i don't get my new IELTS score.

2. Let's say i don't decline my ITA and my IELTS expires on 27th July, what happens in that case, will my EE profile expire, how will that expire since i see it has already been closed due to ITA.

In this case, what happens with my PR application, will that automatically close considering my IELTS expiration.

In both cases, if i don't decline and if i decline ITA, what happens in my profile, it will automatically expire right ?

If yes is the answer, i believe i have my answer of letting the IELTS date expiring without declining, let the system do what it is supposed to do.

If there is different outcome i need to consider accordingly.

Thoughts.

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hi Asivad,

Thanks for your help on this. Could you help with the following scenarios -

1. Let's say i decline my ITA, will my PR ITA disappear and my old application reopens again for editing. In that case again i will have July 27th as my IELTS date, should i do this and go ahead with your date recommendation so as not to let my IELTS expire till the time i don't get my new IELTS score.

This is possible and will happen exactly like that. If you decline your ITA, your profile will unlock. You won't have to create another profile.

2. Let's say i don't decline my ITA and my IELTS expires on 27th July, what happens in that case, will my EE profile expire, how will that expire since i see it has already been closed due to ITA.

In this case, what happens with my PR application, will that automatically close considering my IELTS expiration.

I'm fairly certain that your ITA will not disappear. The onus of maintaining the truthfulness of information lies on the applicant and not on the system.

What will happen here is that your 'locked' profile will have a certain IELTS TRF with a certain date. The smaller worry for you is your IELTS score in the August attempt. If you score lesser than the original attempt, you'll decline the ITA anyways. If you score equal to or more than your original attempt, you will edit your post ITA profile with a different IELTS TRF, date and score. This mismatch is what you need to be worried about. Even that won't make your profile invalid automatically. Your application can be submitted even with this mismatch. And it might even make it all the way to PR without being noticed. But if they notice the mismatch, your application will be rejected and you might be charged with misrepresentation. And all this will happen only because the basic application is 'frozen' after ITA. And there are reasons why CIC does that. This case being one such reason.

In both cases, if i don't decline and if i decline ITA, what happens in my profile, it will automatically expire right ?

If yes is the answer, i believe i have my answer of letting the IELTS date expiring without declining, let the system do what it is supposed to do.

If there is different outcome i need to consider accordingly.

Thoughts.

 

[dobes]

I disagree with that thread. You can't carry forward an invalid IELTS on your profile for 'x' days while you wait out for your revised IELTS score. There is the danger of getting a lower test score which will drop the CRS further but there is also the confusion of you turning ineligible temporarily and then miraculously 'regaining' eligibility. There is nothing on CIC supporting such eligibility resurrections.

You might be lucky to get away with it if a series of IF's go your way. Or you can just decline, repeat IELTS and wait for an end August draw. Your call.

All the best!

I don't understand this answer. While I was waiting for an ITA, I rescheduled my IELTS exam, as its eligibility was close to expiring. I believe it was expiring on April 11 or so, and I was able to reschedule an exam for April 18. I got an ITA on March 27, but couldn't schedule a medical exam until May 6, so could not turn in my application until May 7, by which time the IELTS results would have expired.

I retook the IELTS on April 18 and got the results 2 weeks later, before the medical exam. My results and my partner's remained at 9 overall, so the new results did not affect our EE or FSW score. I entered the new test numbers on my PR application, wrote a letter of explanation, and uploaded the new exams with the letter for good measure.

I would not have declined the ITA for this reason unless our new scores had made our points fall below the cut-off for our draw. ITAs are not that easy to come by, and no one - especially no one without an LMIA or PNP - is assured of getting a second one.

We haven't made it through the process yet, but the two IELTS results haven't been questioned, either, and I don't see why they would be. The first were valid when I filled out my EE application and when I got my ITA, and the second when I applied for PR.

 

[intensecool]

I sort of 100% agree with you, it's natural and logical.

You file up with ORIGINAL IELTS score, the system selects you on that basis.

Now when you submit the final PR application with a letter of explanation and newer results, IT IS LOGICAL UNDERSTANDING that post ITA the IELTS expired but to make sure my scores remain valid i did my tests again and submitted a valid one. There is no misrepresentation or anything. It's a logical way of managing things ,since this is how the system is designed.

If i decline, as Dobes said there is no surity of getting in again, i already skipped the possibility of PNP, i don;t think it's wise to leave ITA since i have a valid IELTS ON DATE OF ITA and VALID IELTS DURING MY APPLICATION PROCESS.

 

[Asivad Anac]

There is no misrepresentation if you explicitly point out the revised IELTS score and proclaim that the previous test expired after ITA hence you've repeated the test again post ITA and are submitting revised scores now. Misrepresentation comes into the picture when CIC identifies deliberate untruths/discrepancies which you haven't informed them about using an LOE.

When you send in an LOE, the misrepresentation piece is ruled out but the mismatch piece continues to exist. We can keep debating on this but the final call is taken by a CIC officer. None of us are privy to their internal workings all the way.

Hope it works out for you - both in the 2nd IELTS attempt and your PR application. All the best!

 

[dobes]

There is no misrepresentation if you explicitly point out the revised IELTS score and proclaim that the previous test expired after ITA hence you've repeated the test again post ITA and are submitting revised scores now. Misrepresentation comes into the picture when CIC identifies deliberate untruths/discrepancies which you haven't informed them about using an LOE.

When you send in an LOE, the misrepresentation piece is ruled out but the mismatch piece continues to exist. We can keep debating on this but the final call is taken by a CIC officer. None of us are privy to their internal workings all the way.

Hope it works out for you - both in the 2nd IELTS attempt and your PR application. All the best!

Yes - and without misrepresentation, the very worst that will happen (and I don't believe it will) is that your application will be returned and you will have to wait for another ITA - which is also what will happen if you decline.

I'll tell you what - mine is far ahead of yours in the process If it is rejected for this reason, I will PN you and you can withdraw yours and get back in the pool faster than you would waiting for a rejection - okay? I'll also let you know if we get PR, so you can relax...

 

[abyurla]

Only in Nigeria

Night Vigil? Where are you from?

 

[ConnieD]

Hi guys, GREAT DAY FOR ME!!!!! ;D ;D
I subbmited my EE Profile 3 days ago woth only 451 points, as my husbands IELTS results aren't ready yet (with those we'll be arond 465) and got ITA!!!!!!! :
I'm so surprised and hapy I can't even believe myself!
This forum has been so useful and nice to have available.
Wish all those who got ITA best of luck and those who haven't got it yet, don't lose hope, it'll come!!!!!!!!!

PS: I personally believe that when rounds are very close to each other points tend to decrease as less amount of candidates are int he pool with no ITA. And those with the higher points were invited in the previous one.

 

[lovesumi]

I updated but forgot submitting my wife's IELTS in my application.
Just submitted. My score is now 454.
Feeling like a idiot :-X :-\ :-[ :'(

 

[uxd]

Woke up to the great news in morning. Ive been waiting since March. rcvd ITA at 457. Had appeared for CELPIP last week again but score not rcvd. Had registered spouse's CELPIP too and now thinking of cancelling that.

Any idea what to do when I rcv new CELPIP scores? Can I still use old score if god forbid for some reason my new score is less than my current one ;D.

Congrats to all who rcvd ITA.
And keep working on your CRS guys, you will get it.

 

[Asivad Anac]

Woke up to the great news in morning. Ive been waiting since March. rcvd ITA at 457. Had appeared for CELPIP last week again but score not rcvd. Had registered spouse's CELPIP too and now thinking of cancelling that.

Any idea what to do when I rcv new CELPIP scores? Can I still use old score if god forbid for some reason my new score is less than my current one ;D.

Congrats to all who rcvd ITA.
And keep working on your CRS guys, you will get it.

Congratulations on getting an ITA!

Relax. Whatever you score on that CELPIP effort won't make any difference to your application.

 

[uxd]

Congratulations on getting an ITA!

Relax. Whatever you score on that CELPIP effort won't make any difference to your application.

Thanks for the reply! So i can still use unexpired previous celpip score eventhough in current re exam, i get whatever points. So it is about expired and unexpired scores only. Recent scores doesnt matter? Have i understood it correctly?

 

[Asivad Anac]

Thanks for the reply! So i can still use unexpired previous celpip score eventhough in current re exam, i get whatever points. So it is about expired and unexpired scores only. Recent scores doesnt matter? Have i understood it correctly?

Exactly!

 

[groundbirch]

Got my ITA this morning with 483!
I went up from 459 just a week ago, so I've actually been waiting a little while and it was such a relief. I still think it would be great for potential candidates' well-being if they told us in advance when the next draw was. Or at least say, not before 2 weeks, etc, so people don't have to stress out about it every week.

Anyway, question:
When filling the addresses on the online form, I don't see any line to put the ZIP code. One does not appear when I put my country either, so where are we supposed to fill it in?