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[immicow]

Below is my latest status from CBSA. Still shows security not started. It has been assigned to group name PNP 11.2 Met - Ready for Security. Group Number : KLBAAPV.
My re-medical passed on oct 22. I can see it logs on my latest notes as well. So that matches. I am extremely disappointed with security status.
This document looks like it was generated on 2021-11-04 from the time stamp on each page. I had a ghost update on 15th November. So may they did something to my file later?

Can someone have a look and make a comment? May be I am missing something.

https://ibb.co/ckQKh4h

 

[Ar12345]

So I wrote a long email to the immigration minister a while back (https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/fsw-worldwide.739338/post-9771716). Today I got a response lol. Here it is:

"Thank you for your correspondence of October 13, 2021, addressed to the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship, regarding the processing of your application for permanent residence. I have been asked to respond to your concerns.



I appreciate you sharing the reasons that prompted you to write. Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) has put special measures in place due to the novel coronavirus (COVID-19), which may disrupt services. Information about How the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) is affecting immigration, refugees, citizenship and passport services can be found on the Department’s Website.



The Department realizes that those who have submitted their applications look forward to a decision being rendered within a reasonable waiting period after applying. IRCC makes every effort to manage the applications it receives in the most efficient and effective way.



The processing times listed on IRCC’s Website are published to give applicants a general idea of how long an application process may take. These times are estimates based on how long the Department expects most applications to take under normal circumstances if they apply today. Please note, however, that this can vary depending on the number of applications the Department has received, as well as the circumstances and complexity of each individual case.



Maintaining the integrity of Canada’s immigration program is a priority of the Government of Canada. Individuals who want to live permanently in Canada must meet program eligibility requirements, as well as statutory medical, criminality, and security background clearances. These requirements exist to protect the interests and safety of Canadians. The onus rests on the applicants to prove that they have met the requirements for entry to Canada or that admission would not be contrary to legislative requirements.



IRCC conducts background checks by working together with partner agencies, such as the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, the Canada Border Services Agency, medical authorities, and agencies of foreign governments. Background screening processes are non-discriminatory and universal in their application. Any delays that may occur as IRCC’s partner agencies conduct the background checks are something over which the Department has no control.



IRCC records confirm that your application for permanent residence was received on May 30, 2020, and is being processed. The eligibility is passed; the security checks and criminality checks are pending, and your medical examination results expired on June 9, 2021. While I cannot give you a timeframe for the completion of this application, please be assured that you will be contacted if additional information or documentation is required, or whether a new medical examination is necessary. To check on the status of an application, please visit theIRCC Website.



While the impacts of COVID-19 have had an effect on the Department’s operations and ability to respond to and process applications, please be assured that IRCC continues to explore options to facilitate processing in these extraordinary times, including finalizing applications virtually.



Thank you for writing. While I understand that this may not be the response you had anticipated, I hope that you will find this information to be helpful.



Sincerely,



XXX

Ministerial Enquiries Division"

 

[Ranger91]

Unless you're in IT/compsci/software, you'll be dreaming of your current job when you realize it's taking you 6-12 months to find a non-survival job in Canada.

https://careers.workopolis.com/advice/how-long-does-it-take-canadians-to-get-a-new-job/ It says:

Job searches can last anywhere from two days to over a year, but for most people it is roughly four months.

The article doesn't mention "immigrants" so we can understand Canadian citizens were included in the poll too. For immigrants it takes longer than that so go figure.

Well I've known quite alot of people who immigrated over the last few years all of which got employment within 2 months of actively job searching within their areas of specialisation but please by all means proceed with your doom and gloom comments as you have been over the past year or so.

 

[dankboi]

So I wrote a long email to the immigration minister a while back (https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/fsw-worldwide.739338/post-9771716). Today I got a response lol. Here it is:

"Thank you for your correspondence of October 13, 2021, addressed to the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship, regarding the processing of your application for permanent residence. I have been asked to respond to your concerns.



I appreciate you sharing the reasons that prompted you to write. Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) has put special measures in place due to the novel coronavirus (COVID-19), which may disrupt services. Information about How the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) is affecting immigration, refugees, citizenship and passport services can be found on the Department’s Website.



The Department realizes that those who have submitted their applications look forward to a decision being rendered within a reasonable waiting period after applying. IRCC makes every effort to manage the applications it receives in the most efficient and effective way.



The processing times listed on IRCC’s Website are published to give applicants a general idea of how long an application process may take. These times are estimates based on how long the Department expects most applications to take under normal circumstances if they apply today. Please note, however, that this can vary depending on the number of applications the Department has received, as well as the circumstances and complexity of each individual case.



Maintaining the integrity of Canada’s immigration program is a priority of the Government of Canada. Individuals who want to live permanently in Canada must meet program eligibility requirements, as well as statutory medical, criminality, and security background clearances. These requirements exist to protect the interests and safety of Canadians. The onus rests on the applicants to prove that they have met the requirements for entry to Canada or that admission would not be contrary to legislative requirements.



IRCC conducts background checks by working together with partner agencies, such as the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, the Canada Border Services Agency, medical authorities, and agencies of foreign governments. Background screening processes are non-discriminatory and universal in their application. Any delays that may occur as IRCC’s partner agencies conduct the background checks are something over which the Department has no control.



IRCC records confirm that your application for permanent residence was received on May 30, 2020, and is being processed. The eligibility is passed; the security checks and criminality checks are pending, and your medical examination results expired on June 9, 2021. While I cannot give you a timeframe for the completion of this application, please be assured that you will be contacted if additional information or documentation is required, or whether a new medical examination is necessary. To check on the status of an application, please visit theIRCC Website.



While the impacts of COVID-19 have had an effect on the Department’s operations and ability to respond to and process applications, please be assured that IRCC continues to explore options to facilitate processing in these extraordinary times, including finalizing applications virtually.



Thank you for writing. While I understand that this may not be the response you had anticipated, I hope that you will find this information to be helpful.



Sincerely,



XXX

Ministerial Enquiries Division"

While the impacts of COVID-19 have had an effect on the Department’s operations and ability to respond to and process applications, please be assured that IRCC continues to explore options to facilitate processing in these extraordinary times, including finalizing applications virtually.


applicant who read this response from ircc:

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

Well I've known quite alot of people who immigrated over the last few years all of which got employment within 2 months of actively job searching within their areas of specialisation but please by all means proceed with your doom and gloom comments as you have been over the past year or so.

The link says people found jobs in 2 days. Will you go out and celebrate now? lol. I understand the psychology of an immigrant especially if Canada is their only chance but what I shared was a study that measured both citizens and immigrants and found an avarage of 4 months (cba to find studies specific to immigrants now, do your own research) to which you responded with "my friends...". If you know some statistics you can see where you're going wrong. You might get lucky and find a job in a week; or super unlucky and not find a job in a year. Unlike you, I have options other than Canada and thanks to that I am not afraid of facing polls and studies about Canada's job market. What's not right is desperate people who like to bend facts the way they want; but I don't do that and all I care is to look at Canada from an unbiased perspective as much as possible.

I should say I was just like you moving to Canada for the first time; my expectations (and dreams) were on the moon. Do your research and set your expectations carefully because reality won't care about what you or your friends think. Not that I care what you'll end up feeling; I just hate playing the desperate immigrant here especially after the shitshow that's been going on for the last 2 years.

Also I should add that whenever people got bashed for "spreading doom & gloom", they actually turned out right. We were witch hunting fellas who said there wouldn't be a single FSW draw in 2021 right? Keep living in your own dreams but it's also good to know what the reality is.

 

[dankboi]

Via reddit message

PNP- Outland NOC- 2173
No dependents
COR/ Nationality- Dominican Republic
VO- Mexico City
AOR- October 2019
Re-medical Request- March 2021
PPR- November 19 2021

 

[dankboi]

based on the unreliable data from immitracker, from the third week of September 2021, ~65% of the PPR's went to outland applications. As one of the ircc representative's barely mentioned in the conference, that next year they won't be focusing on inlands like they did on 2020-2021 seems promising

 

[EscoBlades]

based on the unreliable data from immitracker, from the third week of September 2021, ~65% of the PPR's went to outland applications. As one of the ircc representative's barely mentioned in the conference, that next year they won't be focusing on inlands like they did on 2020-2021 seems promising

I'd caution against speculating on any of IRCC's future plans based on an unreliable 2nd hand account from some consultant, on what some non senior IRCC officials said at a conference that wasn't public facing.

 

[dankboi]

from reddit DM
FSW- Outland
dependent- 1
COR/ Nationality- U.S.A
VO- Ottawa
AOR-January 2020
PPR- November 19 2021

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

I was curious: Do we have any reason to expect the new mandate letter should end the inland-only era? Isn't it JT who writes those letters? Why would he think differently now? I don't know if it was stated specifically in MM's mandate letter that he should turn to inland-only so this might be a very dumb question. Who made the decision for inland-only and who can turn it back? Facts and sources please (news etc).

 

[Alysson]

I was curious: Do we have any reason to expect the new mandate letter should end the inland-only era? Isn't it JT who writes those letters? Why would he think differently now? I don't know if it was stated specifically in MM's mandate letter that he should turn to inland-only so this might be a very dumb question. Who made the decision for inland-only and who can turn it back? Facts and sources please (news etc).

It was not stated the focus for inland. Only to follow Health Canada and public safety’s lead on border entry. It stated the TR2PR path though

 

[EscoBlades]

I was curious: Do we have any reason to expect the new mandate letter should end the inland-only era? Isn't it JT who writes those letters? Why would he think differently now? I don't know if it was stated specifically in MM's mandate letter that he should turn to inland-only so this might be a very dumb question. Who made the decision for inland-only and who can turn it back? Facts and sources please (news etc).

You can read it yourself. Nothing in the mandate letter directed them to focus on inland candidates. That was bourne out of needed to follow Public Health Canada guidelines, and abide hy border restrictions.
https://pm.gc.ca/en/mandate-letters/2021/01/15/archived-minister-immigration-refugees-and-citizenship-supplementary

Specifically, the supplementary instructions to MM at the time included:

• Continue to implement measures that create pathways to permanent residency for those who have provided health care in long-term care homes or medical facilities or performed other essential services during the COVID-19 pandemic. [this was the crux of part of the temporary TR to PR pathway]
• Continue exploring pathways to permanent residency and citizenship for temporary foreign workers.

 

[RSub]

Sean Fraser prepared to increase Canada’s immigration levels even as 46,000 immigrants landed in October

 

[Deleted member 1050918]

You can read it yourself. Nothing in the mandate letter directed them to focus on inland candidates. That was bourne out of needed to follow Public Health Canada guidelines, and abide hy border restrictions.
https://pm.gc.ca/en/mandate-letters/2021/01/15/archived-minister-immigration-refugees-and-citizenship-supplementary

Specifically, the supplementary instructions to MM at the time included:

• Continue to implement measures that create pathways to permanent residency for those who have provided health care in long-term care homes or medical facilities or performed other essential services during the COVID-19 pandemic. [this was the crux of part of the temporary TR to PR pathway]
• Continue exploring pathways to permanent residency and citizenship for temporary foreign workers.

The inland-only call sort of came from JT then. TR2PR and CEC are different streams but CEC candidates are temporary workers as well; maybe that's how they got lucky. I kind of get the feeling that JT needs to change his mind about inland-only first for us to see solid changes. Like it may not be best news for us if there's a mention of temporary foreign workers in the new mandate letter.

 

[EscoBlades]

The inland-only call sort of came from JT then. TR2PR and CEC are different streams but CEC candidates are temporary workers as well; maybe that's how they got lucky. I kind of get the feeling that JT needs to change his mind about inland-only first for us to see solid changes.

I don't agree that the inland only call came from JT. I don't think he knows the specifics, or cares to be perfectly honest. He specifically says the following:

"Nothing in this letter replaces any previous commitments or expectations."
This is effectively telling MM that despite the pandemic, and subsequent border closures and travel restrictions, the immigration levels that were previously set are still the KPIs that him and his department(s) needed to try and hit. A number of IRCC directors commented on needing to "get creative" if they were to hit their targets, and you can see the direction came from on high.

TR to PR was one of the ways MM and IRCC though to respond to this. It focused primarily on those who worked in essential services and/ or health services fields. Yes, recent graduates from Canadian universities were lumped in with that number, but that program was specifically to address the essential services bullet point.

Note that the TFW bullet point doesn't distinguish between inland or outland, or even between the streams. It simply directs MM to "Continue exploring pathways to permanent residency and citizenship for temporary foreign workers". Given that they couldn't process and land TFWs originating from outside the country due to travel restrictions and issued COPRs expiring, MM and IRCC figured that they could try and hit their numbers via the TFWs already in Canada. Hence the shift in priority to inland candidates.