FSW WORLDWIDE
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Vidnomenon
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- Oct 19, 2021
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- Category........
- FSW
- NOC Code......
- 1123
- AOR Received.
- 06-01-2021
- Med's Done....
- 27-10-2020
- Passport Req..
- 20-06-2022
We're just as interested in moving to Canada as we've always been regardless of what you suggest and pretty much anything IRCC tosses up.
At worst, you're trying to discourage people from moving, hard to do when all you have is words to dissuade folks who have put in time and effort and resources.
At best, you're playing devil's advocate and trying to use some kind of reverse psychology to make us stop blasting IRCC and the immigration by thinking of Canada in a nationalist manner, also hard to do when everyone here has been objectively disappointed by them.
We're people, individuals who have our own thoughts and emotions and we can hate the process and still want to come to the country.
Best thing to do is contribute to the discussion or just watch for updates.
Lol, I wish it was like that here in Brazil. I had to give up a masters because I couldn't stop working. Here in Brazil, the public universities work deliberately to prevent you from working. You don't get much options for class hours and they are like, 1 from 9-11 another from 15-17. Unless you work night shift, they make it impossible to work any other time of day. And the stipend is crappy 1500 a month which now the president cut all funding that was left, so now you just get free tuition.
Really? That's saddening, I've always thought that you could do work and grad school at the same time, and I was actually surprised when I looked at US/Canadian universities and most of them limits your work opportunities if you enrol at a graduate program.
In contrast, a lot people here actually suggest that it would be much better for you to work simultaneously if you want to go grad school, so that your work can give you ideas on what to write in your thesis. And it's sort of true, most of my classmates in grad school actually have work while studying, and if you look at their thesis, it's pretty obvious that their work influenced their topic.
Looking back I think I would have never done my MS, if there was a strict "study only or work only" policy. Though I admit I Ieft my position in the last few months to focus on my research work, but a few months unemployed is better than being unemployed during the entire duration of the program.
Canadian immigration is making major changes to the NOC in 2022
IRCC and ESDC will implement the changes in fall 2022.
Canada has introduced NOC 2021 and the immigration system will incorporate the changes in 2022.
The National Occupational Classification (NOC) is a major part of Canada’s immigration system. Skilled worker candidates and temporary foreign workers need to demonstrate their work experience corresponds with NOC requirements of the program they are applying to. For instance, Express Entry is the main way to immigrate to Canada as a skilled worker, and candidates need to demonstrate their work experience falls under NOC skill level 0, A, or B as one of the eligibility factors under Express Entry.
The NOC is Canada’s national reference for occupations. It categorizes employment activities in Canada to help understand the nature of the Canadian labour market, run government programs, promote skills development, conduct research, and help Canada manage its immigration and foreign worker programs
Every ten years, the federal government conducts a major revision of the NOC. Changes to the NOC reflect changes to the Canadian economy and labour market.
In September, Statistics Canada and Employment and Social Development Canada (ESDC) unveiled NOC 2021.
NOC 2021 is the final outcome of a major process that involved extensive research, analysis, and assessment of the Canadian economy.
Currently, Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC), ESDC, and Canada’s provinces and territories use NOC 2016 to operate immigration and foreign worker programs. In an email to CIC News, IRCC explained that both it and ESDC will not implement NOC 2021 until the fall of 2022.
The reason for this is the federal government wants to give stakeholders, including immigration applicants, more time to learn about how NOC 2021 may affect them.
Summary of changes
ESDC summarizes the changes to NOC 2021 as follows:
How will immigrants and foreign workers be impacted?
For many immigration and foreign worker candidates, NOC 2021 will have little to no impact on them. This is because despite changes to the NOC, their work experience will continue to meet the eligibility criteria for their desired immigration or foreign worker program. On the other hand, the changes will help some applicants while hurt others. Some may now find themselves eligible for additional programs since their work experience has been reclassified. Others may find themselves no longer eligible for the same reason.
It remains unclear at this point how applicants will be affected. Stakeholders will need to continue to wait for IRCC and ESDC to provide further information.
This Statistics Canada tool allows individuals to see how their current NOC corresponds with NOC 2021. The table below provides an indication of how the four NOC skill levels have been redistributed across the six new TEER groups.
Statistics Canada explains there are two major reasons why the skill type model is being replaced by the TEER system. First, the TEER system aims to provide more clarity on the level of education and work experience required to work in an occupation. Second, Statistics Canada believes the skill type model creates artificial categorizations between low- and high-skilled jobs. Implementing TEER will hopefully give stakeholders a better sense of the amount of skills required for each occupation.
IRCC and ESDC will implement the changes in fall 2022.
Canada has introduced NOC 2021 and the immigration system will incorporate the changes in 2022.
The National Occupational Classification (NOC) is a major part of Canada’s immigration system. Skilled worker candidates and temporary foreign workers need to demonstrate their work experience corresponds with NOC requirements of the program they are applying to. For instance, Express Entry is the main way to immigrate to Canada as a skilled worker, and candidates need to demonstrate their work experience falls under NOC skill level 0, A, or B as one of the eligibility factors under Express Entry.
The NOC is Canada’s national reference for occupations. It categorizes employment activities in Canada to help understand the nature of the Canadian labour market, run government programs, promote skills development, conduct research, and help Canada manage its immigration and foreign worker programs
Every ten years, the federal government conducts a major revision of the NOC. Changes to the NOC reflect changes to the Canadian economy and labour market.
In September, Statistics Canada and Employment and Social Development Canada (ESDC) unveiled NOC 2021.
NOC 2021 is the final outcome of a major process that involved extensive research, analysis, and assessment of the Canadian economy.
Currently, Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC), ESDC, and Canada’s provinces and territories use NOC 2016 to operate immigration and foreign worker programs. In an email to CIC News, IRCC explained that both it and ESDC will not implement NOC 2021 until the fall of 2022.
The reason for this is the federal government wants to give stakeholders, including immigration applicants, more time to learn about how NOC 2021 may affect them.
Summary of changes
ESDC summarizes the changes to NOC 2021 as follows:
- The NOC’s current four-category “skill level” structure has been overhauled and replaced by a new six-category system that outlines the level of Training, Education, Experience and Responsibilities (TEER) to enter each occupation. Up until now, the NOC has featured 4 skill levels. NOC A represents jobs that tend to require university degrees, NOC B represents jobs that are in the skilled trades or require a college diploma, NOC C represents jobs that require intermediate skills or job-specific training, and NOC D are labour jobs that require on the job training.
- NOC 2021 will use a five-tier hierarchical system to classify occupations. Occupations will now have a five-digit codification system instead of the current four-digit system.
| TEER 0 |
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| TEER 1 |
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| TEER 2 |
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| TEER 3 |
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| TEER 4 |
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| TEER 5 |
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How will immigrants and foreign workers be impacted?
For many immigration and foreign worker candidates, NOC 2021 will have little to no impact on them. This is because despite changes to the NOC, their work experience will continue to meet the eligibility criteria for their desired immigration or foreign worker program. On the other hand, the changes will help some applicants while hurt others. Some may now find themselves eligible for additional programs since their work experience has been reclassified. Others may find themselves no longer eligible for the same reason.
It remains unclear at this point how applicants will be affected. Stakeholders will need to continue to wait for IRCC and ESDC to provide further information.
This Statistics Canada tool allows individuals to see how their current NOC corresponds with NOC 2021. The table below provides an indication of how the four NOC skill levels have been redistributed across the six new TEER groups.
| NOC 2016 V1.3 Distribution of Unit Groups by Skill Level | NOC 2021 V1.0 Distribution of Unit Groups by TEER | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| TEER Category 0 | 9% | ||
| Skill Level A | 28% | TEER Category 1 | 19% |
| Skill Level B | 42% | TEER Category 2 | 31% |
| Skill Level C | 24% | TEER Category 3 | 13% |
| Skill Level D | 6% | TEER Category 4 | 18% |
| TEER Category 5 | 9% |
Statistics Canada explains there are two major reasons why the skill type model is being replaced by the TEER system. First, the TEER system aims to provide more clarity on the level of education and work experience required to work in an occupation. Second, Statistics Canada believes the skill type model creates artificial categorizations between low- and high-skilled jobs. Implementing TEER will hopefully give stakeholders a better sense of the amount of skills required for each occupation.
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Looks like they will be re-evaluating the pending files again and then fitting them in the new NOC. Hence the delay.
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No. This applies to all files going through express entry including CEC and PNP. The delay has nothing to do with this.
Mr. K speculates that the PPR's and COPR's that's halted now may be released to the applicants in Q1 2022 that will boost their landing quota for 2022
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some cec's are sharing their immense concern (scared) after ircc said they won't be focusing on in-canada as the way ircc did in 2021 hehe
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This makes me happy. The era of easy ITA for low-score CECs is over.
i feel so, cause even ircc and humans in the minister's office with one brain cell is hitting them with the fact that world moved on and people aren't bothered about pandemic.
Can he speculate how to accurately relay 2nd hand information in the future?
