Yeah but think one that goes all through your PhD so not just an 8 month co-op. Basically your thesis is also the company's work; co-op isn't quite like that. Btw the pay is probably shit since they label you a student and a co-op. EU ones take you as a researcher = good pay.
To be honest , I tried really hard to find that one
, and I agree it's pretty rare in Canada, and if there is, it would most likely be under the scenario where-in the employee has already been working in the company and would like to take advantage of some personal-training benefit, which means the companies who are doing it would most likely do it because they're "helping" their employee rather than looking for actual researchers.You can also try New Zealand, if you can find your job available in the job market there.
US allows that and I know many moved to US from UG to PhD but they are required take masters level course work in the first year.
Yeah man if you're a grad student in Canada (or the US) you're basically piss poor; I've had many days with less food to eat than a normal person would need in a normal meal. And these co-ops aren't too different since you're basically cheap labor again. In EU, even the PhD stipend itself is really good; can't call it a stipend lol it's really a salary at this point. And the industry PhDs pay you really good compared to Canada.
Direct PhD is the standard in the US; most students skip the MSc if they're not interested in just the MSc specifically. Canada is different though; usually an MSc before a PhD in Canada.
Yes and the same is here for my country, the stipend is really poor. What I can't fathom though is why Canadian (and US) schools often require Ph.D students to do full-time? and they can't engage in any meaningful work to receive a salary while at it. This sort of dis-incentivizes people in the industry to get a Ph.D, especially if they're already earning a respectable salary. I mean if you look at U of T's offering of ~$15K/year stipend for PhD students, that's peanuts even to most low-skilled professionals.
I'm also visa-exempt, but my file hasn't been touched and not even recommendation.
Well... The universities think those PhD programs are already full-time. Like legally they're defined as full-time programs but I see what you mean. North American PhDs are built to use foreign students as literal slaves on wages as low as what you mentioned (mine was even lower btw lol). All the profs are rich, all the students (and postdocs really) are poor. Wonder why lol.
I wonder is it the same for the rest of the world? Here in the Philippines, you're allowed to go to work and do grad school at the same time, and yes even if you go for a Ph.D., most graduate school coursework is actually scheduled in the weekends because they know people work in the weekdays. As long as you'll meet the requirements of the degree (coursework and thesis) you can graduate, no biases. The only drawback of course, is that if you work and do grad school at the same time then you won't get the stipend, but you do get salary, and gain work experience simultaneously. Me personally I worked while doing my grad school, so after 2-years, I had an MS degree + 2 years work experience, which of course sounded better in your resume since some industries only look at work experience.
I think the simple reason is cost, if you're going to be self-funded, Canada is way way cheaper than the US.
EU is ok with working full-time while doing MSc/PhD. US/CA would be ok too only if you're self-funded. If your supervisor is paying you a stipend to hire you as a research assistant then you're usually not allowed to work elsewhere (except McDonald's lmao). The best deal you get is in EU because you're effectively working in industry while doing your PhD and since your employer employed you to exactly do that thesis, you're not doing x2 work for your job and your research; they're the same so that's less effort.
