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Do you think they will exceed the number of ITA's issued this year since they are very close to the limit and still 4 months are left? This never happened before so I think draws will stop outright.
Don't scared us otherwise I will tell MM to stop issuing COPR also to all AOR after 22-Nov-2020...and once you start issuing ITA same time you can issue COPR too.. :p :p
 
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Do you think they will exceed the number of ITA's issued this year since they are very close to the limit and still 4 months are left? This never happened before so I think draws will stop outright.
Some apps (probably about 15-20% for CEC) get rejected, some others are "complex" which take much longer to finalize. If IRCC invited just as many people in a year as their target said for that year, they'd never have hit targets because of the rejected apps and complex apps.

Second, since most apps take many months to finalize, IRCC can never stop inviting in a year regardless of how close they are to that year's target. They need to keep inviting to have a "headroom" for the following year. The ITAs which will be sent this year in and after Sept will mostly help meet targets of 2022, not 2021. Only a small portion of them will help 2021 as there are only 4 months left.
 

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I’m trying to be very logical about the situation (even though IRCC may not relate to this):

•IRCC is still not close to meeting the overall 401,000 target for this year; last I checked, they are barely halfway into it.

•Other streams like the family, refugees and some categories of the economic stream including PNP are having serious deficits and a very high probability of not being met this year

• IRCC may decide not to follow the exact specific targets of each streams religiously and may be open to making up for deficits of some categories with surplus from another category. For example they plan to take in 20,000 Afghans on humanitarian grounds (when the humanitarian target for this year is actually 5,500)

•IRCC could expand the express entry intake for this year to cover ground for the target deficits of other streams. For example they might decide to land more federal high skilled workers (CEC + FSW + FST) this year than originally planned.

• It’s not feasible for IRCC to depend on CEC invites any time from September 29 to meet this year’s target because most would land next year at best. Why go through that hassle when they can easy land at least 30,000 FSW-O and PNP-O whose applications are finalized or close to being approved or even reissue COPRs to those that have expired COPRS when the border reopens?
 

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Some apps (probably about 15-20% for CEC) get rejected, some others are "complex" which take much longer to finalize. If IRCC invited just as many people in a year as their target said for that year, they'd never have hit targets because of the rejected apps and complex apps.

Second, since most apps take many months to finalize, IRCC can never stop inviting in a year regardless of how close they are to that year's target. They need to keep inviting to have a "headroom" for the following year. The ITAs which will be sent this year in and after Sept will mostly help meet targets of 2022, not 2021. Only a small portion of them will help 2021 as there are only 4 months left.
This has been the case since express entry started, I am just curious if they will invite way over their normal yearly total invitations that have given in the past years. Maybe they will keep reducing number of ITA's every month, 1500 invitations on September 1st incoming :D
 

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This has been the case since express entry started, I am just curious if they will invite way over their normal yearly total invitations that have given in the past years. Maybe they will keep reducing number of ITA's every month, 1500 invitations on September 1st incoming :D
I will repeat one more time. ITAs DOES NOT EQUAL to the quota set by Canadian Government :) specially now, during travel restrictions etc.
 

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This has been the case since express entry started, I am just curious if they will invite way over their normal yearly total invitations that have given in the past years. Maybe they will keep reducing number of ITA's every month, 1500 invitations on September 1st incoming :D
If they keep reducing ITAs in September through December, how will they meet 2022’s target?
 
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This has been the case since express entry started, I am just curious if they will invite way over their normal yearly total invitations that have given in the past years. Maybe they will keep reducing number of ITA's every month, 1500 invitations on September 1st incoming :D
Eh... Way over? Not sure, I doubt it because 2022 looks clear. Covid will be treated as flu in 2022 so I don't see why IRCC should struggle processing apps kinda normally in 2022. But they do need to invite about 30-40 thousand FSWs before 2022 so they can meet their increased targets in 2022.

I still think we wouldn't ever see CEC draws (or all program draws) of less than 3000 invites. To me, Sept 1 is either 5000 all program or 3000 CEC.
 
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Eh... Way over? Not sure, I doubt it because 2022 looks clear. Covid will be treated as flu in 2022 so I don't see why IRCC should struggle processing apps kinda normally in 2022. But they do need to invite about 30-40 thousands FSWs before 2022 so they can meet their increased targets in 2022.

I still think we wouldn't ever see CEC draws (or all program draws) of less than 3000 invites. To me, Sept 1 is either 5000 all program or 3000 CEC.
1st September CEC :D
 

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Another 27k draw with CEC cutoff of -1.
Lmao. IRCC actually have learnt from that mistake and they recently care alot about CRS scores; that’s why the CEC invites are dropping

Why have they not invited FSW yet? I don’t know; maybe border-related or politically inclined. No idea but FSW needs to happen by October latest if they plan to meet next year’s economic target with worthy applicants
 
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