July 2020 - Citizenship application

[alexander_Schwartz]

You posted almost exactly the same response else where. You either a bot or hired to speak robotically without any broad considerations to humans who have left their countries, parents, siblings and relatives to come and live in Canada by sacrificing everything. Canada didn't open itself for us because of the goodness of its heart. Canada needs us. Without immigrants this country will be transformed to a 3rd world country in 10 years. I worked in a tech company where 95% of the work force were immigrants. But what Canada expects from us is to be submissive slaves who cannot speak or object on anything. If you are truly an immigrant with a PR status, then you probably don't know how difficult it is to settle in Canada as an immigrant. Truth be told, if other countries gave citizenships as easy as Canada, you wouldn't see many immigrants in Canada. The job market in Canada is very small and stagnant. Even Canadians leave Canada to the US and Europe. To live in Canada as a skilled worker immigrant (especially immigrants of color), you have to take low skilled jobs like stacking shelves in stores or drive Uber. Canada's best bet is to settle new immigrants with decent jobs to stay. Otherwise, they will leave. But even then it's not a total loss. They will most likely consider getting back to Canada and settle once they have the chance. You cannot make Canada home to highly skilled workers by offering them low skilled jobs, and by expecting them to be submissive slaves with shut mouths.

I posted a similar response to a similar comment on the 2021 PR Card renewal application forum. I am most certainly not a bot and I am an immigrant myself and do know the struggles of moving to another country. However, unless you are a refugee, who was forced out of their country, it was your decision to move to Canada knowing full well that you would be leaving behind friends and family. You also seem to have a narrow view of what it means to be an immigrant as you seem to think all skilled immigrants work menial jobs with little prospect for themselves or future generations. Obviously the job market in Canada is smaller than that of the United States when Canada has 36 million people and the United States is ten times bigger at 360 million people or the EU with 446 million people + the UK with 65 million people so you are comparing apples to oranges.

 

[alexander_Schwartz]

If you are so triggered by immigrants demanding better services, maybe you should be on Stormfront or some other similar forum, just saying.

I am not "triggered" by people demanding better services. I am simply saying the way it was done by constant whinging gives fodder to the very people you think I should be part of to say no to immigration.

 

[fr72]

I am not "triggered" by people demanding better services. I am simply saying the way it was done by constant whinging gives fodder to the very people you think I should be part of to say no to immigration.

Telling people to get out of Canada if they criticize one small aspect makes you an ideal stormfront member.

 

[alexander_Schwartz]

Telling people to get out of Canada if they criticize one small aspect makes you an ideal stormfront member.

I never told people to get out of Canada if they criticize one small aspect. Simply read my comment and you will see I never once said to get out. This was taken out of context. I am certainly not anti-immigration nor telling people not to criticize it was the way it was done that I had a problem with. Painting someone as a Neo-Nazi for not liking how someone said something is really low and says a lot about your character as a person.

 

[fr72]

I never told people to get out of Canada if they criticize one small aspect. Simply read my comment and you will see I never once said to get out. This was taken out of context. I am certainly not anti-immigration nor telling people not to criticize it was the way it was done that I had a problem with. Painting someone as a Neo-Nazi for not liking how someone said something is really low and says a lot about your character as a person.

You made up your mind about the other person, and similarly, I made up my mind about you. Deal with it.

 

[Canadiann2020]

You posted almost exactly the same response else where. You either a bot or hired to speak robotically without any broad considerations to humans who have left their countries, parents, siblings and relatives to come and live in Canada by sacrificing everything. Canada didn't open itself for us because of the goodness of its heart. Canada needs us. Without immigrants this country will be transformed to a 3rd world country in 10 years. I worked in a tech company where 95% of the work force were immigrants. But what Canada expects from us is to be submissive slaves who cannot speak or object on anything. If you are truly an immigrant with a PR status, then you probably don't know how difficult it is to settle in Canada as an immigrant. Truth be told, if other countries gave citizenships as easy as Canada, you wouldn't see many immigrants in Canada. The job market in Canada is very small and stagnant. Even Canadians leave Canada to the US and Europe. To live in Canada as a skilled worker immigrant (especially immigrants of color), you have to take low skilled jobs like stacking shelves in stores or drive Uber. Canada's best bet is to settle new immigrants with decent jobs to stay. Otherwise, they will leave. But even then it's not a total loss. They will most likely consider getting back to Canada and settle once they have the chance. You cannot make Canada home to highly skilled workers by offering them low skilled jobs, and by expecting them to be submissive slaves with shut mouths.

In my opinion, I feel you got lot of problems with Canada and its considerably small job market.I feel there are a lot of other countries with better job opportunities why don't you consider moving where you think the grass is more green? You moved to Canada bcoz it was easy and within your reach.. Prove yourself and you will find opportunities almost anywhere you go. Just Stop whining buddy!

 

[fr72]

In my opinion, I feel you got lot of problems with Canada and its considerably small job market.I feel there are a lot of other countries with better job opportunities why don't you consider moving where you think the grass is more green? You moved to Canada bcoz it was easy and within your reach.. Prove yourself and you will find opportunities almost anywhere you go. Just Stop whining buddy!

I think he/she will leave after getting the passport. I see no issues with that

 

[Canadiann2020]

I think he/she will leave after getting the passport. I see no issues with that

There is nothing wrong about it.. it's a free country but untill then I think that individual should Stop crying and talking -ve to others who see Canada as there home and are well settled. I'm sure that individual will still cry wherever he/she moves.

 

[fr72]

There is nothing wrong about it.. it's a free country but untill then I think that individual should Stop crying and talking -ve to others who see Canada as there home and are well settled. I'm sure that individual will still cry wherever he/she moves.

Why 'stop crying and talking' until then? Are charter rights about free expression only for citizens?

 

[momo1991]

I think the problem is that most of us when we immigrate see Canada as the perfect world to move to. Bureaucratic delays although minor does leave a sour taste and is reminiscent of the places where we immigrated from. I see protesting and complaining about these issues as patriotic and only way to get to improvement on these matters. A lot of people end up leaving because not everyone will be able to get the opportunities/life they want out of this place. It isn't perfect and it isn't for everybody but not a bad place overall to live your life.

 

[Canadiann2020]

Why 'stop crying and talking' until then? Are charter rights about free expression only for citizens?

I feel these people should use proper channels to navigate there frustrations so they are heard by the right people who have powers to make some change. Use Twitter tag Immigration minister, contact IRCC, give interviews to Canadian news channels etc not just keep whining over here on Canada visa and similar websites it no use. Choice is yours.

 

[fr72]

I feel these people should use proper channels to navigate there frustrations so they are heard by the right people who have powers to make some change. Use Twitter tag Immigration minister, contact IRCC, give interviews to Canadian news channels etc not just keep whining over here on Canada visa and similar websites it no use. Choice is yours.

Well now I am confused. A lot of pro IRCC and anti-complainer people here tell me that IRCC agents constantly read these forums, get angry about the complaints and retaliate on applicants. Which is it?

I agree the choice is theirs.

 

[Canadiann2020]

Well now I am confused. A lot of pro IRCC and anti-complainer people here tell me that IRCC agents constantly read these forums, get angry about the complaints and retaliate on applicants. Which is it?

I agree the choice is theirs.

Nobody can answer that except IRCC agents and it depends on every individual. I'm just saying use proper channels... Arguing with other members with your own opinions won't help.

 

[fr72]

Nobody can answer that except IRCC agents and it depends on every individual. I'm just saying use proper channels... Arguing with other members with your own opinions won't help.

I agree about using proper channels. But no harm writing here too. It encourages more people to use proper channels. Writing here makes people aware that unless they make noise, they are in for a long long wait.

 

[stalker]

Hello All,

I am done with the test and waiting for oath invitation. What happens if I change my province now?