HKVO advice needed
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Dont worry you'll be driving by Trudeau's place in your new Beamer soon enough...
Ok your plates prob wont say
ILUVHKVO maybe IH8HKVO
Ok your plates prob wont say
ILUVHKVO maybe IH8HKVO
Question. Your opinion. Do you think had I sent in only emails from me to realtors and their replies looking at apartments. Shown emails between pet companies, letters resignation and saying I was first month staying at my mothers and showing transfer of funds they would have passed us?
just trying to cheer you up...they want a marriage license in addition to the marriage certificate?
Its hard to say...anybody's guess is as good as any. Everybody would react differently to this kind of adr.
Somebody would just sent a couple emails to a realtor, somebody else rent a crib in Canada, and somebody like me would just fly back and leave no doubt in their minds....its a personal decision. I do think that with what you are going with you have almost no chance of failure, I would be extremely shocked if they PFL'd you. I mean really really shocked and disappointed.
that's really abusive of them...but what can we do but comply....resistance is futile.
Thats the thing throughout this whole process one hundred percent honesty. So in my opinion THEIR JUDGEMENT GUESSES on relationships are way off. Tell me why would I apply to immigrate after five years now home. I have savings, born in the county, go to all the work of applying and ,yah Im going to stay here. This intent to immigrate thing is just an action used to fail people who basically are qualified. Excuse to take the 1100 dollars.Cause to be honest, Im actually expecting them to come back with pfl or adr again.
In another thread it's made clear that you need to submit the marriage certificate (license is a clear error in terminology from the email and that is their fault). And you hadn't submitted it before - you're lucky your application wasn't returned as lacking a key document. This is more a case of your original error in not checking carefully when you originally submitted what was needed.
As for your wife having to go to her home city to get it notarized - that's not a Canadian requirement, but Chinese regulations. (I'm a bit surprised the notaries can't do a certified translation in your current city of residence, but stranger things exist).
I think I said it earlier, maybe it got deleted, but they always assume the worst about outland applicants.
If the sponsor resides in Canada, then the applicant MUST be wanting to scam Canada into getting in the country.
If the sponsor resides outside Canada, then the applicant MUST be just wanting to get a Canadian passport for ease of world travel, with no intent of settling in Canada.
IRCC considers us scammers and fraudsters, and the onus is on US to prove otherwise. Its not a democratic procedure - we are guilty until we prove ourselves innocent.
Cant win. Anyone who gets refused and applies again , wow. They mustjust love giving money away. I know this game she gets refused cause INTENT ISNT THERE IN THEIR MINDS TO LEAVE. BYE 1100, idiot will go home reapply and then OH WE WILL GET HIM THIS TIME HE DIDNT SHOW ENOUGH PROOF OF COMMUNICATION WHILE WAITING FOR HER TO GET APPROVED ON SECOND APP. Bye bye 2200. HMM do you think this idiot will pay again.
Ya pretty much lolololol
Thing is tho, and I mentioned it before, there is 1 thing that stops this madness, is Appealing VO decision.
So say you flew back right now and say they refused you nonetheless...you would have 30 days to file an appeal and then you'd have an ADR hearing (Alternative Dispute Resolution) cuz they know they have NO case against you and they will just let you win and thing will go back to HKVO and your wife gets PPR.
Its just IRCC tactic to see how far you will go...how badly you want it...of course they dont mind if ppl will reapply cuz they dont know how to appeal thinking a 2nd time around they will get an approval.
You apparently have not paid attention to news either in Canada or China for the last 30 or so years. And including quite recently. Prior to HK transfer, the phrase (if I remember correctly) 'three legged stool' was pretty well known - referring to wealthy families establishing business/residential ties in mainland China (to make real money and bureaucratic ties), HK (to have access to West/capital markets), and Canada/USA for protection/safety/savings should HK transfer go 'bad' (and the strategy was often to send spouses/children to Canada to establish the PR/citizenship base).
There are PLENTY of cases of Chinese/HK families attempting to establish residence in Canada as a 'backup' with no intention of actually residing - as a backup of sorts. (And lots of outright fraudulent cases - some quite high profile - up to and including fake records to show residence and get citizenship). It has also been a periodic political issue in Canada - that some PRs, including spousal, use Canadian PR status as a convenience factor, or intentionally stay in Canada only long enough to get citizenship and then leave (and then, by so-called 'chain' sponsorship, try to sponsor spouse to get PR status with no intention of moving to or residing in Canada).
Although this doesn't apply just to China (some other countries periodically mentioned), it has been a consistent issue with respect to China.
So you believe YOU are the honest applicant being treated unfairly - but if you look skeptically at your own file, you'd see all you really provided was emotional claims to want to return, and with close to zero current ties to Canada (not having visited in five years, no bank account, nothing). Again, looked at skeptically - you actually perfectly fit the profile of someone who just wants PR status for spouse for travel convenience and maybe to get passport down the road. (That's not a criticism or questioning your bona fides - your life is what it is, and that's fine - but you fit a profile and don't even know it).
Again, you're this upset and YOU HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN REFUSED. Geez, they just asked you for some additional documents.
And as far as I can tell from what you've written, your relationship has not been subject to any special scrutiny - they were even a bit lenient about the fact that you didn't submit marriage certificate. If they wanted to ding you just for money, they could have refused you right away on basis you're not married (because you didn't provide PROOF OF MARRIAGE).