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Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship 2019

Ramona2019

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Apr 26, 2019
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Dear all,

Happy to announce that our application package was sent by Xpresspost to CIC today.

· We had started gathering data for all forms and supporting materials as soon as the new forms were uploaded.

· I had a business trip back home in India in mid-April (prior to invite) and was able to get all wet signatures on all forms as well as all notarized supporting documents prior to the invite.

· Dates in all forms are filled by hand and are dt April 30th. Please note all forms can be validated / saved printed etc. without the dates.

· I received my invitation on April 24, 2019 15:37 EST

· We have a pretty straightforward case (I think) – I am sponsoring my parents, my spouse is NOT a co-signer, we have one child and the Principal Applicant is my Father and his spouse (my mum) is the dependant. My bother (+30 years) has his own family, is settled in Australia, and not considered a dependant. Income is thankfully well above the required limit for all 3 years. I provided SIN so didn’t fill 5748.

· No staples on any form/ supporting document. Wet signatures in Blue (no such requirement, but things stand-out)


We arranged the package as follows


· Invite Letter

· Fee Confirmation (paid biometric fee upfront)

· Document Checklist


Sponsor Forms


· BarCode IMM1344

· Form1344 (Wet signatures)

· IMM5768 with SIN. In item 14 Gross Income I provided both incomes Gross Income as well as NOA / Line 150. This was filled by hand. By definition, Gross Income is total income before benefits and not NOA / Line 150. I have a Professional Corporation so my Gross Income and line 150 is significantly different. Both numbers for each year are well above the requirement.


Principal Applicant Froms


· BarCode IMM0008

· Form IMM008 (Wet Signature)

· IMM5669 – Principal Applicant with full details of Travel corresponding to all stamped pages of current and Old passport were included / Full details of Education, Professional Affiliations & Employment History (Wet Signature)

· IMM5669 – Dependant Spouse With full details of Travel corresponding to all stamped pages of current and Old passport were included / Full details of Education, Professional Affiliations & Employment History (Homemaker) (Wet Signature)

· IMM5406 – Principal Applicant with names (only) in English & Devanagri (typed) & Wet Signatures

· IMM5406 – Dependant Spouse with names (only) in English & Devanagri (typed) & Wet Signatures

· IMM5476 – Use of Representative with Wet Signatures. My parents designated me as the representative.


Supporting Documents(All documents were in English, but I got them notarized anyways.)


· Copy of Canadian Passport of Sponsor

· Birth Certificate of Sponsor

· Current passport – Principal Applicant (All pages, including pages with Stamps, also helps to prove Travel History and corresponding with IMM5669)

· Current passport – Dependant Spouse (All pages, including pages with Stamps, also helps to prove Travel History and corresponding with IMM5669)

· Original Marriage Certificate

· Affidavit Confirming Marriage (Original Marriage certificate had a small typo in my Mom’s last name - one alphabet was “e” instead of “a”. We decided not to take any chances)

· 2 Passport Photos each for Principal Applicant / Dependant Spouse. Sizes etc as per Photo guidance, with name/address of Photo Studio in India stamped, Date Photo Taken + Name of Person & Date of Birth.


Additional Supporting Documents


All documents were in English, but I got then notarized anyways. These are not required, but we included to provide proof of everything. I noticed that from previous years tracking / forum discussions sometimes the Case Officer asks for additional documents such as proof of travel / educational certificates / birth certificates / proof of income etc. which causes unnecessary delay. We decided to include them upfront.



· Proof of Sponsors Gross Income (this number is much higher than my NOA / 150)


· 2019- Till Date – Letter from CA/HR confirming income till date (April 30, 2019 which dorresponds to date of wet signatures on all forms)

· 2018 FY - T5013

· 2017 FY - T5013

· 2016 FY - T5013

· 2015 FY - T5013


· Birth Certificates – Principal Applicant & Dependant Spouse (Not required, but reconfirming Names & authenticity)

· Old passport(s) Pages – Principal Applicant & Dependant Spouse (All pages, including pages with Stamps, also helps to prove Travel History and corresponding with IMM5669)

· Aadhar Card – Front & Back Principal Applicant & Dependant Spouse (Proof of National Identity Document)

· Educational Certificates - Principal Applicant (For Universities Only) (Corresponding to Proof of Education in IMM 5669)

· Professional Memberships – Principal Applicant (Corresponding to Professional Affiliations in IMM 5669)

· Educational Certificates – Dependant Spouse (For Universities Only) (Corresponding to Proof of Education in IMM 5669)

· Proof of Principal Applicant’s Professional Practice in India (Corresponding to Proof of Employment for past 10 years in IMM 5669)

o Resume

o Service Tax Registration Certificate

o GST Registration Certificate

o Tax Statements – Last 10 years (2018-2008 FY) (1-page summary for each year)

IMM5669 does not ask for travel history, how come you mentioned it and where in this form?
 

Priyankkarkar

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Apr 11, 2016
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Please Help me regarding this query:

Me and my wife are applying for both of our parent's sponsorship application under PGP 2019 (Family of 6). We are signing each other's applications as co-signers. Do we mention this current undertaking (2019 applications) in this form as undertaking not yet in effect?

In other words do I mention(count) my wife's parents (whom I am co-signing at the same time sponsoring my parents) in question no 3 B-iv in this form?

Thank you in advance for your help.
 
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jayeshaminnew

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Apr 25, 2014
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
08-05-2014
Nomination.....
18-08-2014
Med's Request
06-11-2014
Med's Done....
19-11-2014
Passport Req..
26-02-2015
VISA ISSUED...
05-03-2015
LANDED..........
31-03-2015
Hello, on form IMM5768E Question 14 and 17, for Employment History it ask about Family Size, f I have Co-signer we both will have same family Size. Can anyone confirm?
 

ninny

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Jan 17, 2014
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Hello, on form IMM5768E Question 14 and 17, for Employment History it ask about Family Size, f I have Co-signer we both will have same family Size. Can anyone confirm?
I also need info on this form and these questions. I have read previous queries on this and there seems to be different opinions. For the family size on questions 14 & 17 do we include the parents that we are sponsoring or do we just put in the present family size e.g myself, my co signer/spouse and our son ..3 people or 5
 

kimat

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Apr 16, 2010
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Hi Guys,

I'm in canada and I'm sponsoring my parents,
I am their dependent so I guess I will need to fill the IMM 5669 (background) and the IMM5406 (additional family information), right?
A dependent is someone who is financially dependent upon someone or 22 years and less for immigration purposes.

If the OP is financially dependent upon his/her parents, how can he/she be a sponsor?

My guess is that the OP is confusing the word dependent with offspring. Let him/her clarify first.
 
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zeiesfirdaus

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Jan 28, 2019
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IMM5669 does not ask for travel history, how come you mentioned it and where in this form?
IMM5669 Box 6 Personal History.
Read the description. Clearly says "Travelling" amongst a bunch of things...(with two ll's that too; how I love Queen's English :)).

Everyone, please READ the guide and forms carefully. PLEASE. All members in this forum are happy to help where they can; but the onus of completing your application so that it does not get rejected is on YOU. Remember, you are doing this for your parents.

I have flashbacks of how my father, read, reread, checked, double checked and then just for kicks, checked my University application form again (a breeze as compared to this) back in the day. God, just teared up thinking of that just now...
 

SharleenALEX

Star Member
Feb 8, 2017
67
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Category........
NOC Code......
4011
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12102016
AOR Received.
13012017
A dependent is someone who is financially dependent upon someone or 22 years and less for immigration purposes.

If the OP is financially dependent upon his/her parents, how can he/she be a sponsor?

My guess is that the OP is confusing the word dependent with offspring. Let him/her clarify first.

Here is from the application guide
Schedule A – Background/Declaration (IMM 5669)
"This form must be completed by:

  • you, the principal applicant;
  • your spouse or common-law partner (whether accompanying you to Canada or not), and
  • your dependent children aged 18 years or older (whether accompanying you to Canada or not)."

so, I'm sponsoring my parents, but I am also their dependent, I don't know if I need to fill IMM 5669

I'm guessing not, because in the form it says

"The principal applicant, his or her spouse or common-law partner, if applicable, and all dependent children aged 18 years or older listed in the application for permanent residence must complete their own copy of the form"

I'm already a PR, so I think I don't need to fill imm 5669
 

SharleenALEX

Star Member
Feb 8, 2017
67
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Category........
NOC Code......
4011
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12102016
AOR Received.
13012017
imm 5406 is more confusing
in the application guide, it says

"Additional Family Information (IMM 5406)
This form must be completed by:

  • You, as the principal applicant,
  • Your spouse or common-law partner (whether accompanying you to Canada or not), and
  • Your dependent children aged 18 or over (whether accompanying you to Canada or not). "

in the form itself, it says
"the principal applicant, their spouse----, and all dependent children 18 years of age or older must complete their own copy of this form"
so technically I am a dependent of my parents, and I need to fill IMM 5406
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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No I am fine. Asking for the OP of the question. @canuck78 has been scolding me for telling people who dont meet requirements to apply anyway. Because it wastes the IRCC time and costs thousands of dollars for them to process and then reject.
Yes people who don’t meet the income requirements for 2016, 2017 and 2018 shouldn’t have applied in the first place and shouldn’t be encouraged to take a chance especially when they are thousands of dollars off LICO. Sure many share my opinion.
 

canuck78

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if someone may not meet the income requirement in year 2019, they need to find way to provide enough income, whiceverway needed.
Self employed, contract...etc. Take extra jobs, work on the weekend, increase hours...etc.
Unfortunately this was an attempt to taunt me after I asked @nayr69sg to stop encouraging people who don’t meet the LICO for 2016/2017/2018 from continuing with their application. Their view is why not take a chance and just lose the application money where as I view it as a waste of taxpayer dollars and a delay for a real applicant.
 
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