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OINP - EE - Human Capital Priorities Stream - Comprehensive Guide

HADDY

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I am only expecting ..this is purely an opinion .. take for example these errors from the Forum threads :
1)Ticking you have Canadian Education ,while you do not ,hence not being prompted to enter you ECA serial ,dates and details
2)Not @All/ partially filling Activities Tab (that is not work related)
3)Very weak/No real POF proof
4)Work experience letter ,not including R&R or not stamped
5)Birth Certificates not fully translated
6)Scanning only few pages from Passports


In normal cases no one would blame an officer for rejecting such applications ,yes ...till now they are asking people nicely as they were just starting the race and have plenty of time and quota ahead ,but we duuno till when they will do that and how they will act if they had time limitations VS # of pending applications ,which is more stressful as we approach end of the year and associated quota .


There are 2 approaches in this decisive period ..either stick with current applications till last drop of sweat or give others a chance of submitting a better applications in terms of completeness and quality .

Again Just an opinion ...I am not forcing a probability/percentage on any of the approaches though !
there's no plenty time and quota and the process didn't just start.
They've given out more than half of the nomination quota for 2017 and they are not just being nice, that is their processing procedures and its fair enough.
 

amabomaa

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Can anyone kindly respond to my questions below:

@HADDY @lino82 @BillHyatt @andieangel anyone pls?

For those of you who applied to OINP - HCP Stream before it was put on hold, did you submit the last 6 months payslips corresponding to each employment you've had? Or did you submit only the first and last payslips as indicated in the OINP application guide.

Again, what number of work experience years do you need to apply for OINP - HCP Stream?

I'm asking these because i started working in 2007 till now and i need to know if it's paramount that i submit payslips/ work reference letters/employment contracts from 2007 to date.

I received NOI from Ontario and in the process of gathering all my documents, the stream was paused.

Holding my breath till it's re-opened and i wish everyone the very best!

Cheers!
 

Mohdather

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Jul 1, 2017
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Excellent post. I am at the "Awaiting Information" status on the OINP FSW process
They requested for the electronic copy of WES report and additional information on the number of hours worked in the prg that I worked earlier. I submitted both of them today. Hopefully I get nominated soon. Fingers crossed. Good luck to you all!
When did they request u. Is it today? Ya once they received all the documents ur status will soon changed. Good luck.
 

Anjanirai

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NOC Code......
2173
Nomination.....
15-09-2017
Can anyone kindly respond to my questions below:

@HADDY @lino82 @BillHyatt @andieangel anyone pls?

For those of you who applied to OINP - HCP Stream before it was put on hold, did you submit the last 6 months payslips corresponding to each employment you've had? Or did you submit only the first and last payslips as indicated in the OINP application guide.

Again, what number of work experience years do you need to apply for OINP - HCP Stream?

I'm asking these because i started working in 2007 till now and i need to know if it's paramount that i submit payslips/ work reference letters/employment contracts from 2007 to date.

I received NOI from Ontario and in the process of gathering all my documents, the stream was paused.

Holding my breath till it's re-opened and i wish everyone the very best!

Cheers!
You need to submit job reference letters as well as your offer letters (in any form) from all your previous as well as current organization. Also, as far as pay slips are concerned, submit all that you have or what you can get. If you have first and last ones, that will be great as per the guideline. If you don't have pay slips from them, you need to submit Bank statements of the bank where you salary got credited. Alternatively, you can ask your current/previous employers to mention your salary in your job reference letter if they could. All the best!!
 
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MEB

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there's no plenty time and quota and the process didn't just start.
They've given out more than half of the nomination quota for 2017 and they are not just being nice, that is their processing procedures and its fair enough.
Last year bro...they were rejecting applications for a single missing passport page....and among the empty portion of the passport pages too!!!
So ...for the reasons I mentioned before ...I think they can reject the application for such reasons mentioned without any objection ability ...so lets pray they continue requesting for what places our applications on the correct path rather then getting it out of such path...
 
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Vishal122

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Can anyone kindly respond to my questions below:

@HADDY @lino82 @BillHyatt @andieangel anyone pls?

For those of you who applied to OINP - HCP Stream before it was put on hold, did you submit the last 6 months payslips corresponding to each employment you've had? Or did you submit only the first and last payslips as indicated in the OINP application guide.

Again, what number of work experience years do you need to apply for OINP - HCP Stream?

I'm asking these because i started working in 2007 till now and i need to know if it's paramount that i submit payslips/ work reference letters/employment contracts from 2007 to date.

I received NOI from Ontario and in the process of gathering all my documents, the stream was paused.

Holding my breath till it's re-opened and i wish everyone the very best!

Cheers!
My friend - even I started in 2007 , I took ref letter from my 4 ex companies . Then I asked them pay slips , which they didn't had , so I used the emails written to them some confirmed thru email , others didn't bother to reply back . I used the ref letters and appointment letters including the email copies and submitted everything on 21st July . July 26 my status changed from submitted to assessment ...now just waiting ....
 
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MEB

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@ fallen heros.( i dont like that term) however you need to bear at the back of your mind that applications are not outrightly rejected. there is the procedural fairness stage...except the applicant is totally inelligible. And we've seen cases where oinp request for additional documentation. i believe the process is totally fair.

You should be happy that you got an ADR within 2 weeks. have u forgotten that the processing time has greatly improved? some people's oinp processing took between 6- 8 months before. I also submitted since june and it took almost a month before my status changed. i had a crs of over 400

For those that had problem due to oinp systems downtime, they would be given opportunity to upload their document if these candidate reached out to them by emails at the appropriate time. we have a testimony of someone who contacted them and he was assisted.

You can only speak for urself as regards the mistakes. oinp saw an upsurge of applications but a lot of these ict people would have been prepared, remember most of them were on the lookout for PNP's. Let us just be grateful fir this opportunity and hope for the best....we are just making wild guesses as regards predicting the timelines. i wish you the best with your application.
First of all ," Fallen heros" in our culture means a hero who tried his best and fought bravely and did not achieve the goal for circumstances out of his hands ...nothing more is meant by the expression ..

Now ...Brother who spoke about :
1)That what I am saying are facts ? I clearly mentioned @ the beginning its my merely personal opinion regarding the approach options ,I even mentioned before I am not favoring one approach on the account of the other ,I started these trails of replies just to highlight that not all ICT people are given preference "in processing " ...there are other hidden factors

2)Who said I am not grateful ? Totally the opposite and on the contrary I am trying to explain the logic "incase" and- just "incase"- they wanted to reject applications for "certain" missing information ..@ the end of the day if they always request for every single missing detail and for their entire life time span ,then why there have been "Application rejected/returned " status in the past? if till now.. we didn't have a clear associated case... that does not mean it does not exist as a status in general ...


Good luck with ur application bro...
 
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HADDY

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Can anyone kindly respond to my questions below:

@HADDY @lino82 @BillHyatt @andieangel anyone pls?

For those of you who applied to OINP - HCP Stream before it was put on hold, did you submit the last 6 months payslips corresponding to each employment you've had? Or did you submit only the first and last payslips as indicated in the OINP application guide.

Again, what number of work experience years do you need to apply for OINP - HCP Stream?

I'm asking these because i started working in 2007 till now and i need to know if it's paramount that i submit payslips/ work reference letters/employment contracts from 2007 to date.

I received NOI from Ontario and in the process of gathering all my documents, the stream was paused.

Holding my breath till it's re-opened and i wish everyone the very best!

Cheers!
U need a min of one year work exp to be elligible for EE, oinp inclusive.
You get min s ore for work exp with a yr and with 3 yrs work exp u can get the max score for work exp.

In my case I had my payslips. U can provide ur bankstatements or letters from employers confirming ur sal also.

It's mandatory that u provide all work reference letters/employment contracts from 2007 to date.

I only provided my employment letters and ref letters. I believe my employment letter served same purpose as my contract letters.

I hope this helps...
 

HADDY

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First of all ," Fallen heros" in our culture means they are a hero who tried their best and fought bravely and did not achieve their goal for circumstances out f their hands ...nothing more is meant by the expression ..

Now ...Brother who spoke about :
1)That what I am saying are facts ? I clearly mentioned @ the beginning its my merely personal opinion regarding the approach options ,I even mentioned before I am not favoring one approach on the account of the other ,I ma started these trails of replies just to highlight that not all ICT people are given preference "in processing " ...there are other hidden factors

2)Who said I am not grateful ? Totally the opposite and on the contrary I am trying to explain the logic "incase" and- just "incase"- they wanted to reject applications for "certain" missing information ..@ the end of the day if they always request for every single missing detail and for their entire life time span ,then why there have been "Application rejected/returned " status in the past? if till now.. we didn't have a clear associated case... that does not mean it does not exist as a status in general ...


Good luck with ur application bro...
I'm not saying u arnt grateful, I mean u should appreciate the improved processing times... 2 weeks isn't too bad as compared to what was obtainable before...

And yes there would be rejected applications If there are one too many mistakes or candidate is not able to provide adequate and convincing doc to support their applications.(in summary,ineligible candidates will be denied as I previously stated)
 

HADDY

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Last year bro...they were rejecting applications for a single missing passport page....and among the empty portion of the passport pages too!!!
So ...for the reasons I mentioned before ...I think they can reject the application for such reasons mentioned without any objection ability ...so lets pray they continue requesting for what places our applications on the correct path rather then getting it out of such path...
See my friend, in all of these we can avoid mistakes if all applicants read through the guidelines properly.
Let's not believe we know all the requirement but read through as required by oinp.
 

MEB

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I'm not saying u arnt grateful, I mean u should appreciate the improved processing times... 2 weeks isn't too bad as compared to what was obtainable before...

And yes there would be rejected applications If there are one too many mistakes or candidate is not able to provide adequate and convincing doc to support their applications.(in summary,ineligible candidates will be denied as I previously stated)
Man I submitted on the 13th ....I got ADR after 2 weeks yes... then my application remained in the submitted stage since then and till today even though i updated them with the requirement with 30 mins ...so i was saying may be ICT were given an initial preference by the below 400 CRS thing ...which was great for us and not expected ... of course this is a fact....but in processing I do not see a privilege from many evidences in the forum including myself being in submitted stage for more than 3 weeks ...that is just my opinion

Now regarding rejection ,again last year they were rejecting because of one empty page @ the end of the passport which is just one of 20 empty last pages ,I read such posts before ...so what about not filling complete tabs or not translating documents ...hence i am explaining that they may return to this style.... I am not saying they would or they should... I am simply saying they "may "...
 
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MEB

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Man
See my friend, in all of these we can avoid mistakes if all applicants read through the guidelines properly.
Let's not believe we know all the requirement but read through as required by oinp.
Who said we cannot do it correctly ... I am just explaining that their style last year was different from this year till now in terms of Rejecting VS asking for additional documents ...even now they are not asking people for missing passport pages as far as I know ..although its their right as its mentioned clearly...Yet the style till now is simply avoiding rejection ..

I am just highlighting there are different approaches -regardless on the pure guidelines and what they are authorized to do based on it -and they may switch between the styles depending on many factors starting with officer in charge and ending with overall factors affecting the intake load.
 

HADDY

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Man I submitted on the 13th ....I got ADR after 2 weeks yes... then my application remained in the submitted stage since then and till today even though i updated them with the requirement with 30 mins ...so i was saying may be ICT were given an initial preference by teh belwo 400 CRS thing ...which was great for us and not expected ... of course this is a fact....but in processing I do not see a privilege from many evidences in teh forum including myself being in submitted stage for more than 3 weeks ...that is just my opinion

Now regarding rejection ,again last year they were rejecting because of one empty page @ the end of the passport which is just one of 20 empty last pages ,i read such posts before ...so what about not filling complete tabs or not translating documents ...hence i am explaining that they may return to this style.... I am not saying they would or they should... I am simply saying they "may "...
they clearly stated in the guide that cases as u mentioned could result in delay of their processing or rejection. i reemphasize that the problem is not reading instructions as there are specific instructions for each sections.(for passports it says scan all pages both empty and stamped...)

Applications with translations that are not complete and certified or notarized are considered incomplete and will not be processed.
Translations that are completed by the applicant, the applicant’s representative, or other individuals with personal ties to the applicant are not acceptable in any case even if these individuals are certified translators.(its clearly stated on the guide) Lets read!!!

Also, i want you to know that some ICT got nominations within a week on this forum. processing time is case specific... but on the average its not so bad, we are just impatient which is very normal...
 
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MEB

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they clearly stated in the guide that cases as u mentioned could result in delay of their processing or rejection. i reemphasize that the problem is not reading instructions as there are specific instructions for each sections.(for passports it says scan all pages both empty and stamped...)

Also, i want you to know that some ICT got nominations within a week on this forum. processing time is case specific... but on the average its not so bad, we are just impatient which is very normal...
First part is exactly what i am talking about...I knew people here now in DIP ,who were afraid @ the beginning because they missed couple of pages yet they were not just "not rejected "...no ....they were not even asked for it-and i do not think they will in such stage- ...yet last year people were rejected just for that ! so what a huge change in style although we all agree its their right to reject !

On the other hand ,again i didn't say ICT got slow processing I said they did not have a fast one all the way as well ,as u said its case specific ..so i was replying to this particular comment ...not commenting in general!

Hope I made myself clear on what was meant by such comments
 
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