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Quebec freezes group sponsorships carried out under the Refugee Abroad Program.

Here4help

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No, sorry, I didn't mean for decades. Just the last few years when Quebec imposed the caps. It's a bad situation. Sorry you are impacted.
The current approach to Quebec’s immigration laws raises significant concerns, particularly regarding individuals and families who have been living in the province for 6-8 years. If a person has already spent considerable time in Quebec—working, paying taxes, integrating into society, learning French, and contributing to the community—it seems counterproductive to deny / delay them permanent residency (PR). These individuals have demonstrated their commitment to Quebec’s values and economy and have built their lives here, with housing, jobs, and children attending school / Colleges.

While setting caps for newly arriving immigrants may be necessary to manage resources and integration capacity, applying these restrictions to individuals who are already well-established undermines the principle of fairness. Forcing such families to leave after years of integration not only disrupts their lives but also results in the loss of valuable, contributing members of society. A more logical and compassionate policy would prioritize granting PR to those who have already proven their ability to integrate and contribute to Quebec’s success.
 

canuck78

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The current approach to Quebec’s immigration laws raises significant concerns, particularly regarding individuals and families who have been living in the province for 6-8 years. If a person has already spent considerable time in Quebec—working, paying taxes, integrating into society, learning French, and contributing to the community—it seems counterproductive to deny / delay them permanent residency (PR). These individuals have demonstrated their commitment to Quebec’s values and economy and have built their lives here, with housing, jobs, and children attending school / Colleges.

While setting caps for newly arriving immigrants may be necessary to manage resources and integration capacity, applying these restrictions to individuals who are already well-established undermines the principle of fairness. Forcing such families to leave after years of integration not only disrupts their lives but also results in the loss of valuable, contributing members of society. A more logical and compassionate policy would prioritize granting PR to those who have already proven their ability to integrate and contribute to Quebec’s success.
The issue is that integration and contribution is tough to define. Immigration considerations benefit the country not the person except for very specific circumstances. Yes Quebec may also lose out on some good applicants. Quebec has little control when it comes to certain immigration therefore they are trying to control what they can it appears. Whether this will actually help them in the end is yet to be determined.
 

Here4help

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The issue is that integration and contribution is tough to define. Immigration considerations benefit the country not the person except for very specific circumstances. Yes Quebec may also lose out on some good applicants. Quebec has little control when it comes to certain immigration therefore they are trying to control what they can it appears. Whether this will actually help them in the end is yet to be determined.
Its very simple if you have problems don’t issue CSQ’s so people don’t make hope and move from here before its too late like us.
 

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The issue is that integration and contribution is tough to define. Immigration considerations benefit the country not the person except for very specific circumstances. Yes Quebec may also lose out on some good applicants. Quebec has little control when it comes to certain immigration therefore they are trying to control what they can it appears. Whether this will actually help them in the end is yet to be determined.
really good points I have never thought about this from this perspective someone getting his PR from Quebec is most likely to bring everyone he can to Quebec and yes Quebec doesn’t have ultimate power so it’s using what it has to limit immigration TEMPORARILY ( they can’t survive without immigration for long ) in any way even if it means pausing the elite and most productive immigrants ( economic immigrants ) it doesn’t necessarily make sense or benefit them in the long term but there are so many aspects to take into count it’s not easy to judge these decisions
 

canuck78

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really good points I have never thought about this from this perspective someone getting his PR from Quebec is most likely to bring everyone he can to Quebec and yes Quebec doesn’t have ultimate power so it’s using what it has to limit immigration TEMPORARILY ( they can’t survive without immigration for long ) in any way even if it means pausing the elite and most productive immigrants ( economic immigrants ) it doesn’t necessarily make sense or benefit them in the long term but there are so many aspects to take into count it’s not easy to judge these decisions
Yes they may miss out on some great immigrants but there are also many who also applied that were not that strong, have quite basic French, etc. Canada’s immigration policies have not made sense for quite a while.
 

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Its very simple if you have problems don’t issue CSQ’s so people don’t make hope and move from here before its too late like us.
It’s a country’s or province’s prerogative to change immigration polices at any point. A temporary resident is always at risk of not being able to remain until they have PR.
 

inaya.i

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Its really really hard relocating an entire family to another province after 5-6 years I mean if I was alone that would be another case, add to that I have finished all my process and got my CSQ so relocating or not my file would be treated in Quebec from what I know

Language isn’t a problem je parle français parfaitement et c’est le même cas pour tous les membres de ma famille

Thanks for the advice the thing that gets me so mad is that when Quebec applies a new law it takes effect immediately so it fcks up everyone without exception and without any warnings it’s just like “too bad deal with it”

Like why don’t they apply the quota on people that just applied why on those that have been here for years already ?
i relocated after i got my CSQ and living in quebec for almost 3 years. Nothing happened. They changed my city of destination on gcms notes and quebec is completely taken out of my application. My file has been moved to calgary secondary office and missisauga primary office. I just had to inform on the web form. But yes i understand it can be challenging for you with family. I am still in my early 20s and single with no kids.
 
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inaya.i

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Thank you for your suggestion. I have been considering relocating with my family for the past year; however, the uncertainty surrounding the process has been a significant concern. Both the Member of Parliament’s office and IRCC have advised that transferring my file from Quebec to the federal level is not guaranteed. In some cases, they have indicated that the process may need to start over from the beginning, which has made me hesitant to proceed.

can you please share your experience how did you do that and how long it took for you to get PR after relocating.
really? None of that happened in my case. I moved out this year in May. Wrote them a webform to change my city of destination from montreal to my current city and informed them i will not be returning to quebec. Next GSMS notes showed my office changed from montreal to calgary and missisauga remained the same. And city of destination also changed. I dont think my application has gone back to 0 now that i moved because that wont be fair for those who have to move for work and other commitments? I would look into this more if i were you.
 
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really? None of that happened in my case. I moved out this year in May. Wrote them a webform to change my city of destination from montreal to my current city and informed them i will not be returning to quebec. Next GSMS notes showed my office changed from montreal to calgary and missisauga remained the same. And city of destination also changed. I dont think my application has gone back to 0 now that i moved because that wont be fair for those who have to move for work and other commitments? I would look into this more if i were you.
Likely depends on when you move and where you are in the process. Also will depend if you still have any ties to Quebec or you’re not established in another city/province.