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Applying for Citizenship for dad -- Filing 3 years out of 5 tax question

ryanguy90

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Jan 25, 2017
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Hello Respected fellow members!

I was hoping to get some guidance on the following:

  1. My dad has become eligible to apply for the citizenship based on the number of days he spend in Canada (365 days before he became PR + 365*2 days after he became PR).
  2. He was granted PR on February 2022.
  3. He has filed taxes for 2022 and 2023.
  4. Prior to February 2022, he was in Canada with a supervisa and he stayed more than 6 months in 2019, 2020 and 2021.
  5. Currently, it shows 'Not received' for 2019, 2020, and 2021 tax filings in CRA.
  6. After reading the comprehensive guide on the process for applying citizenship on this forum, it is mentioned: "You must have filed at least 3 tax returns in the last 5 years from the date you sign your citizenship application. "
My question:
Does he have to file NIL returns in 2019, 2020 and 2021 since he was on a super visa and he did not have his SIN number then, to meet the 3 out of 5 year tax filing requirement?

Any input is highly appreciated!

Thank you.
 

forw.jane

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Apr 29, 2019
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Hello Respected fellow members!

I was hoping to get some guidance on the following:

  1. My dad has become eligible to apply for the citizenship based on the number of days he spend in Canada (365 days before he became PR + 365*2 days after he became PR).
  2. He was granted PR on February 2022.
  3. He has filed taxes for 2022 and 2023.
  4. Prior to February 2022, he was in Canada with a supervisa and he stayed more than 6 months in 2019, 2020 and 2021.
  5. Currently, it shows 'Not received' for 2019, 2020, and 2021 tax filings in CRA.
  6. After reading the comprehensive guide on the process for applying citizenship on this forum, it is mentioned: "You must have filed at least 3 tax returns in the last 5 years from the date you sign your citizenship application. "
My question:
Does he have to file NIL returns in 2019, 2020 and 2021 since he was on a super visa and he did not have his SIN number then, to meet the 3 out of 5 year tax filing requirement?

Any input is highly appreciated!

Thank you.
Is it not asking for 2024? That would make it 3 out of 5.

2019-2021 you cannot as there is no SIN.
 

dpenabill

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Apr 2, 2010
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  1. After reading the comprehensive guide on the process for applying citizenship on this forum, it is mentioned: "You must have filed at least 3 tax returns in the last 5 years from the date you sign your citizenship application. "
The quoted statement is NOT correct. It is a common misunderstanding far too often repeated in forums like this.

The correct statement is "you may need to file personal income taxes for at least 3 years within the 5-year period" to be eligible. That is "may" need to have filed, NOT "must" have filed.

In particular, to be eligible for citizenship the applicant must have COMPLIED with CRA tax filing obligations for at least three of the preceding five tax years.

If under the CRA rules the applicant was not required to file a tax return for a given year, that year counts as a year of compliance with the tax filing obligation whether or not a tax return was filed.

The instructions are actually quite clear in this regard. If the applicant has difficulty clearly understanding the instructions, better to get assistance from a trusted family member or friend (or from a professional if need be). Do NOT rely on what is posted in a forum like this. This applies to what I post as well . . . I try to help others better understand the rules, requirements, and instructions, but each individual applying for citizenship (or navigating some other aspect of Canadian immigration) needs to read and understand the IRCC instructions for themselves.

In particular, for the guide to applying for citizenship, see https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-0002-application-canadian-citizenship-under-subsection-5-1-adults-18-years-older.html

At the risk of being repetitive: Note that in step 1 in the guide, in outlining the eligibility requirements, it states that YOU "may need to file personal income taxes for at least 3 years within the 5-year period" . . . emphasis added to the word "may" as in you may need to file tax returns, as in it does not say "must." There is a link there to more detailed information that offers information about who and when a tax return must be filed (which is according to CRA rules, not immigration rules).

Then in step 4, in the instructions for completing the application, there are detailed instructions for answering Question 12 in the application, guidance in how to fill in the chart in that question.

Some individuals might possibly meet the tax-filing-compliance requirement even if they have never filed a Canadian tax return. However, this would be unusual. Moreover, ordinarily there are substantial benefits in filing a return even if not required to do that under CRA rules, so even though this could meet the tax-filing-compliance requirement it would likely trigger some concern and elevated scrutiny into the applicant.

In any event, what counts toward the three year minimum requirement to comply with tax filing obligations is any tax year for which the applicant truthfully reports:
  • Required to file [Yes] and Filed [Yes]
  • Required to file [No] and Filed [No]
  • Required to file [No] and Filed [Yes]

That is, ONLY a tax year in which the applicant reports "Yes," required to file, but "No," did not file, is a year that does not count toward meeting this requirement. That is, if for a particular tax year in the chart in the application, the year does not count toward meeting this requirement if the applicant reports:
  • Required to file [Yes] and Filed [No]
 

armoured

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Feb 1, 2015
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My dad has become eligible to apply for the citizenship based on the number of days he spend in Canada (365 days before he became PR + 365*2 days after he became PR).
If I'm not mistaken, days BEFORE he became a PR only count as half-days for purposes of citizenship. And if the rest of the info you posted is correct, your father will need an extra 183 days (minimum) before he will be eligible. (Always better to have a buffer of days above that minimum - and remember, only days PHYSICALLY in Canada count at all.)

Do NOT apply before he has the required number of days, or it will be rejected. And he must have that number of days on the day the application was signed, that is, they will not count any days after the application was submitted.

If my interpretation is correct on what you posted above, then he should wait and also file taxes for 2024 - problem above about taxes on the form solved.

Side note: I understand some say that including days before becoming a PR can result in slower processing. I do not know about that. If it's true, then possibly would make sense to wait until he has 1095 days in Canada after becoming a PR. Again, I don't know / have no opinion on that.
 

Seym

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Nov 6, 2017
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Side note: I understand some say that including days before becoming a PR can result in slower processing. I do not know about that. If it's true, then possibly would make sense to wait until he has 1095 days in Canada after becoming a PR. Again, I don't know / have no opinion on that.
Usually, pre-PR days are easily verified for people that had an actual status in Canada (students, workers...).
Different story for people who entered the country as a visitor, especially from visa-free countries. IRCC sometimes cannot document these days and may return the application. So yeah, if OP's dad is in that situation, better wait for a year instead of the 6 months still missing for his physical presence (unless the 365 days before PR already accounts for the 50% and the dad actually spent 2 years here before PR).
 
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