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Dependent child application 2024 - Is the IRCC screwed up or just me?

Pk1987

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Thanks a ton guys, this makes it very clear. Will take this way ahead. Last couple of clarifications:

1. I am assuming the form "Separation Declaration for Minors Travelling to Canada [IMM 5604]" is applicable only if one parent is moving and another is not moving. It is not needed for case where I am moving first and my wife is getting daughter later right?
2. Additional supporting documents on the portal also has a provision for 'Proof of physical presence in Canada'. Do I need to attach anything to prove that I am submitting this application inland?
3.I am applying for the PR once I am there and before my daughter arrives (on a visitor visa). If there is some issue in our application, they will not stop her from entering right? She has the visitor visa so her entry is sorted correct? I am asking if I should wait until she is in the country and then apply.

Thanks.
1. Your wife should be a co-signer or you both should travel together to skip this form. if that is not the case, you need to submit this form. Also, if it is inland application and you explain, kid is already with you both then also not needed.
2. though it is inland application, still you have to share the detials. (rental agreement, official docs, provate insurance statements, utility bills, etc)
3. if you apply before your daughter arrives then the application will be considered as outland application (point #1 is applicable to you, you have to share IMM 5604). there wont be any issues for landing with TRV in any case(IRCC and CBS takes each application as different).

the inland or outlander application is determined by the applicant's status in Canada, nothing to do with a sponsor.
 
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armoured

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the inland or outlander application is determined by the applicant's status in Canada, nothing to do with a sponsor.
As far as I'm aware, there is no formal "inland or outland" determination in sponsoring dependent children - they are all treated as 'outland' effectively.

There may be details where of course it is relevant where the child is physically and residing - but this is not a different type of application as it is for spousal sponsorship.
 
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viraj.manek1

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Hi @armoured, for forms IMM5406 and IMM5669, I am planning to skip adding details for my wife and me since the form asks Principal Applicant (daughter) to fill out this form for yourself and on behalf of any of your family members 18 years of age or older who are not already Canadian citizens or permanent residents.

Since my wife and I are already Permanent Residents of Canada, our details would not be needed in this form. I will also add this in the LoE. Does that seem correct?
Hi @armoured, does this seem valid?
 

armoured

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Hi @armoured, does this seem valid?
You are parsing incorrectly. It says "fill out this form on behalf of...". It means that the applicant (your daughter) should fill the form* on behalf of family members who are younger, etc.

Yes, neither of you need to fill out these forms, but for a different reason, neither of you are applicants (you're the parents, not her dependents). But look at the forms themselves: your information is OF COURSE required on the additional family info form, you just don't need to fill them out. But on the supplementary travel info, which is about a single individual, there is no place to put information about other individuals.

*If you're filling it out on behalf of your daughter because she's a minor, you fill it out as if it were her (from her perspective), and sign on her behalf (as guardian).